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02-11-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zurvan
Note: There's no guarantee that

a) A wolf would be invited to a harbour
b) Would use an extra kill there even if he was

In fact, I'd say having a wolf narrowed down to 1 out of 3 relatively clear posters is a positive.
Indeed, and I think that the fewer people in the harbors, the less likely it is that the wolves would use it even if they could. The less players the better the information that we gain from a NK is. They would ldo use a kill in a "Me plus 5" scenario. Would they in a "Me plus 3"?
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02-11-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by officedog
catching up on page 9 (sorry, took a ridiculously long nap).

Swiitch, peek me. Everyone will always think I'm a wolf no matter what I do. It might help the village to know one way or another.
i swear i'm not trying to troll you, but please re-read the role sheet also.

(a role peek won't clear you)
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02-11-2011 , 06:27 PM
I seriously doubt if swiitch is a wolf.
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02-11-2011 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
oooh ooooh - this is my best idea of the game:
he cleverly starts out by lowering expectations

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they dont have to be "safe harbors" either. we can use them like a dungeon. tomveil/telcontar could invite their 4 strongest wolf reads. If wolfs want to use a solo-nk they would have to kill the owner (and therefore forfeit all their other kills so they prob wont do this) or nk someone that they normally would have left alive as a potential mislynch. this is almost like turning the wolf solo nk into a unlucky village vig.
and then delivers

jk idea isn't terrible. is it true that if all the wolves are in the tavern that they cant kill someone outside it, or just the opposite?
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02-11-2011 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kowboys4
it does. My point being this is the big pro everyone is talking about but the pro isn't as big as people make it out to be.

Its like saying oh I could fold a 50% equity hand now in the bb to get a 52% equity hand after another round of blinds (poker reference I know).
I think it's possible you don't know what the pros are.
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02-11-2011 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kowboys4
it does. My point being this is the big pro everyone is talking about but the pro isn't as big as people make it out to be.

Its like saying oh I could fold a 50% equity hand now in the bb to get a 52% equity hand after another round of blinds (poker reference I know).
this is true if we continue to lynch villagers


a better analogy is that we could fold a 50% equity hand to get a 52% hand after another orbit where there is a 50/50 chance we have the same stack - blinds/antes or have doubled up.
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02-11-2011 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wahoopride
he cleverly starts out by lowering expectations

and then delivers

jk idea isn't terrible. is it true that if all the wolves are in the tavern that they cant kill someone outside it, or just the opposite?
I don't see how granting wolves access to the harbors is ever good. Even if we have a "peeked" wolf, he'd just use his NK. If we have ALL wolves by some miracle, then I just get killed, or they don't kill at all. Or, the most likely scenario, we invite a couple wolves, and they eat and we have no idea who did it..
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02-11-2011 , 06:30 PM
I'm basing this on my best villa leans for the game.

i would have had swiitch, but he said he wouldnt accept my invite earlier. I hope the rest of you enjoy getting pished with me

Invite to the tavern Homernoon, thingyman, keanureaver, zurvan, rebonkulous
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02-11-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
I seriously doubt if swiitch is a wolf.
why?
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02-11-2011 , 06:32 PM
Also Wahoopride only if rebonk can't come for being a merchant.
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02-11-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wahoopride
jk idea isn't terrible. is it true that if all the wolves are in the tavern that they cant kill someone outside it, or just the opposite?
thats true. if for example all 5 wolves were in tavern/mansion/keep/fcbl - then everyone outside would be protected and the wolf nk would happen indoors and solo nk if used would also be indoors.

that would be really tough to pull off - but yes, thats how it would work.
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02-11-2011 , 06:32 PM
wolves

telco
perdition
bobman
officedog
duckburg
thingy


re-rand
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02-11-2011 , 06:33 PM
I'm here...


Heir tba in less than 30 mins.
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02-11-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
I'm basing this on my best villa leans for the game.

i would have had swiitch, but he said he wouldnt accept my invite earlier. I hope the rest of you enjoy getting pished with me

Invite to the tavern Homernoon, thingyman, keanureaver, zurvan, rebonkulous
these are your best villa leans? Really?
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02-11-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
why?
Because of his villagery posts?
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02-11-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TomVeil
I see what you're saying and still disagree.
If you still disagree with this. If we don't harbor today then we should just not use to the harbors at all, the entire game.

