Mets' psuhing me bacause he fears me imo.

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since the formatting is all messed up i am not sure what you were trying to say, but i went back and read OTI since he only has 7 posts it was super easy.

he hasn't participated in any way. he blatantly admits sponging yesterday AND today. he openly admits to not participating. i really don't see OTI wolf playing this. i think OTI is a villager. sad to say a villager who isn't helping, but still a villager.

so you shouldn't clear larue for this. and it's suspicious that you mentioning clearing him for this. please don't make me start to attack you again this game

I'll write up a detailed quoting of posts if people want, but the strongest soft evidence is that filthy is responding much differently in this game when I have accused him than in other games where I have done so. If I die first I'll just leave that there for people to quote later.

filthy

unvote

other wolfsides include mets and bob ross

mers - I keep trying to write a response to your post about filthy but I keep getting bogged down in details that are necessary for the argument I'm trying to make but end up making my post unreadable. I think the best way for me to sum up what I'm trying to say is that there are a lot of assumptions leading you to the conclusions that you reached and I don't think I agree with at least some of them. I think the things you point out are interesting but I do not believe that any of them actually increase the odds that filthy is a wolf by any noticeable amount

Care to provide some math to back that up?

Coaching session I actually have to pay attention to, be back in an hour

herbie,

i really want to believe mers is a villager. do you think mers is a villager? and could you tell me if your opinion would change much about mers if you knew for 100% certain that i was a villager?

since the formatting is all messed up i am not sure what you were trying to say, but i went back and read OTI since he only has 7 posts it was super easy.

he hasn't participated in any way. he blatantly admits sponging yesterday AND today. he openly admits to not participating. i really don't see OTI wolf playing this. i think OTI is a villager. sad to say a villager who isn't helping, but still a villager.

so you shouldn't clear larue for this. and it's suspicious that you mentioning clearing him for this. please don't make me start to attack you again this game[/QUOTE]


Were you not in the tale of horror game where OTI subbed in as the wolf seer and barely posted anything?

Why are you giving village points for being UTR?

is the tale of horror game the movie mish mash? oh no wait. tale of horror was the stephen king one. i died right away and didn't pay any attention to that game.

so OTI subbed in as a power wolf there and was playing just like he is here?

There's no actual math in your post so I'm not sure what math I'm supposed to provide, but I'll try to list some of the unspoken assumptions just in point 1

- Sleeves is not a wolf
- Wolves will try to save a wolf in distress a higher % of the time than they choose to bus a wolf in distress
- No wolves on the 2nd place wagon who was in danger of being the lynch increases the chance of that person being a wolf

Just off the top of my head. I'm not convinced any of these assumptions are correct.

since the formatting is all messed up i am not sure what you were trying to say, but i went back and read OTI since he only has 7 posts it was super easy.

he hasn't participated in any way. he blatantly admits sponging yesterday AND today. he openly admits to not participating. i really don't see OTI wolf playing this. i think OTI is a villager. sad to say a villager who isn't helping, but still a villager.

so you shouldn't clear larue for this. and it's suspicious that you mentioning clearing him for this. please don't make me start to attack you again this game[/QUOTE]

Huh?? What? Exondo wasn't talking about me he was talking about Mets. I don't know how my name got thrown in here.

Yeah, and survived two of my vig shots

I think mers is a villager, but I'm not confident about it. You being a villager would not impact my judgement all that much either way, but if anything you being a villager would make it more likely that mers is also a villager, just because I don't see why wolf-mers would make that case against village-you at this point in time

up to #1064

Vote Count
Total Votes	Player	Vote
	Bob Ross	Dyenimator
2	Duckburg	zayana
	DonkDonkDonkDonk
	Drubell	unvote
4	Dyenimator
	Exoendo
1	Filthyvermin	dyenimator
	herbieGRD	dyenimator
	LaRue05	dyenimator
1	Mersenneary	filthyvermin
	Metsandfinsfan	onthinice911
1	Onthinice911
	sleeves	Duckburg
	uaw710
	youngplayer9
	younguns87	mersenneary
1	zayana	Duckburg

