I think Hobby - Career is the clue. Unsure what the spectrum is though.

Huh?

Joke

overturned port-a-potty cleaner

This seems like a clue where we're just supposed to ignore the left side of the spectrum entirely and treat 11+ as job - career. It's kinda not even a job either tho lol.

I wanna say about 12? Could even be 11, but it's never less than that so wouldn't really wanna guess that low.

Just gonna say I'm not a fan of this clue

This is the definition of modifier junk with "overturned" whatever that means and then after the main thought of port-a-potty it seems cleaner is the clue?

I'm not even on this team but booo, the whole point of this game is keep it simple words/concepts, do another clue + rand imo

Not a fan of the clue either and this was pretty much the point of having a word limit to begin with.

Not sure it's an illegal clue so whatever, but it's also barely even a part of the spectrum.

port-a-potty cleaner is part of the spectrum. overturned might mod it off the spectrum.

also not a fan of getting a tough rand, so giving an arguably illegal clue, resulting in a re-rand.

play on imo

Play on imo

I'm happy with 12, 13-14 seems a bit high

Ok I may have posted late in the night after a few drinks and don't feel as strongly now

It still feels a little wordy with overturned, I didn't completely understand the clue my initial time reading it but port-a-potty cleaner in itself is a fine clue/idea

12

Not 12

What does overturned add/subtract?

In one sense, that's not really a job since they are so uncommon. Like you're doing that 'career' very sporadically.

So is someone doing it for fun?

If it wasn't overturned, porta cleaners def more of a career than a hobby.

Does overturning it make it way more rare, so more hobbylike, or on the flipside, way more gross, so much less likely someone would do as a hobby than as a career and paid to do it.

No idea

Other than some sicko, I don't know who is ever doing this as a hobby. And shouldn't be an 11. That's like a low stakes grinder or something.

This has to be be career. Could even be 21 lol.

Overturned has to be a modifier to +1 or +2 it

Without that word and the clue being just port-a-potty cleaner it's probably....pretty far up - like who would ever do this as a hobby

Not 21 I guess just for the amount of words, it could just be a 21 cause who would do this lol

Idk if overturned is supposed to turn cleaning up **** into some kind of recreational activity but I don't see how it's not higher

I guess this isn't really a "career" and maybe there's some angle for 11 but I am so far away from cleaning up dookiesticks for free this is like a 21 for me, and idk if I'd accept the job offer

higher

I get this isn't a "career" and is more "job" but it's so far from hobby it feels like 21 + with modifier it should really be 22 or 23!

Higher guess is straight gas

CEO of Apple - ya I guess that's a career, but someone could do it for fun. A lot of CEOs don't even pay themselves (but they get tons of stock options). Ya so maybe that's a 19-20. What would be a 21? hmmm, someone who cleans up piles of sh*t and piss. That's at least a 21.

It was 20

To me many careers are hobbies you get paid for, like Etsy seller is an 11-12.

Getting an extreme like 20 randed, I wanted a career that is definitely not being done as a hobby or for fun.

It is something that people make careers out of or small businesses from, but not a hobby

Overturned was just bc when not overturned you just hook a hose up and drain it like draining an rv, but the bad part is when they get overturned so are a huge nasty mess.

I stayed away from stuff like Chernobyl cleanup and dangerous jobs bc you may think it’s a short career due to death

And even crime scene cleanup could be a bit more towards hobby than 20 because some people’s hobbies are true crime and they enjoy that job and being on the scene of a crime

I think you are fps'ing these clues pretty hard. Just clue heart surgeon or something lol.

Lol

yeah, wavelength not my best game; i'm rarely on the same wavelength as ya'll, so it's a me issue

awaiting rand, i just left the scale so bully is 1 wimp is 21

Good name for a high school bully - good name for a high school wimp