Sup.. sorry I wasn't here all night.. got caught up in The Wire season 1 and watched basically the whole thing.

I have a tourney tomorrow at 2 pst.. but will try to wake up at noon (7 hours from now) to do some work on the game.

Will at least get a good vote in before I go and then devote some time after I win the tourney.

Thank goodness ur back chim!

You prob don't know yet then that BPM was NK'ed and was only vanilla.

That leaves only you with this RT thing and we have been waiting forever for you to flesh this out...

you and i were wolves in AP. I was a wolf in OR's game and you weren't.

I'm a little shocked that there aren't more epi votes. He made a vote that he never makes. He's on record as saying that that vote is anti-village. His only excuse is that it (for unspecified reasons) seemed like a good spot for it. What more do you people want?

I want to wait because epi has to stay alive.

oh, thanks for reminding me. im out for a couple of hours, but bobman is a wolf because [self-centred but accurate logic] he knows me better than to seriously think id make the "mistake" he claims i did as a wolf myself [/self centred but accurate logic]

its not a read im completely ready to get blinders on yet, just on the offchance we're v/v and the wolves will happily let us go at it. but its a pretty strong impression.

Im willing to believe that and lean more towards v/v

oh and for the record I don't hold your actions as a "mistake" either.

Instead I hold them as an "on purpose"

I don't have much to say but I hate the idea of discussing who Zeturd (or Neo, if he is the vig now) should shoot. There's an excellent chance the wolves have a prostitute who will block him if he goes for a wolf and let him fire away otherwise.

I guess I still like lynching

Nez

Excellent point RT. I think Dustin was saying the same thing

RT did you know that Nez denied you were the third neutral?

well it is like village 101 but somehow people always want to discuss seer strat, vig strat and god knows what else

that would make me more likely to be the 3rd neutral imo because Nez is a liar who is misleading the village (I'm still not the 3rd neutral btw).

I'd like to hear a lot from Ariesram today.

I used to always think tar was wolfy but I think Dustin's point that tar only responds to deny Dustin's calling him a wolf is good, wouldn't mind seeing a tar wagon either.

Thebram has made a lot of sense, I don't like lynching him

Thebram is so funny in that he missed on 4 separate times (identifying evil as good and vice versa); never right once.

Of course this is the sign of a village right?

This is unhelpfully cryptic.

Two things:

1. You said that my reasoning re: you was accurate earlier, and you said that i was a wolf yesterday, so that's obviously not your reason for thinking that I'm a wolf.

2. What reason do I have for believing that you make that mistake more often as a villager than as a wolf? I don't remember seeing you support a last-minute wagon in a long game, possibly ever. In fact, I don't remember you ever missing a spot to sermonize about it. So I really doubt that you forgot that last-minute wagons are bad. I also have a lot of trouble crediting unspecified good reasons for making that vote.

However, it makes a great deal of sense that you're a wolf and just thought you could get away with it, as indeed you are.

I think the above is awfully anti-village and dangerous.

It wasn't a wagon; it was a fling -- I think Aaard is village but I can see that him being utr and throwing out a vote with no explanation was suspicious.

All they did was check it out -- I think that makes sense.

Look, if you want to say "I might be the seer and if so I peeked epi, so I'm not gonna vote him," that's fine. But don't act like there's actually a reason for a villager without any special knowledge not to suspect him. And especially don't say it's wolfy to do so, cause it's not.

The village vote here is with aries + ???

Epi needs to wait.

WHY ARE YOU SO HOT ON EPI RIGHT NOW? <--- This isn't village.

Let me get this straight. The provillage votes are Aries and a player to be named later. Everyone needs to be voting Aries and a player to be named later. Epi has to wait, because we already have our quota of two solid wagons: Aries and a player to be named later.

I guess I missed that, my bad. Player to be named later.

NO ??? is pewrsonal preference. I named mine already. who are yours?

This sudden epi disease is making me sick. Were not going to let you lynch him in the day.

Look Ill make you a deal. Epi voted for aries, remember? So all this "bad wagon stuff" doesn't hold any water with me but look, let's do the village thing and wagon up aries and clarify things.

Then we can see clearly what we are dealing with OK?

I am sorry for my absence. I was occupied with other stuff yesterday morning (which will not be a distraction going forward), and I was taking the CPA yesterday afternoon. Very crappy of me to not jump in here and note that.

Regarding my 64 vote, the main wagons when I read the thread were 64 and mithras. I did not see anything in mith's limited postings that struck me as funny. I read 64's post as saying it would be ok to not lynch people who we know are not on our side. Voting an unknown over a known enemy is anti-village. That is why I voted 64.

I am reading up yesterday now.