Pm me if there are any mistakes or rebold your vote plz

Frankly I'm going to be a very sad panda if we don't end up lynching dyenimator today

Update list:

Villas

• Filthy - I made my case earlier
• Bob - #845 villagery tone, #858 TONS of analysis, especially for a new player

^ DOES NOT sound like a newbie wolf

• YG - Has been more villagery recently. Also his reaction to me when I called him a wolf was to call me a wolf right back and slightly tunnel me. I think wolves tend to ignore when a random person floats their name because they dont want to attract too much attention to themselves.

The rest in no particular order:

• Drubell - I think he's had a lot of villagery analysis. Honest tone.
  
  
• Mets - Seems more interested in this game than his prior wolf games as of late. Less standoffish
  
  
• Duck - don't see why he would draw so much heat as a wolf by possibly fake peeking mets and zay wolves. The two most likely players that would probably most stir up a ****storm over it. It's worthy to note he claimed wolf in an ongoing ww game and his role there is still unresolved. So that could be useful insight into his tendencies if he comes back wolf there. But we can't really speculate on that right now.
  
  
• Larue - I think post #918 comes off as villagery

Neutral (no particular order):

• Zay - Just don't want to clear yet.
  
  
• Herbie - I don't think herbie has been overtly villagery, that isn't to say he's wolfy. I am just not confident yet.
  
  
• oti - meh nothing on him yet
  
  
• dye - can sound wolfy, I think a good chance he's still just a newbie villager.
  
  
• Mers - making a lot of weird conditional statements. i.e.: "If this is this and this is this than that means I am not a wolf." I think a lot of his posts look kind of "planned" if that makes sense. He has been putting in effort but I just get bad vibes from him. The most wolfy out of my neutrals. Really more of a lean wolf than a neutral tbh, but I dont know If i want to put him firmly in my wolf list yet

Wolves (no particular order):

Some of these are POE'd. Most of these guys are for the most part in the background and not saying much.

• Donk - his assumption that the mrgaito kill was based on tone I think is just really off for a villager to conclude right away. He also hasn't been posting much or given much in the way of reads
  
  
• Sleeves - doesn't post much, hasn't offered up much, readily agreed with my filthy analysis and I find that odd because I don't think he's been paying a ton of attention to the thread, so his snap conclusion just reads to me that he's just skimming, seeing a long post and going "looks good"
  
  
• YP9 - UTR, in the background, still an unresolved wagon
  
  
• UAW - hiding, not contributing

Have you read my post about filthy being villa? Please let me know what you think

I hope you are doing this for a reason other than my post. Even in my post I said he's probably an fpsing villa.

I'm following the thread correctly. And I haven't lied about a single thing. Follow the previous post, it's not entirely apparent what you are referring to, but I know what I was referring to in what I quoted. Who's not following the thread correctly?

He was obviously talking about Duck voting me there and NOT intending to vote me. Who's not following the thread correctly?

Mers made a case, I get his case. But with bussing and such there is no reason to completely clear him based on it, but it looks good enough and there are wolfier people itt.

DO NOT TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES.
The people you are talking about are still alive, there are people in this game still alive. Don't make me say this again!

meh, maybe, but I still think if there are good potential seer candidates, they're killing them and not a cleared villa.

Except you aren't catching people in lies and you are reading people wrong!

This is a villager!

Wolves wouldn't necessarily know Perd is angel, Perd comes off as wolfy only because he's a little abrasive sometimes. So a villa could have started it. I only see wolves starting it if it is filthy/dye as w/w. Donk and UAW were the first 2 people on, so meh, it could have been wolf generated.

