This is the standard wording.
Suppose Player A is targeted by the Night Angel, but the night action is moved to Player C by a Redirector or a Randomizer.

1) What happens if the Angel targets Player C the following night?
2) What happens if the Angel targets Player A the following night (he is dumb or he learned that his NA was moved)

If you say in 1) that the Night Action goes through, will you tolerate a wolf team Angel + Redirector angeling the same person every night?

I am using the following wording:
This makes randomizing/redirection a nobrainer and fixes the potential brokenness of a game with multiple angels (Village Odd+Even Angel, for example)

I would say that the Angel cannot target the same player two nights in a row, and it's not his fault if something happens after he submits.

I would deal with the wolf issues in other ways. Personally I would never include a wolf angel in any game that I design, so I would never have to worry about it. But if I were a consultant for a game where this could be an issue, I'd put a restriction on the wolf redirecter so that he cannot use his powers on a wolf.

I suppose this still leaves open the possibility of a village angel and village redirecter working together to circumvent the restriction, but if the village redirecter knows who the angel is then it seems like the wolves ought to be able to get around this problem by just killing the angel.

What don't you like about the wolf angel role?

The post restriction should be something like "you may not have more than 1 post more than the next highest posting player." That way you dont have a spammer clogging the thread with nonsense. It would also be elite for an "added" wolf power since you could silence the top poster on d3 if you have the following post counts and killed the guy in 2nd: 365, 364, 248. This possibility would (or at least should) lead to a handful of posters determining the upper bound of participation since straying from the pack with another 1-2 people would be dangerous.

one post more lol
CDL stop using hallucinating substances

that XXsooted always getting modkilled

but I think CDL meant at EOD

Just to throw in my 2 cents... as someone who had ALWAYS read the thread (multiple times every game) in the past... I don't even bother to try to read day 1 in a mish mash anymore, and sometimes even day 2... I read like 2 pages to get a feel for opening posts and then interact with what's going on around me at the time and that's IT. VMF called me a wolf once (when I was a villager) because I said I couldn't be bothered... no offense, but ww worked just as well when we had 9 page threads... Now I'm VERY lucky if they are under 9 pages when I finally get online around 12-1 day 1.

So while Noze might not read the thread, plenty of good players that can't be bothered now, would read it.

It'd be fun to have some PoR games where the post restriction is obscenely low compared to what is the new normal... 10 PPD or something... And don't get me wrong, I like to post and interact... I love the social aspect of ww... But people are complaining about sign-up's not filling and the like... I wouldn't be surprised if the spam fest is a huge part of that.

Can we get a list of outed lawyers? Might be enough for a mash.

hoayah
gadahrene
lkj(ah?)
diskohteque
muttigah(?)
elliotrah

if there are unouted lawyahs lurking identify yourselves and we won't hurt you

Mutigers is not even yet in law school, I'm pretty sure. There's still time for him to save himself.

me gadarene hoya and karak all went to the same school too im pretty sure

post restrictions and ITAs don't go together too well, so I am not sure post restrictions will work after day 1 in mish mashes unless you make them like 150

post restriction is much easier to monitor than word restriction, but the latter would be much more effective. Word bombs take much more time to read and process than 20 one liners.

hope it wasn't T14 because you guys could singularly bump it out.

I bet if you try hard you can decode which school Hoya went to.

I like where you are going with this, but the bolded is belied by the fact that the biggest games which are the ldo biggest spamfests (Anniversary, Harry Potter, MtG, etc) tend to never have trouble getting people to sign up. It seems to be the smaller mashes that have trouble generating enough signups to run.

atakdoggah

We need to work harder and together to talk him out of it imo

Don't you get a ton of people signing up for those games out of a sense of obligation or whatever and slank/go UTR/not read thread?

man i ****ing love lkj's dry lawyer humor

Part of this is that people are willing to gear up a few times a year for these biggest/traditional games and can't do it most of the time, so the thought process is "joy, another spam fest, I think I'll pass and save my self-loathing for later"

Part of this is that people want to sign up for these games because they're big games, but really still don't want to read that crap, so game play suffers as a result because half the people spam and half the people are signed up but not reading jack **** because ain't nobody got time for that, and what emerges, while an interesting social experiment, isn't really related to werewolf in a meaningful way

we* have the tools...


*Chips

Well you're going to have that in every mash, I think. It has certainly been the case in every one I've ever played anyway.

Sometimes people have good intentions when they sign up but then real life gets in the way. But you're always going to have slankers imo no matter what.

this is what happens when you have post restrictions (all within 13 min of it being lifted in a game with like 7 people left). Similar word bombs were dropped earlier in the day to make sure everyone could say what they wanted:

click through to see some of the multiquotes that take 10 min or more to read each. Post restrictions don't solve the unreadable thread issue.