How was Dustin so careless to set you up, and zomghax, as well, should he die? which he did.

Isnt he a good player?

ya this is my 1st

no
it's not established
some may agree with it, but others don't
i don't

this is the reasoning i agree with
bsball brought up the consistency on how it was constantly referred to + felix's reasoning saying why would dustin reveal his peek so late into eod that makes me question "felix being a peeked wolf"


no, what i think makes you a wolf is how you took a completely ordinary event (bsball voting zomg) and twist it to make it look wolfy
if you lean villa on felix, then between zomg and felix, zomg is the better vote
so i don't understand why you would have objections, even deliberately say it was evil for her to vote zomg

also, you posted earlier saying we should honestly assess who dustin peeked before thinking about lynching one of his "assumed peeks"
this isn't consistent to what you said to bsball because:
a) you would've pointed out in one breath that it was bad to vote either of the two
b) you say it's wolfy to vote for zomg over felix, insinuating felix is the better choice

that doesn't even seem like reassessing anything

zomg

I already made a post where I outlined why I thought zomg is the likelier wolf. It doesn't even matter at this point, though, because lynching anyone outside the pool of {felix, zomghax} today is pretty dumb

Ok you have legit reasons in your mind

I'm gonna go ahead and say: All I did is consistent with how I feel about the zomg/felix issue. I didnt like bsball voting without posting much argument. And there is more from bsball in a previous post. I dont feel like justifying myself to you right now.

I am villa, you do what you feel like doing. I won't get in the way of your fun.

I dont think you are a clueless newbie after that long post anymore, you have your points there, the way you handled it is awful imo, but not nearly as bad as I thought.

I am multitasking, and must have missed that. I appreciate you took the time to clear it up for me, thanks.

I don't know.

Dont know to the careless part right ?

Yeah but it falls under "appeal to emotion", its appeal to ego more specifically

The complete works of ZomgHax.

format is (post number) (who he quoted): what he said.
--- day 1 ---
83 RF(why would villa need villa points): Talking to me?
85 RF: cool
248 Digger: River villa. River - Andy v/v
249 RF: That was TMNT
250 avatars missing
256 digger: RF villa = RF chimp!
258 manwolfchimp
407 Atak(zomg more content): always fluff! can't post in school
413 soah(who a wolf?): maybe u a wolf
431 wahoo: RF bad vote
445 rf: Why I defended rf to wahoo
501 soah(votes zomg): lol? u a wolf
503 votes soah
528 RF: aao has a plan
538 aao 3 villas: river, andy, coordi
542 no lists! lists is seer hunting
549 Mac: OK, it is seer cover
597 soah: yeah, voting you for real
623 soah: get off me, I'm villa
646 felix: no, coordi villa. coordi good post about bsball wolf
649 aao: rf and zomg both bad wagons
697 zhaorx: votes Z. You a wolf for voting me when I agree with you
728 RF(zomg would bus Z here): Wat?
742 RF: Z was getting heat?

day 1 villa leans: RF, Andy, Coordi
day 1 wolf leans: soah, Zhaorx

--- day 2 ---
902 aao your paragraphs contradict
904 bitchi, digger is digger
1083 back from class. votes Z
1084 bsball: esse is villa
1088 soah: wait for esse to defend self
1091 herbie: esse's afk dude
1093 bsball: esse UTR but not wolfy
1171 aao: you villa, why you think I'm wolf

day 2 villa leans: esse, aao
day 2 wolf leans: Zhaorx

--- day 3 ---
1354 bsball: Why'd Dustin leave me if I was peeked?
1364 RF: 10 d1 peeks! I'm villa.
1367 don't want to vote Felix. Can't trust peeks
1373 felix: defending you because peeks are unknown

Look felix, you are gonna get lynched soon, if you admit you are a wolf it's gonna make the rest of the day pretty much worthless in regards to discussion, which would be good for wolfies and a meaningful last contribution to your team.

If you say you are a villa we're gonna have to consider all angles and be careful, don't make us go to these lengths for no good reason.

So let me ask you, heart to heart:

Are you a wolf?
(no shame in it, it's the rand's fault)

as far as i can tell, no

zomg villa points

That's supposed to say "I think it would suggest". But I think River, Andy, Coordi are all villagers. So the slip matches what a wolf would want.

Time will tell. I don't think it should be forgotten.

i didnt mean villa points for zomghax, i meant zomg villa points for bitchi

whats scary is his play reminds me of sealab, where hes posting a lot and it looks like hes working hard, but then you realize hes repeating himself endlessly and just fluffing up material everyone already knows. he was wolf that game

can you elaborate?

I wolfed with him in sealab. I remember it well.

