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09-08-2010 , 08:42 AM
Are you saying we shouldn't discuss today and just wait for tomorrow?
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09-08-2010 , 08:43 AM
yes
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09-08-2010 , 08:46 AM
Do you want to avoid wolf levelling?
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09-08-2010 , 08:47 AM
I don't want to give them any ideas at all
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09-08-2010 , 08:53 AM
Normally I'd say it's better to post reads since tonight a villager will be killed and it would valuable to have input from a villager, especially if he has some kind of reasoning for his reads.
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09-08-2010 , 08:57 AM
if we talk a lot, it's gonna be pretty clear who everyone doesn't want to lynch and then we're standing at tomorrow only that guy nk'd and it's gonna be practically same as today
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09-08-2010 , 09:20 AM
So you'd rather not discuss who the likeliest wolf team is so as to protect the guy you think may be a villager?
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09-08-2010 , 09:25 AM
esse doesn't want anyone pointing out that if he were villa he would have been nk by now
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09-08-2010 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
esse doesn't want anyone pointing out that if he were villa he would have been nk by now
lol yeah this

leon nk over esse? I think not.

I still can't really explain the jd kill
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09-08-2010 , 09:52 AM
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09-08-2010 , 01:19 PM
why didn't we go with my plan? no one seems to be talking anyway
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09-08-2010 , 03:02 PM
I guess this works too
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09-08-2010 , 05:18 PM
Vote count

[0] Titanrulez voted for no lynch
[0] UAW voted for
[0] VayaConDios voted for
[0] derwipok voted for
[0] essedarius voted for no lynch
[0] globetrotter voted for

night in :45 minutes
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09-08-2010 , 05:21 PM
I know my eod yesterday looks bad.

I voted aao before I saw who was voting for him.

I ended up voting aao because vaya made me think he wasn't a wolf. I could be wrong.

Still want to lynch titan.

We should go no lynch today.

no lynch
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09-08-2010 , 05:48 PM
Vote count

[0] Titanrulez voted for no lynch
[0] UAW voted for no lynch
[0] VayaConDios voted for
[0] derwipok voted for
[0] essedarius voted for no lynch
[0] globetrotter voted for

night in :10 minutes
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09-08-2010 , 06:07 PM
No ones been lynched boyz

night actions to me
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09-08-2010 , 06:54 PM
Titan has been nked

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titan,

You are Mat Cauthon, a ta'averen and a angel/vig villager.

You want to simply mind your own business, but your friends keep getting into trouble and you have to go save them. Every night you can check up on one person. If the wolves come there for their nk, you will be there to protect that person, and kill the intruder.

Be careful with claiming, there is a very strong anticlaiming mechanism in place.

You are a follower of the light and win by destroying all the darkfriends.
DAY

It is Must Lynch

There is no unvoting

There is no vote changing
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09-08-2010 , 06:55 PM
UAW
VayaConDios
derwipok
essedarius
globetrotter
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09-08-2010 , 06:55 PM
That was a short night.
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09-08-2010 , 06:58 PM
Vaya/uaw/globe are my candidates, I won't vote esse.
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09-08-2010 , 07:14 PM
oh hai

definately worth it to not talk about villagers yesterday imo, I had some doubts about Titan for sure.. although he coulda just claimed vig I guess..
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09-08-2010 , 07:22 PM
UAW reread

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Originally Posted by UAW710
AirforceJB: slightly wolfy
CalledDownLight: villager
J.D.: no read
Swiitch: villager
Titanrulez: villager
VayaConDios: no read
aao
bogan4life: villager
derwipok
essedarius
globetrotter
leonid: wolf
lxthrottle: wolf lean

leonid007
Marked reads for later, having slown as wolfy is good.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
leonid should have more votes. A lot of people are talking about him, but they are not voting him.

