I'm soo sorry about last week. Wednesday I had an excuse for forgetting (concentrating on the numbness in my fae from the dentist), Friday I did not. WW for busy people semed like a good schedule for me but it doesn't work if you forget about it.

today it obviously has to be wdcbooks but I won't vote now. pasta cooking, back soon.

this

well ...

intention to vote Jdalla later

I know it could be an honest error, but it's just too suspicious. will look at the other soah votes also

so... this is interesting.

First off, I want to apologize for my dumbness on the previous day... I for some reason thought eod was at 11 and not 10, as can be seen in my late post. I'm on PT time and somehow got it mixed up.

That being said, I was a bit surprised that Soah was a villager, as I had higher expectations for his villager game. I guess he was busy.


Now on to the big news: I know who all the wolves are. Norseman, Books and VR are the wolf team, and I hereby declare myself the winner of this game.

That being said, this game is going to come down to VR trying to convince senore, rchandra and sopo that I am in fact, the last wolf. I think we can all agree norse is as good as an outted wolf at this juncture - by process of elimination. (barring some crazy scenerio were the wolves FPS killed on n2, in which case gg wp sirs.)

I'm not sure I will really be able to blame someone for voting me in f3, considering the wolves leveled with the n1 kill in an attempt to clear VR (who also must be a wolf here by process of elimination - from my perspective.) All I can do is try to answer anyone's questions and act villagery in hopes that one of you makes the right call at f3.


*** note to rchandra, Senore and Sopo ***

This is likely one of the rare times when being dishonest as a villager is important. Considering the unusual situation we are in, the wolves are going to try and leave the one of you alive that is most likely to vote for me over VR at f3. So you should consider being dishonest about which of us you think is the wolf, as to make the NKs harder on them. Note that even if I'm lying and writing this as a wolf, the same logic would apply as I would be trying to leave alive the one that will vote VR.

Hope that makes sense, feel free to ask me any questions.

****


also, cue VR's "so JDalla is a wolf."

damn, wish you hadn't posted this right before my post. Oh well, just keep in mind what I'm saying if you find yourself at f3 with me and VR.

Also, I really don't gain much as a wolf making that ******ed play. Books is already an outted wolf, and "gambling" so it goes to a flip just to maybe keep him alive an extra day is pretty silly. At the time I was playing poker and refreshing the thread, under the misconception that I had another hour. Think about it - it really would be an elaborate level just to accomplish flipping, when the wolf on the block was already outted. Have you ever seen a wolf do something that dumb?

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if you are a villager and we lose, it is squarely our fault (yours and mine).

not exactly true. The fact that soah died last night does suck, but it doesn't actually change much except that the wolves can pile on and potentially end the game suddenly. If we had lynched books yesterday, I would still want to lynch soah today or tomorrow and we'd be in the same situation at f3.

well, now that's it's been mentioned it won't work, I had been hoping that iff you were a villager the wovles would keep me alive until f3 since I tend to blinders.

heh. well... the leveling game is ever present. The fact that it's being talked about also ensures the wolves won't have an easy decision as to who to leave alive.

From a game theory standpoint, I'm the more likely wolf because of the n1 kill. So I have a bit of an uphill battle, but hopefully by posting a bunch I can go the distance on tone and this game will go down as another reason why not to FPS the n1 kill. Probably wishful thinking though.

why does the n2 kill mean norseman1066 is wolf (I don't actually disagree with the conclusion, but can't see how you get it from there - soah and norseman both gave me other reasons)? I'd viewed Forsythio's possible "peeks" as Jdalla village and McAvoy (Senor Cardgage) villager.

As much as I would like to say he did, Fors clearly did not leave a fakepeek of me. He left Sopo = village on d1, and reaffirmed it on d2. His d2 peek was Senor/McAvoy = village, not me.

Norse is a wolf by process of elimination. Since you are seer cleared, and sopo/Senore are seer hunt cleared, that only leaves me, books, VR and norse for the 3 wolves. This is how I'm able to be very confidant I know the wolf team.

It did just occur to me that from your perspective VR and I could be the wolves, which I suppose makes this more difficult. But norse has been wolfy all game so I'm much more concerned about VR than him.

I really don't have much time to post/reread today. Luckily the vote is obvious, but I'd like to get to interact a little more.

rchandra, please give your opinions on JDalla/me/VR/norseman/sopo, if there's anybody you particularly suspect or don't suspect. Since you're the only live peeked villager, leveling concerns probably don't matter since you'll likely die tonight, and if not tonight, then the next.

Senor - you already have tough decisions on your horizon, not clearing sopo is going to make your life impossible. If sopo is magically a wolf here despite the n2 kill, it's gg wolves.

it's probably norseman1066, and I'm still feeling JDalla over VoraciousReader. need to read soporific more.

you're probably a villager, check your pm to make sure.

oh here's one thing I have going for me - I left fake peeks, and as far as I can tell, neither Norse nor VR did.

What I don't get about JDalla is that most of his posts say "wolf" to me, but most of his interactions with books/other possible wolves say "villager".

Please please please tell me you did not intentionally make that night post as an angleshot.

vote wdcbooks

just to make sure I do it.

I'm getting that exact feeling, and the opposite one about VoraciousReader - I like her posts but not her interactions.

if he hadn't put the vote in that post, I'd be sure it wasn't intentionally a night post, though he may still have known his soah vote wasn't going to be fixed. I think :33 is too late for the angleshot.

Two fun posts from the last five minutes of d1 regarding JDalla:

Of course not. not only would that be against the spirit of the game, it's a really stupid angleshoot in it's own right, as all it does is delay the lynch of an outted wolf 50% of the time. So no, def not intentionally, it is a bad play both ethically and strategically.

Not that that clears me, I'm sure I could have made the same mistake as a wolf.


I don't know why you think I sound wolfy btw, anything specific or just general WW paranoia?

To restate - I would not do that as an angleshoot as any role, it is cheating and I would deserve a modkill.

This is the price Zurvan pays for faking seer all the time. You FPS every game and no one trusts you when you really are the seer.

We all mourn Soah's tragic death. Such a shame, and so young.

So let's talk about who we should lynch today?

Sad to say it, but the wolfy tone stuff is hard to explain. It's just a feeling. Something about you just seems really... "wolfy". It's nothing to really worry about if you're a villager- Wednesday is the next day it would possibly matter and I'm definitely rereading the thread a couple times between now and then. And I'm also taking interactions into account, which make you look a lot better imo.

I have to find another game or two of norseman's before Wednesday to skim. He's apparently one of those perpetually wolfy guys, and I don't have the first clue how to read him. He had some terribad posts d1 though, all else aside.

Unfortunately I am the very definition of a busy person tonight and probably won't be back in the thread before nightfall. I'll try. I don't imagine you'll need my vote to lynch wdcbooks anyway.

Also, lol JDalla. No.

LOL wdcbooks. You evil bastard.