Everybody is talking about a 3-5 sweet spot. 3 people I have suggested voting for are in that 3-5 sweet spot (Look at my bolded list, Mowz and piz are on there, and I voted for Sightless already).

This is what I'm saying, why not do Sightless or mowz or piz first?

it's not supposed to, i just thought i'd compile the list since nicholas has been referring to voting order

(also he wasn't online/posting at the time of voting, for whatever that's worth)

As I can see no likely targets, I am abstaining from this vote.

I am thinking about the list of who were the biggest supporters of lynching bobby and why they haven't appeared here yet. A good wolf strategy would be to hit and run and let the villagers accuse each other.

I am leaning toward jba right now, though I am less than 50% sure he is a wolf.

I think kramer could be a wolf (or maybe just someone who posts at night) pulling a nice a hit and run. we are likely to kill an innocent today, but we need to lay out a strategy going forward before we do it because I suspect someone important will targeted by the wolves tonight.

I just want all my thoughts out in the open in case I'm not here tomorrow morning. It might take a few posts to make that happen.

JB was the first to suggest that bobbyi was a ww (ha first abbreviation)

Good Morning! Mountain Standard Time, here, 17wk old daughter to help feed and few calls to make = not getting online until 10am... Nothing to be suspicious about, I am with all of you and the logic so far.

I am not a wolf. I tend to my crop, a few chickens and I enjoy sunsets, kittens and outing wolves.

SO:

One nice wolf strategy is to immediately vote for the guy that voted for you so as WOLVES you cancel each other and stay 'under the radar'.

but I am not a wolf, so I am not voting for MicCheck, like others would.

I am voting for jba to generate a little more immediacy to his protestations.

I vote jba

But anyone reading bobby's post would hav come to that conclusion. kramer was the first to vote for bobby.

Oh, and can someone outline the logic that if jba is a werewolf I am and if he is a villager I am? I'm not disagreeing with it I just was wondering what the line of thought that proved that was. Thanks : )

Players: 10 outstanding votes
4_2_it (1 vote)
Andrew Karpinski (3 votes)
d10 voted Andrew Karpinski
Evans67
jba (5 votes) voted Andrew Karpinski
jesusarenque voted for jba
keikiwai
Kramer.
Macdaddy Warsaw
mic_check12 voted rbdog
mowz
nation voted for Andrew Karpinski
Nicholasp27 voted for jba
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!
pudley4 voted for jba
rbdog (1 vote) voted for jba
Sightless voted for 4_2_it
tightplay
Toe-Knee voted for jba
zephed

I think the line of reasoning was if jba was a wolf than you are either a wolf or the village idiot If he is/was a villager than you are one as well.

this is probably happening because people are trying to lynch me, so I'm trying to deflect, and you seem to have drawn suspicion. better you than me, especially since the chance of you being a WW infinitely outweigh the chance of me being one.

Yes those are the conclusions but what is the line of reasoning that those conclusions are drawn from?

if jba is a werewolf, you MIGHT be one. the line of reasoning is:

if jba is a villager, you are not a werewolf because you came to his defense.
if YOU are a werewolf, jba is not a villager, because you came to his defense.

it's not proof because you could be using reverse psychology, but it's more likely that these statements are true.

Before we lynch jba, everyone please put who the seer should look at tonight. I say pizownd. We need to give the seer some guidance here.

agreed on pizownd.

I think we can learn more by "seeing" a person who has been vocal than by seeing a quiet person.

4_2, since you're throwing your weight around (and you seem to have some influence), is there any way I can convince you to come over to my side and get a lynch on Sightless or Piz while trying to get the seer to look at jba? I think that's more logical.

I have to say, I believe jba's story.

I agree the seer should ask about Piz.
Then Andrew.

Gone for two hours... Can I get all this on my Treo?

no, the line of thinking is that andrew is either a wolf or the village idiot, no matter what jba is...andrew is def a wolf or village idiot

I don't have to agree on the seer checking piz, because I initially pushed for that to happen

our BEST BET is for the seer to see a wolf, not for us to lynch one...as once the seer sees a wolf, he can come outta the closet and then is protected by the angel while giving us all the info we need EVERY DAY

so us saying that we want to see PIZOWND means we really think he may be a wolf (i voted for him before changing to jba)

There is of course no guarentee that the seer hasn't looked at pizzowned already. Another good question is when should the seer announce to the villagers that he is the seer and what proof should we require from? I am thinking when he has like 2-3 werewolves outed because we don't want to risk the werewolves eating him before he can tell us.

I think we've made a lot of progress. Hopefully the rest of the players will chime in sooner or later.