Your swiitch vote is bad lx

leonid's titan vote is bad

They should both be wagons
He's pushing two villagers here. I won't blame anyone for pushing LXT, I did think leonid was villagery at the start though. J.D. and maybe others also thought leo was wolfy though.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
AirforceJB: slightly wolfy because of his wolf list, plus he pretty much had to post if he read the thread because people were already talking about it so him posting is neutral to me.

He called CDL,titan, lxthrottle, and leonid wolves.

I don't see how anyone can think CDL and titan are wolfy aorn. Titan seems to be genuinely wolf hunting and CDL seems to be playing like I have seen him play as a villager.
The CDL reads seems really weird at that time.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
Good morning

Swiitch, titan, bogan, and derwipok are villagery.

Lxthrottle is so weird I don't know if he is wolfy or not.

Leonid is getting slightly villagery.

CDL is getting slightly wolfy.

aao is wolfy, especially if he doesn't come back and post before eod.

AirforceJB is still kinda wolfy.


Doesn't look like leonid is getting wagoned today. I say we put pressure on aao.

aao
The leonid contradiction was mentioned often enough, but it's worth pointing out again here.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
Why I Think This Post Is Wolfy:

1st line: Has excuse for not being active plus promises to be more active later. I do this as a wolf to avoid posting early and promise to be active later so that I can hopefully avoid a lynch.

2nd line: Throws out an easy wolf read(which I happen to disagree with). From what I've seen titan is an easy mislynch for wolves so it wouldn't surprise me if aao is a wolf trying to get titan lynched. Other people had mentioned titan so aao could be testing to see if others will follow.

3rd line: Villa leans. I see no reason to say lxthrottle is villagery and I don't get how he thinks JD is villagery.

titan vote: Trying to build a wagon on an easy mislynch candidate.
This is when he was questioned for his aao read. Aao had 1 post at the time, seems like the perfect mislynch candidate. Especially since he's a strong player, so getting rid of him would be good for the wolves. The post reads good, but it also looks like overanalyzing here.

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Originally Posted by ibavly
Vote count as of 538

[1] AirforceJB voted for CDL
[3] CalledDownLight voted for bogan
[0] J.D. voted for Airforce
[0] Swiitch voted for lxt
[2] Titanrulez voted for lxt
[0] UAW voted for aao
[0] VayaConDios voted for CDL
[1] aao voted for titan
[1] bogan4life voted for lxt
[0] derwipok voted for lxt
[0] essedarius voted for CDL
[0] globetrotter voted for
[0] leonid voted for unvote
[5] lxthrottle voted for titan

Night in :30 minutes
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Originally Posted by UAW710
CDL

He has been wolfy, plus close wagons are good.
I just hate this post, the last part is so wolfy. Why does he feel the need to add that? The fact that CDL was wolfy should be enough in itself. It's like a nice excuse for the case that CDL is lynched (noone knew that he was a neutral).

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Originally Posted by UAW710
aao

This guy is a wolf, as a villager aao is actively involved in the thread, pushing his suspects and putting in a lot of work analyzing posts and players. This game he is not doing that at all, he is just coasting.
This was saturday, there were just 1.5 game days played at the time and aao had said that he would contribute more over the weekend. There's no need to rush this, he could just wait to see if aao comes back with something.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
Vaya would be a good wagon today also. I don't think he is ever getting nk'd because of his first post. I don't know if he will ever be able to clear himself either because of that post.
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Originally Posted by UAW710
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
cdl/aao/globe
fyp
Vaya had uaw insted of vaya in his post. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a joke, but it looks like those are uaw's wagon suggestions. I'm only wondering why he has globe in there whom he didn't really mention before when he had just said that vaya would be a good wagon.

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Originally Posted by ibavly
Vote count

[2] AirforceJB voted for

[0] CalledDownLight voted for
[0] J.D. voted for airforce
[0] Titanrulez voted for derwi
[3] UAW voted for aao
[0] VayaConDios voted for
[2] aao voted for
[0] bogan4life voted for airforce
[1] derwipok voted for UAW
[0] essedarius voted for UAW
[0] globetrotter voted for UAW
[0] leonid voted for aao

Night in :70 minutes
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Originally Posted by UAW710
Airforce, aao, and cdl have not voted.

