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01-08-2015 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Timon
There's no way he can think he has a chance to lynch you today, you're in most people's villagers lists.
You don't really understand the dynamic between us... there's a long and arduous history there. But A) he should know better than to pull this kind of stunt as a villager and B) I can't recall a time he's ever done this on D1; his policy is usually [and was earlier this game]; "you can't catch Tom D1 so peek him / let him work himself into a corner on D3", I don't see why that would have suddenly changed drastically just to push me now.

There's still a chance he is a villager, and I'm hoping he's reading these posts with an open mind if so, but this behavior definitely fits better if he's a wolf and wouldn't doesn't openly contradict his existing and established thought process regarding me, how to handle me in early games, and our history together.

I also think there's small things I've done which he should recognize I wouldn't / shouldn't do as a wolf, like trying to get him and Hoya to stop arguing yesterday or the way I've not had anyone I've needed to hard defend like I would if I were a wolf -- which, an aside, is how I'm feeling more and more is how he used his peek of Carl. You can just say "oh I didn't die; guess I was wrong about Carl" and have a free D1 of hard defending a wolfbro without needing real in-thread justification.

Monstr what do you make of this? I feel like you're the most qualified arbiter for this situation.

And Hoya: you've let me down again.

I'm going #FullVix here and saying that if the wolves want to out themselves to get me lynched today with the two bonus votes on me, they should grab their balls and go for it.
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01-08-2015 , 08:39 PM
I think Cory is probably getting lynched today...
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01-08-2015 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Timon
If you/cory are w/w and you told Cory that EOD was less than an hour away and that he's free to post again then this would be hilarious.
Thats what I feel.
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01-08-2015 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Joke, as in not serious. Why would I start a serious wagon like this out of no where? Either as wolf or villa it doesnt make much sense.

Stop talking about me, its a waste of time.

Actually Ill vote Doyoueven
Why are you doing this?
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01-08-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Btw, for clarification since its apparently an issue. My initial question, why people open by saying they randed villa again for the 10th time was full serious. But tbh I dont even understand why anyone would say he is villa. As ofc wolves souldnt say they are wolves (as shouldnt villas, but someone did this game). This is all very wierd to me tbh, but I know its standard around here.

The resulting vote was a joke.
As a wolf Ronny either ignores the issue or makes some excuse about misreading the post. Here he doubles down and piles on more nonsense.

As far as a joke, he did mention that this was a poker forum and we shouldn't be engaging in the gambler's fallacy so maybe it was a joke on that level.
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01-08-2015 , 08:43 PM
ronny

I feel like we've moved into goody wolf territory
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01-08-2015 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JC Denton
You don't really understand the dynamic between us... there's a long and arduous history there. But A) he should know better than to pull this kind of stunt as a villager and B) I can't recall a time he's ever done this on D1; his policy is usually [and was earlier this game]; "you can't catch Tom D1 so peek him / let him work himself into a corner on D3", I don't see why that would have suddenly changed drastically just to push me now.

There's still a chance he is a villager, and I'm hoping he's reading these posts with an open mind if so, but this behavior definitely fits better if he's a wolf and wouldn't doesn't openly contradict his existing and established thought process regarding me, how to handle me in early games, and our history together.

I also think there's small things I've done which he should recognize I wouldn't / shouldn't do as a wolf, like trying to get him and Hoya to stop arguing yesterday or the way I've not had anyone I've needed to hard defend like I would if I were a wolf -- which, an aside, is how I'm feeling more and more is how he used his peek of Carl. You can just say "oh I didn't die; guess I was wrong about Carl" and have a free D1 of hard defending a wolfbro without needing real in-thread justification.

Monstr what do you make of this? I feel like you're the most qualified arbiter for this situation.

And Hoya: you've let me down again.

I'm going #FullVix here and saying that if the wolves want to out themselves to get me lynched today with the two bonus votes on me, they should grab their balls and go for it.
My gut reaction was that the megapost was villagery, and it made me tinfoil on you slightly which is why I brought myself back to the "TTT is the clean sweep wolf" post because I really believe that to be your default for wolf games. Then you had your giant megapost and my initial gut reaction was that it was also villagery and I lost my grasp of the game.