My notes on digger's first 2 days:

--- day 1 ---
223 andy villa lean
236 slight wolf bsball
243 hedges, andy villa lean
244 bsball: intervening andy/rf. slight wolf lean, open mind
245 rf slight villa lean (RF attacking McAvoy)
251 chimps are good
254 atak: no lynch?
262 zomg: yes RF chimpy
266 Other: welcome to the game
270 atak's herbie theory good, but not enough for lynch. Herbie/dustin friends?
290 herbie: pics -> wolf
306 atak: mass equivocation. Still calls andy villa, rf villa but less, bsball tiny wolf
341 more RF equivocation
344 spoilers bad
349 atak: danny villa tone
358 no Soah opinion
369 wahoo: agree holdme good vote
394 small villa lean atak
403 soah needs a chimp villa game
419 Soah is funny. This post is funny.
430 bsball -> neutral. "norikey"??
432 andy: andy likely villa (blue).
436 no read on wahoo
442 RF: thoughts on herbie?
452 bsball: you attract suspicion. lean villa bsball
458 Andy: hate being wolf. post more. JG has caught me.
468 bsball: ok, you cool. I could be wrong.
479 andy: memories merge.
497 McAvoy: my wolf history
512 bsball: Luckay could lynch soah
518 Soah likely nk alot anyway n1
527 aao: 3 villas Andy Atak Coordi
567 andy(lol at atak read): activities villa. You strongest andy! Who to lynch?
579 McAvoy, votes: Herbie, Luckbox, Lucky Devil, Holdme
587 assuming McAvoy = villa is reasonable. (wat?)
590 McAvoy: Agree Lucky Devil likely wolf.
663 atakdog: I can read Mac villa. Andy villa too.
674 soah(who addressed dustin): I have played 3-4 with coordi. coordi < rand() as wolf
679 entering trance
680 spelling bad
685 McAvoy: I also said you can read me. Maybe lying?
702 McAvoy: I have 5 villas too.
706 Andy: Re Danny. Tone villa, style wolf.
716 Andy: WW funny haha
719 esse: villa lean for entrance
742 zhaorx: Zhaorx orange alert
749 zhaorax, zomg vote each other, wat?
768 Incantation 1, villa lean list Andy
780 Incantation 2, jibberish about RF
801 not voting Zhaorx today
805 Incantation 3, herbie likely wolf
814 Incantation 4, Soah + Atak wolf -> wolves lose
822 voting to save Zhaorx
826 not saying danny wolf, but zhaorx bad lynch
833 likely wolves Z M E (wat?)
837 RF on villa lean list
846 RF: lucky not voting is self-preservation?
853 votes wahoo
860 wolf snipe in progress
864 unvote
867 danny
--- day 2 ---
1009 reads coming
1012 andy: explains 1/2 way rule
1013 bitchi: welcome to the game
1015 bitchi: kidding w/soah.
1018 soah: no idea why Mac said "wolf snipe". Sniping a wolf was possible.
1019 bitchi: agree wordy is wolfy. gotta be me though
1020 (bitchi) Why change vote? impulsive. didn't like wahoo/z.
1021 fmp
1022 (aao graph) villas make graphs. They don't work.
1024 villa lean aao
1026 why atak killed?
1028 lists are cool
1029 2nd opinion nk?
1032 LD reappearance weird.
1048 villa: andy, aao, mac. Less so: coordi, RF. Vote Lucky Devil. Peace out.

in the context i read it, she was implying that soah was appealing to emotions, which is like one of my favorite wolf tells. its also something that wolves dont really notice and as a villager it stands out to me.

always messin up

I really didn't like digger's d2. The sharp drop off in posts is one think. I don't think it's villa digger.

if digger is a wolf we're screwed chips

Of course I'm not a wolf. (And of course I say that as any role.)

If I were wolf I probably would have done something crazy like claim angel by now.

The problem is, you have to lynch me anyways. You also have to lynch ZomgHax as well. Let's say you lynch me first, when I come up villa, does it make ZomgHax less likely to have been peeked? I don't think it affects that probability at all - I think me and ZomgHax are two independent lynches that have to happen - and if we both come up villa, well, Dustin sucks at seering.

I think ZomgHax should go first, if only because (any modesty aside) I'm a more valuable villager than him. Maybe the village will decide to disagree with me if ZomgHax comes up villa and discount Dustin's 'peek' of me (IMO that would be incorrect though).

We've already established that both me and ZomgHax are dead men walking. We'll both be lynched at some point. Given that fact - THE DISCUSSION IS OVER about me and ZomgHax. There's zero additional utility to be gained from talking it over more. We should instead work based on the following assumption, IMO: assume me and ZomgHax were unlynchable for some reason - who would we lynch in that case?

he was obviously being sarcastic

Fair enough Felix, fair enough.