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12-05-2014 , 12:00 AM

#26

corycurren

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i'll be in two games so i can't play cause of work schedule

if MB wants to mod i'll go back into my hole because he already knows how to run vote robots and i don't

but he should play and let me mod imo

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12-05-2014 , 12:00 AM

#27

well named

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oh, I can't read read. Well at least MB knows now that the time I did this to him it was an accident

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12-05-2014 , 12:01 AM

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monstrman

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Good times all the way back then.

That was a great game.

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12-05-2014 , 12:01 AM

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Monkey Banana

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Originally Posted by well named

MB confirmed modding? I can edit the title, in case it helps signups (i've always wondered if "needs mod" discourages people. maybe it doesn't. I dunno)

I'll only mod if we can use my rules -- no subs, short nights. I'm open to persuasion on whether there should be majorities in this format and although I favour no n0 or a parity cop approach, I could agree to a n0 rand villager peek if that's what people favour.

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12-05-2014 , 12:02 AM

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baudib1

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Gl have fun.

I can't say I hope this style catches on. The thrill of the reveal is a huge portion of the fun equity in werewolf and I don't think I will ever play this type of game.

To each their own tho

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12-05-2014 , 12:04 AM

#31

soah

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Originally Posted by fnord_too

Have you ever watched video mafia soah? that is no reveal. one common setup (circa 6 months ago when I last watched or played it) was 15 players, 3 mafia, 1 cop (parity or normal), i vigilante with only 1 bullet, 1 medic who could not protect himself, usually nerfed so he couldn't protect the same player on consecutive nights.

Mafia got to kill 2 people per night (including n0!) until there were 2 or less left, when they only got to kill one. They could put both kills on the same person, which would over ride a medic protection. This was pretty balanced and fun in my experience, but I don't know if would translate to forum well. (I had a way around the 2 n0 kills, basically make it a 13er, rand with 2 no players until they both get non mafia roles, and they die n0).

Claiming and counter claiming is pretty interesting in these.

That was pretty much my inspiration for this setup, but I've stripped it down to just the bare essentials. Actually I think you posted in the previous thread where I discussed this idea. But n0 kills suck so this is what I end up with.

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12-05-2014 , 12:10 AM

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Monkey Banana

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I tried the video setup too. I think it works as a 13er the way fnord has it. But no one was really interested, which was a pity.

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12-05-2014 , 12:12 AM

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fnord_too

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Originally Posted by soah

In my failed game (lack of interest) i just made it a 13'er and was going to rand with 2 dummy players to make it 15, so that the possibility of village power roles being removed was still there but no actual player was N0'd.

The one thing in that set up that yours doesn't have is the kill power reduction. With double stacking it isn't 100% accurate (though there are some scenarios you know know you have reduced KP). That is actually a pretty big source of information.

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12-05-2014 , 12:16 AM

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Monkey Banana

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I think it's really strategic, whereas the way Soah has it is likely to be a bit of a guessing game. It's a real pity people didn't want to play it because I think it would work quite well as a forum game. Possibly better if people could commit to a few hours so it could be played as a semiturbo though.

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12-05-2014 , 01:14 AM

#35

dbmurph22

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Originally Posted by soah

No reveals is brutal in a game that lasts 5 weeks but I think we can get by in a game that lasts 5 days? :P

holy hell yeah that was rough

still brutal here but at least quick and dirty

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12-05-2014 , 01:17 AM

#36

dbmurph22

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

n0 you give a name and get no return from mod
n1 you give another name and get "same" or "different"

so you know player 2 is either the same alignment as player 1 or opposite alignment.

We've done that role on BGG a moderate amount and call it a Quasi-Seer, but usually you submit two names each night.

Also a half seer. Submit two names and get the results of one but don't know which.

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12-05-2014 , 01:18 AM

#37

dbmurph22

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cory had no idea life as you know it started with the nursing home

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12-05-2014 , 01:32 AM

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TheBrokenATM!

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I donate my body to science. Begin experiment

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12-05-2014 , 01:33 AM

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Gamer Dude

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in to be a lab rat

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12-05-2014 , 01:39 AM

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q_q

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12-05-2014 , 09:07 AM

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tappokone

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I'm in as long as the game will be over by Sunday 14th.

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12-05-2014 , 09:14 AM

#42

soah

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dbmurph
Gamer Dude
q_q
soah
tappakone

did I miss anyone?

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12-05-2014 , 12:52 PM

#43

ReddBoiler

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12-05-2014 , 01:03 PM

#44

IAmRobik

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Maybe /in. I think this game is a lot harder on forum than video.

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12-05-2014 , 01:25 PM

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CalledDownLight

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I think the balance definitely depends on who is playing. If you have a bunch of people prone to going full ****** the village would do better having no seer than having a full seer (like all the games where 4 villagers hardclaim seer and **** like that). I can only imagine someone randing seer and peeking both wolves then volunteering to die and then two other guys deciding they need to hardclaim seer as villagers and all of a sudden the village loses. If you have people who won't fakeclaim seer as a villager then I think balance is ok.

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12-05-2014 , 01:40 PM

#46

dbmurph22

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I've also found that it's fun to play no reveal games with setups of very low villager content. Obviously doesn't work with reveals in a known setup.

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12-05-2014 , 02:09 PM

#47

ReddBoiler

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Out nvm

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12-06-2014 , 09:04 AM

#48

soah

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bump

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12-06-2014 , 11:35 AM

#49

well named

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In for science.

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12-06-2014 , 11:38 AM

#50

Thingyman

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Originally Posted by well named

In for science.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

longest retirement ever

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