Airforce has not posted today.

aao and cdl have posted once today.

globe did not post at all day 1.

aao and globe both have less posts than me, and I am usually the definition of utr.

This is not what villagers are supposed to be doing.

These people need to be pressured.

I am a villager so please get your votes off me.

AirforceJB
Apparently a vote to save himself.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
Airforce is a self-preservation vote although I do think he has been wolfy.
As he says here. I think this post is kinda villagery since a wolf would probably ant some more credit, especially since he was pushing airforce earlier.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
QFT

If others will vote cdl I will move my vote there also.
He had cdl as wolfy earlier and it seems like he thought cdl was a better wagon. So why not just vote him and see what happens? Esse had already changed and there were enough people around to make a cfd possible and enough time to switch back to slown. It's possible that he thought a cdl cfd would look to wolfy here when slown comes back wolf.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
If I was a wolf, why wouldn't I vote lxthrottle when I had him as wolfy?

I still think aao is wolfy. I have made my case. Why would me pushing a wolf suspect be wolfy?

aao/cdl/airforce/globe are my wolf suspects aorn.
More pushing of aao.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
AirforceJB: wolfy
CalledDownLight: wolfy
J.D.: villa lean
Titanrulez: villa lean
VayaConDios: villa lean
aao: wolf
bogan4life:villa
derwipok: villa
essedarius: villa lean
globetrotter: wolfy
leonid: villa lean
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Originally Posted by UAW710
I don't think I can safely vote cdl yet. My vote has to stay on Airforce.
Same as a bove, closer to night though.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
Airforce needs to explain why he wasn't lynched.

CDL and aao need to start contributing. globe as well

JD seems like a weird kill. Don't know what to make of it.

bogan is still a villager.

CDL
Next day cdl is good enough for the vote, even voting him over slown here.

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Originally Posted by Titanrulez
Don't Lynch

Titanrulez
bogan4life
AirforceJB
J.D.
VayaConDios

Lynch

aao - wolf
derwipok
essedarius

Unknowns

CalledDownLight
UAW
globetrotter
leonid
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Originally Posted by UAW710
titan,

Would you please explain your Airforce and Vaya reads?

And then your derwipok and esse reads.
Maybe this is the point where he turns around on titan? Seems kinda weak though.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
AirforceJB
Voting slown after he gave up.

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Originally Posted by UAW710
aao

This guy is still a wolf.
And here we are at the already quoted part.

So why did I highlight the titan reads? As can be seen, uaw had titan as a villager throughout the game. Yet when aao, whom he had as wolfy throughout the game, finally became a strong wagon he backs off because of bad company. But the company was titan and vaya, whom he had as a village lean at that team. This is just so weird. If aao was a wolf I would be all over uaw here, but even with aao=villager I think it's wolfy because of the obvious contradiction with his own read.

Cliffs about uaw:

+ had slown as wolfy all game
- only ever voted him to save himself
- the leonid contradiction
- pushing of aao when there was no real reason to, looks like someone going for a mislynch
+- not cfd cdl, looks good because slown was a wolf and cdl not, but also seems like he didn't want to look bad for it and slown was probably going down anyway at that point
- weird change of heart on titan that was a sudden contradiction to his read all game before
- everything that I already pointed out about last eod
+ That one slown post that looked good for uaw
- weird reasoning in cdl vote

I think that's all? I did half of this way earlier today and the rest now so I might have forgotten something, but uaw looks like a probable wolf here.
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09-08-2010 , 07:24 PM
right now I still think it's vaya and globe

but, I have to reread this thread some time today
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09-08-2010 , 07:26 PM
Why the hell was titan killed?
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09-08-2010 , 07:26 PM
Without reread I could see all of vaya/uaw/globe being wolves, that's the problem.
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