As I said before, I'm decently sure wolf cory snags himself 3 votes like that ~NEVER. I mean, I know it's pretty thin and probably kinda silly but I really think that as a wolf he'd put the effort in to pay more attention to that out of respect for his team more than anything, because as a villager it's absurdly easy to be oblivious, as noted by MANY THINGS that ALL VILLAGERS say and do QUITE OFTEN

I don't think I want to lynch you today, and I don't know if I want to reassess your alignment at this point either, and I still feel comfortable saying most of the wolves are in that one list I posted earlier, but Cory's post gave me just enough doubt to throw my perception of the game out of whack. If anything it pretty much just prompts me to not want to lynch you, but at the same time take everyone you're calling a lock villager with a grain of salt, at least for today.
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01-08-2015 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Thats what I feel.
This cannot be a serious post
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01-08-2015 , 08:44 PM
ronny

make sure to MAJ him so he doesn't get that clown cory lynched b/c he brain farted

any other votes on cory will now be WOLF CLAIMS
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01-08-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Why are you doing this?
Im literally clueless, I cant come up with any good idea/scenario. Its 1:43am and I have to wake up in 5 hours.

I got a wolfy vibe every now and then while reading him and then I come back and see the he has reached his limit already, then he comes back in to post a big one. I see that, but why spew the next 2. Makes no ****ing sense. I just dont buy it.
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01-08-2015 , 08:46 PM
noob wolf 101

act clueless and ask a lot of questions

he needs to be DISPOSED OF
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01-08-2015 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Im literally clueless, I cant come up with any good idea/scenario. Its 1:43am and I have to wake up in 5 hours.

I got a wolfy vibe every now and then while reading him and then I come back and see the he has reached his limit already, then he comes back in to post a big one. I see that, but why spew the next 2. Makes no ****ing sense. I just dont buy it.
I'm going to refer you back to the point that it is absurdly easy to be oblivious as a villager, and also Cory generally posts in duplicate or triplicate most times he posts, so that's not sound logic as far as Cory being a wolf is concerned.
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01-08-2015 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl_Spackler
As a wolf Ronny either ignores the issue or makes some excuse about misreading the post. Here he doubles down and piles on more nonsense.

As far as a joke, he did mention that this was a poker forum and we shouldn't be engaging in the gambler's fallacy so maybe it was a joke on that level.
Offc it was... he said he was villa 10 times in a row... the chance of getting 11 times villa in a row are slim.
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01-08-2015 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Offc it was... he said he was villa 10 times in a row... the chance of getting 11 times villa in a row are slim.
I made absolutely no correlation to the fact that I randed villager the 10 games before this one and the fact that I randed villager in this game

those are factual, independent statements and you are fabricating a baseless conclusion out of thin air to justify your curiously inept justification for lynching a wolf
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01-08-2015 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by monstrman
I'm going to refer you back to the point that it is absurdly easy to be oblivious as a villager, and also Cory generally posts in duplicate or triplicate most times he posts, so that's not sound logic as far as Cory being a wolf is concerned.
I dont know that, but either he has a masterplan for why he did 3 posts that I dont see, or he just doesnt care that its stoopid.

Anyhow, instead of voting me, which is also stupid. You should rather concentrate on the I am clueless part and tell me who you think I should vote.
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01-08-2015 , 08:53 PM
Monstr, do you generally agree that Cory, as a villager, in this spot, with heavy suspicions of me, knowing that I'm a villager in most people's eyes: would want to see how I act at EOD and whose wagons I try to stall instead of putting me on the defensive right before the most spew-potential period? He's basically shooting himself in the foot, and I've never seen him do that. He shouldn't be this confident in me being a wolf anyway, but if he was, he'd play it cooler.

Despite what I said before, he SHOULD know he isn't getting me lynched today. So why go for it right now? At EOD1? It's not adding to up to me.

Ronny/Carl/Cory team is a possibility. Ronny and Carl are kind of struggling ATM, the Cory peeking Carl thing feels wrong too.

Carl,

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Originally Posted by Carl_Spackler
As a wolf Ronny either ignores the issue or makes some excuse about misreading the post. Here he doubles down and piles on more nonsense.

As far as a joke, he did mention that this was a poker forum and we shouldn't be engaging in the gambler's fallacy so maybe it was a joke on that level.
You sound like the authority on Ronny's wolf game here, where's this confidence coming from? Because I read this as a wolf who knows another wolf's wolftell because he's doing it right now. I'd like a very snappy response to this.
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01-08-2015 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
I dont know that, but either he has a masterplan for why he did 3 posts that I dont see, or he just doesnt care that its stoopid.