Yesterdays vote order:

Count	Post	Player	Vote
1	477	HerbieGRD	Dyenimator
1	526	Metsandfinsfan	Duckburg
1	538	Drubell	LaRue05
2	550	Metsandfinsfan	LaRue05
1	556	Filthyvermin	Youngplayer9
1	590	Bob Ross	DonkDonkDonkDonk
1	608	Drubell	UAW710
1	613	Filthyvermin	Zayana
1	634	DonkDonkDonkDonk	Perdition
1	646	Duckburg	Younguns87
1	649	Perdition	Filthyvermin
2	655	Metsandfinsfan	Younguns87
2	692	Zayana	UAW710
1	706	Younguns87	Mersenneary
2	707	Filthyvermin	Mersenneary
2	710	Mersenneary	Filthyvermin
2	714	UAW710	Perdition
2	723	Filthyvermin	Dyenimator
1	738	OnThInIcE911	Metsandfinsfan
3	743	Drubell	Perdition
2	755	Metsandfinsfan	Mersenneary
3 - 760 - Zayana - Dyenimator
3 - 766 - Sleeves - Filthyvermin
4 - 767 - Bob Ross - Dyenimator
2 - 776 - Youngplayer9 - Younguns87
4 - 799 - Metsandfinsfan - Perdition
5 - 802 - LaRue05 - Perdition
1 - 811 - Exoendo - DonkDonkDonkDonk
- 812 - Drubell - unvote
2 - 816 - Bob Ross - DonkDonkDonkDonk
4 - 818 - BamBam192 - Filthyvermin
5 - 820 - Exoendo - Perdition
6 - 824 - Filthyvermin - Perdition

Maybe, cause he's not a wolf?

I said the same thing about the kill, mers = villa, Herbie = wolf is the only possibility I really saw.

This.

Good catch from Dru. I'm staying on Duck all day out of principle, but this looks bad for OTI. I mean no offense to Exo but I don't think he's anywhere close to clear either, he's had some good posts, but if I was randomly giving my vote to anyone right now it'd probably be Dru.

This might have merit. And with a bunch of people pushing me now I'm not clearing anyone for it anymore. He has had some good posts though, so I'll reread him.

He's pushing you because you are either a wolf or a crappy villager. Oh and he switched to OTI, so you are late on this post.

i have a slight villa lean on mers. that is almost completely from his analysis of D1 wagons that i believe gives him some village credit for the way the votes went down.

i do not give him any credit at all for his attack on me. he could easily do this in either role. he said in a recent turbo that his goal for the game was to not get pwned by me.

Sorry to pick this one thing out of your massive post

But wolves can roleblock.

If they can roleblock a potential seer and kill a cleared player, that's win/win. A seer without peeks isn't much of a seer. DUCY?

And again, with so many players, it may be hard to find out the peeks on the first night or two. Lets not act like wolves ALWAYS seer hunt at ALL times no matter what. Especially with a long game like this.

In a 13er, as a wolf you want the seer dead asap. A seer having 2-3 live peeks will often times blow the game wide open. A seer having a peek or two in a 21er isn't as big of a deal. Especially when you can also roleblock.

I kinda wish dyenimator would come back and give us reads

It's not voicechat, it's skypechat. We voice sometimes to play family feud and stuff... we play ww on there sometimes, though I don't recall off hand if I played ww with yp on there. It's mostly random typed chat.

since the formatting is all messed up i am not sure what you were trying to say, but i went back and read OTI since he only has 7 posts it was super easy.

he hasn't participated in any way. he blatantly admits sponging yesterday AND today. he openly admits to not participating. i really don't see OTI wolf playing this. i think OTI is a villager. sad to say a villager who isn't helping, but still a villager.

so you shouldn't clear larue for this. and it's suspicious that you mentioning clearing him for this. please don't make me start to attack you again this game[/QUOTE]
He wasn't clearing larue, he was clearing dru.

Huh?? What? Exondo wasn't talking about me he was talking about Mets. I don't know how my name got thrown in here.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm and who's not paying attention? Exo was talking about mets, but he subbed in your name for Dru. You know I'm just harping on this because it's what you are accusing me of. And if you reread me with the mindset that I'm a villager you'll see that I am paying attention, I haven't twisted anything and you have.

That one post is really screwing up everyone's posts that are referring to it.