Reasons being
If you fail to use the harbors tonight you say a villager in early game (most likely a vanillager) is worth more then the information down the road which will be HUGE. As Zurvan stated earlier this is assuming (BIG assumption) that a. you actually end up inviting a wolf and b. they use the solo nk (probable imo if you do invite a wolf).

If your to apply this same logic tomorrow you won't suddenly have 3 - 4 cleared villagers to invite. You'll have 3-4 65% villagers (as opposed to 60%) or even worst assuming a seer dies 1 cleared villager and 2-3 65% villagers. Your sacrificing lots of information today for an even more risky situation tomorrow. I say more risky because your still likely to eventually invite a wolf and you might be killing off cleared villagers easily by doing so.
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02-11-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
wolves

telco
perdition
bobman
officedog
duckburg
thingy


re-rand
You know, I'm sure I've seen you perform stand-up in a vegas casino one time. Worst. Comedian. Ever.
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02-11-2011 , 06:34 PM
omg telcontar, i just suggested a (great) idea, and you do the complete opposite without even addressing it?
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02-11-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
these are your best villa leans? Really?
well you think I'm a wolf, so obviously we're not gonna be on the same plane of thinking by any stretch
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02-11-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
omg telcontar, i just suggested a (great) idea, and you do the complete opposite without even addressing it?
i had to get my picks in before :30. My connection dropped about an hour ago and it only just came back up, so I said i was going to take people in, I stuck to my word
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02-11-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
I'm basing this on my best villa leans for the game.

i would have had swiitch, but he said he wouldnt accept my invite earlier. I hope the rest of you enjoy getting pished with me

Invite to the tavern Homernoon, thingyman, keanureaver, zurvan, rebonkulous
wow. Just wow. Can we kill him before this invite goes through?
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02-11-2011 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
wolves

telco
perdition
bobman
officedog
duckburg
thingy


re-rand
Don't start a riot.

If you have me as a wolf tomorrow or later today, you should def start getting people to vote me tomorrow.
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02-11-2011 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
I'm basing this on my best villa leans for the game.

i would have had swiitch, but he said he wouldnt accept my invite earlier. I hope the rest of you enjoy getting pished with me

Invite to the tavern Homernoon, thingyman, keanureaver, zurvan, rebonkulous
hmmm

... yeah, gonna stick with hmmm
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02-11-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
oooh ooooh - this is my best idea of the game:

they dont have to be "safe harbors" either. we can use them like a dungeon. tomveil/telcontar could invite their 4 strongest wolf reads. If wolfs want to use a solo-nk they would have to kill the owner (and therefore forfeit all their other kills so they prob wont do this) or nk someone that they normally would have left alive as a potential mislynch. this is almost like turning the wolf solo nk into a unlucky village vig.
you know, this is actually a brilliant idea. i wish my connection had been up long enough to see it.
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02-11-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kowboys4
If you still disagree with this. If we don't harbor today then we should just not use to the harbors at all, the entire game.

Reasons being
If you fail to use the harbors tonight you say a villager in early game (most likely a vanillager) is worth more then the information down the road which will be HUGE. As Zurvan stated earlier this is assuming (BIG assumption) that a. you actually end up inviting a wolf and b. they use the solo nk (probable imo if you do invite a wolf).

If your to apply this same logic tomorrow you won't suddenly have 3 - 4 cleared villagers to invite. You'll have 3-4 65% villagers (as opposed to 60%) or even worst assuming a seer dies 1 cleared villager and 2-3 65% villagers. Your sacrificing lots of information today for an even more risky situation tomorrow. I say more risky because your still likely to eventually invite a wolf and you might be killing off cleared villagers easily by doing so.
And yet STILL doing it tomorrow is better. For all the reasons I've already mentioned 378947329472398 times. I don't see how you can keep saying "Oh it's only a LITTLE advantage!". It's an advantage and a mistake to screw it up.
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