Anyhow, instead of voting me, which is also stupid. You should rather concentrate on the I am clueless part and tell me who you think I should vote.
I think anarchist is a solid vote. And it's neither of those. Like I said, Cory just has a habit of posting multiple times and was probably even oblivious to the people telling him to stop posting.
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01-08-2015 , 08:55 PM
I also wouldnt be surprised if Cory and Tom were both wolves.
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01-08-2015 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JC Denton
Monstr, do you generally agree that Cory, as a villager, in this spot, with heavy suspicions of me, knowing that I'm a villager in most people's eyes: would want to see how I act at EOD and whose wagons I try to stall instead of putting me on the defensive right before the most spew-potential period? He's basically shooting himself in the foot, and I've never seen him do that. He shouldn't be this confident in me being a wolf anyway, but if he was, he'd play it cooler.

Despite what I said before, he SHOULD know he isn't getting me lynched today. So why go for it right now? At EOD1? It's not adding to up to me.

Ronny/Carl/Cory team is a possibility. Ronny and Carl are kind of struggling ATM, the Cory peeking Carl thing feels wrong too.

Carl,



You sound like the authority on Ronny's wolf game here, where's this confidence coming from? Because I read this as a wolf who knows another wolf's wolftell because he's doing it right now. I'd like a very snappy response to this.
I'm not speaking about Ronny in particular, rather how I would expect wolves in general to react
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01-08-2015 , 08:55 PM
LOL this d1. So now we have Tom and Cory with at least three votes, Ronny still with like four, and Annie with three.

Nicely done, guys. LAY OFF THE COKE!
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01-08-2015 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
I also wouldnt be surprised if Cory and Tom were both wolves.
I'm not lynching this guy.
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01-08-2015 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Timon
I'm not lynching this guy.
THATS THE THINNEST RATIONALE I'VE EVER SEEN

YOU MAKE HOYA LOOK LIKE A WW SAVANT
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01-08-2015 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JC Denton
Monstr, do you generally agree that Cory, as a villager, in this spot, with heavy suspicions of me, knowing that I'm a villager in most people's eyes: would want to see how I act at EOD and whose wagons I try to stall instead of putting me on the defensive right before the most spew-potential period? He's basically shooting himself in the foot, and I've never seen him do that. He shouldn't be this confident in me being a wolf anyway, but if he was, he'd play it cooler.

Despite what I said before, he SHOULD know he isn't getting me lynched today. So why go for it right now? At EOD1? It's not adding to up to me.

Ronny/Carl/Cory team is a possibility. Ronny and Carl are kind of struggling ATM, the Cory peeking Carl thing feels wrong too.

Carl,



You sound like the authority on Ronny's wolf game here, where's this confidence coming from? Because I read this as a wolf who knows another wolf's wolftell because he's doing it right now. I'd like a very snappy response to this.
I feel like you're onto something here with the fact that he would be playing it cooler but I think at this point we have to take into account that regardless of his alignment Cory pretty much hasn't been playing it cool all game, so I'm not sure we can attribute this game to the way he's played in previous games because it's kind of apparent that he's off his game.

I think it's still entirely plausible if not likely that he is in fact a villager, especially because of the obliviousness. Seriously, I really DO NOT THINK wolf cory is SO OBLIVIOUS that he shoots himself in the foot like that. I really, really don't. I think wolf cory patiently waits until 1 hour before EoD because he is not truly mad, he is not truly anxious, he is not truly excited and he doesn't truly believe you are a wolf, so he doesn't have any incentive to make that post without taking the extra time to check and see if he's actually posting within the alloted time necessary to not add votes to himself.

I ALSO am relatively confident that his progression on me is genuine, because while he's done similar progressions on me in previous games I really do FEEL like he REALLY FELT like I was a wolf, especially when you consider that usually when wolfing against me he takes the line of "I can't clear you but I won't condemn you" whereas here he more went with a line of "I can't clear you, and I have this feeling in the pit of my stomach that says you're a wolf." I mean, it doesn't SEEM like it's very different but in my mind it's pretty much miles apart.

Mostly the oblivious thing though I really do mean that.

However, I will agree that IF Cory is a wolf here I think he peeks his wolfbro Carl a relatively high % of the time.
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01-08-2015 , 09:00 PM
LOL vyk, welcome back.
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01-08-2015 , 09:00 PM
Votes from post 4 to post 1149
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5 Ronny Mahoni JC Denton (127), CPHoya (120), metsandfinsfan (107), well named (103), vyk07 (124)
2 DoUEvenLift? Anarchist (30), tappokone (54)
2 Carl_Spackler Nofear3838 (29), El_Timon (103)
2 Anarchist monstrman (112), Carl_Spackler (54)
1 JC Denton DoUEvenLift? (128)
1 Error Ronny Mahoni (26)
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