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01-09-2015 , 03:13 PM
How was vyk "trending" anything when you made that post?
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01-09-2015 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Timon, you are absolutely atrocious at werewolf

I was in the kitchen making a sandwhich and I squeezed one last post in last minute to answer a question when there was a runaway wagon

wolves self consciously don't make those type of posts b/c ww savants like you will interpret them just like you did here

get better at ww
Teach me, plz, solve the game as you said you will do.
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01-09-2015 , 03:15 PM
I'll be rereading the thread when I get home

I have SOME thoughts now but they're weird and I'd rather have a more educated opinion than start blabbing at work
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01-09-2015 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
How was vyk "trending" anything when you made that post?
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Originally Posted by El_Timon
Same reason as you, advocating a second straight lynch of a "liability" player.
That second quote was directed at Tom.
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01-09-2015 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Timon
Teach me, plz
you have it WANT IT more than the other guy
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01-09-2015 , 03:17 PM
We are all aware that Ronny not-so-subtly seer hunted me, dropped his vote on me and left right?
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01-09-2015 , 03:59 PM
lol

I have no idea how you and cory canngo at it so hard and them but like "i hope hes not a wolf yo"
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01-09-2015 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DoUEvenLift?
I want everyone to read the above posts

Tommy is a very smart wolf who immediately looks to his team and the player list and works out possible or impossible mislynches - in the last game I saw him wolf he complained openly there were a lot of high ~selfclearing villagers and basically lamenting the game was won for village from "rand"

Mets had a pretty limp opening considering he's a very CAPABLE selfclearing player but it's his ROCK HARD stubborness and vicious sort of refusal to compromise that gets him out of his wolf range and Tom sort of was circling the drain with him as a wolfread (and his early ~refusal to move from his range put him on the same radar for me)

It's TomTom's reaction to Mets finally losing his cool where he SLIPPED HARD. I think Mets was being counted on as a mislynch as Tom falters and sort of tries to recalibrate

I think him and nofear are EXTREMELY likely w/w. He moves off mets specifically to nofear, who has a low breadth of good posts and has some SORT of pressure. He votes him as a lone wagon off mets (I joined for my ~own reasons, mostly because I don't attribute nofear making LESS THAN THIN LOL READS as a villager ever) and he says CORY YOU SHOULD BE VOTING NOFEAR, realizes I am, and then pretty much exactly decides it's time to "look around"

Tom will make short little votes on his wolfbros but he's not a hardbus type of wolf

The post in red is EXACTLY the sort of "emotional bussing" Tom does; it's something he can take back later because it was him "losing his cool", but it's something that looks out of the ordinary w/w range-wise
The thing I didn't like about this analysis: Who the **** counts on Mets as a mislynch? Cory says Mets is very capable of self-clearing, which is true and well known, but then he sort of forgets about it in the rest of the analysis.

From my perspective, the sequence went like this:

1.) Mets isn't very villagery at all. Tom finds him wolfy.

2.) Mets becomes villagery. Tom softens his stance.

That's something a wolf could do, but it's also what a villager should do and wolves often struggle to get the second part right.
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01-09-2015 , 04:02 PM
Thread needs more Cory or I'm in danger of backsliding.
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01-09-2015 , 04:07 PM
Let me just quit my job
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01-09-2015 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DoUEvenLift?
Let me just quit my job
WW IS SRS BSNS YO
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01-09-2015 , 04:18 PM
I need to do some reading to acquire better/more/more confident wolf reads - I should have more time and energy tomorrow. In the mean time, here are some villager leans:

Mets is a villager a lot. I can't remember wolf Mets ever fooling me on real life day four of a game. And if you don't want to take my word for it, you can take everyone else's.

Timon's another consensus villager who I have as a villager, for roughly the same reasons as everyone else. Moving on.

WN is going beyond what he has done the last several times I've seen him wolf. There's one reason to be suspicious: day two has dawned and he doesn't seem to think I'm a wolf. But the way he's posting takes precedence.

I'm willing to patiently wait for Hoya to die. (I don't know why people had him as a villager lean on d1. The correct read was, "Dunno, beats me.")

Then I may have a peek or two from outside of the above group.
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01-09-2015 , 04:19 PM
That cheered me up a little. Add a couple of mechanically clear players to that list and it should win quite often.
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01-09-2015 , 04:20 PM
I think I can sort of read hoya. It may be false confidence based on him always randing villager in games I'm in, but nevertheless, I believe it. I also feel like I have read his wolf games and have some idea of what I think he does as a wolf. I suppose anything is possible, but then you add SHC and I feel pretty good about it.
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01-09-2015 , 04:30 PM
Ronny

Carl Spackler

Hidden Wolf

that would be the most straightforward solution
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01-09-2015 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Ronny

Carl Spackler

Hidden Wolf

that would be the most straightforward solution
I'm slowly going through the thread again and Carl's first few posts still read really wolfy to me. The whole vote well named -> half ass explain why -> say it was a joke vote progression was pretty bad.

Vyk, do you think wolf carl fake peeks his wolfbro on d1?

@Tappo,

Remember last year's slow game you railed where I was a wolf and in post game you came in to say that you wanted to sub in to quote a post I made where I explained my read on some villager, and the conclusion did not have much to do with the content of the post? that's how I feel about Carl's first few posts in the game.
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01-09-2015 , 04:55 PM
We are converging on the solve

I feel it
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01-09-2015 , 05:07 PM
Sippin on coke and rum
I'm like so what I'm drunk
It's the freakin weekend baby
I'm about to have me some fun
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01-09-2015 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
The thing I didn't like about this analysis: Who the **** counts on Mets as a mislynch? Cory says Mets is very capable of self-clearing, which is true and well known, but then he sort of forgets about it in the rest of the analysis.

From my perspective, the sequence went like this:

1.) Mets isn't very villagery at all. Tom finds him wolfy.

2.) Mets becomes villagery. Tom softens his stance.

That's something a wolf could do, but it's also what a villager should do and wolves often struggle to get the second part right.
Wolf Tom who was controlling the thread and the alliance can easily believe he can get me mislynched.

I'm not saying that's what happened but it definitely could
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01-09-2015 , 05:13 PM
Not to douse anyone's erections but a Ronny/Carl start solve doesn't really make sense to me. If Ronny is a wolf - and at this point this is just probable, I hope Tom picked up on my "ARCBELL" signal as to one of the MAJOR reasons I think he is - I highly doubt Carl defends him like that, specifically near EOD1. We are talking the Carl Spackler who bussed a strong / mostly hidden wolfbro in Mucks last game; not to say Carl would bus HARD again, but considering Ronny would be 100% dead weight to a wolf team does a wolfbro go out of his way to defend him, especially one who typically finds +EV situations to bus a wolfbro?

It almost seems too simple, and I know I was all about Level 1 werewolf but it looks like I'm not all about it again.

Of course I say this all with a ~medium retention of the thread so far so maybe I'll see something I don't see on reread. There are a lot of people I feel good about and I haven't had any beef with the PoE as it's going today but the major bad news of that Annie flips is that we have PROBABLY one wolf that's doing very well. I still have Tomfoil but I don't want to start a fight with him today and I don't disagree with where he's going so he's back on my "no-table" list.

Will start rereading and keep a tap open if anyone wants to shoot the ****. I'm scraping most of my ideas and starting over for the DEEP WOLF paranoia and because I want to see if a fresh take leads me to similar conclusions.
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01-09-2015 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Wolf Tom who was controlling the thread and the alliance can easily believe he can get me mislynched.

I'm not saying that's what happened but it definitely could
I think I've watched you play one game recently and it was a turbo where you were seer and got mislynched by gambit

I feel like you're the biggest mixed bag in ww
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01-09-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
The thing I didn't like about this analysis: Who the **** counts on Mets as a mislynch? Cory says Mets is very capable of self-clearing, which is true and well known, but then he sort of forgets about it in the rest of the analysis.

From my perspective, the sequence went like this:

1.) Mets isn't very villagery at all. Tom finds him wolfy.

2.) Mets becomes villagery. Tom softens his stance.

That's something a wolf could do, but it's also what a villager should do and wolves often struggle to get the second part right.
Mets can self-clear but he doesn't always do it and sometimes the thread will completely turn on him. I've seen him play once in the past like year, and Tom has had no problem lynching claimed doctors / etc, so if you think anything would be "out of bounds" to him you don't really know him. Everyone is a mislynch until they screech so far out of their villager range it's impossible, and I don't see 300-post UAW in this game anywhere.

The caveat at the end is probably something I should have kept in mind but OH WELL
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01-09-2015 , 05:19 PM
I'd have voted Ronny but remember it's 6 TO MAJ today and I think he's already pretty close

This is my first serious free time of the week so I will be FURIOUS if you do not let me use it
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01-09-2015 , 05:20 PM
So I got mislynched once in a turbo and now I'm a mixed bag? Why don't you look at vanilla game mislynch stats in the database

Secondly, are you trying to agree or disagree with my post?

I is confused
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01-09-2015 , 05:20 PM
Okay he's at 3 so he's not exactly on the EDGE but this just reaffirms how necessary it is for me to seriously read the thread
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