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11-20-2014 , 08:46 PM

#5301

corycurren

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DWetzel

crunkus
arcbell
traz
phelanpt
gamer

in no particular order

I predict that exactly one of cory/monstr/tom is a wolf and it's on them to figure out who the mole is

gamer is a villager

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11-20-2014 , 08:46 PM

#5302

lenC

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lol yamato

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11-20-2014 , 08:47 PM

#5303

traz

Werewolf Super*

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 33,259

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvellosity

this feels really town vs mafia and I don't know which is which!

Arg

I get this feeling too but in my experience it means its probably more mixed than we realize and someone is le hiding well

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11-20-2014 , 08:47 PM

#5304

Phelanpt

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,203

FYI, if this lynch hits another town instead of me, just vig me. I'm not going to even bother tomorrow.

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11-20-2014 , 08:47 PM

#5305

DWetzel

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Originally Posted by corycurren

gamer is a villager

well, cross him off then

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11-20-2014 , 08:47 PM

#5306

Thingyman

Born This Way

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 30,507

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Originally Posted by corycurren

well named
well named
well named
well named
well named
well named
well named
well named
well named
well named

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failhorn.wav

are you voting well named because of a perceived connection to me or what is happening here?

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5307

lenC

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Originally Posted by Phelanpt

FYI, if this lynch hits another town instead of me, just vig me. I'm not going to even bother tomorrow.

Atta boy.

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5308

Crunkus

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 641

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbmurph22

Crunk whoever else, posted this earlier

Thanks db.

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Why Phel is a wolf, in short:

- early suspicion which is far from sure footing, but a start centered around him playing a bit soft coming out.**He comes out pretty hard, not just posting, but style, pretty early.**He’s admitted this he’s said, but it still was concerning

- Phel is absolutely paranoid about me.*Paranoid.**I can’t hardly recall him ever calling me good in a game, and it’s been frustrating in the past that would I’ve made pretty strongly**viable good plays, he’s still thought it was a sneaky play by me.**Just because I’ve done that before.*HOWEVER, on DAY ONE he comes out and paints me as good.**I mean wow.**I was pretty surprised.**Seems like a strong POV issue.

Nothing here I can relate to at all. Meta reads.

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- Avin comes out on him, hard.**Avin is of strong mind and just does not budge.*Can be daunting.**Wolf-Phel in this context showed two characteristics.**First, he avoided all eye contact with Avin

I'm guessing no eye contact mean not addressing him. Can anyone confirm that happened first of all? Phel?

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once he came back in the thread.**Then when he did he came right at Avin.***I see two things behind the scenes.**First, he was quiet/avoiding initially to decide how to play it exactly and to, for lack of a better term, gather gumption.**

What are the other possibilities? Having not read the attack its hard to judge this much. A link to it...

How long did he "avoid eye contact" what was he doing instead of addressing it? Was he even active at the time?

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Second, villager Phel would have maybe appealed to Avin as just being wrong, but wolf Phel knows that when Athexx is right, he’s right and stays right.**So it’s really a corner.**I think it’s only natural as a wolf to make the final play which is to turn it back and make it work in favor in the thread

More meta talk. Greek to me.

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– especially since Athexxx already had some suspicion.**Other wolves probably made that suggestion.**He couldn’t do the same to me without being inconsistent.

- Since his whole case of innocence now revolves around Athexx being guilty he has to defuse situations in which Athexx looks good.**And sure there are moments where he tries to encourage his v/v out as well.**But mostly he’s cornered into Athexx being evil.**This has resulted in odd criticisms of Athexx’s villageriness such as denying the viability of Athexx being able to have Saber and Traz as lynch options, but turning them down.

Could someone link me to his case and the original attack on him?

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- Sticking to the notion of “get Athexx” after I die.**And saying this is going to be his last day, but I will give you my reads before I go, etc etc.**It’s the last step of guilt which is to overinflate the fatalism of it.**It’s a a pathos drive play that isn’t true sentiment when examined because it doesn’t match some of his efforts today, which are quite pragmatically driven.

Thingy mentioned the same notion as a villiage tell earlier. Seems to me this sort of thing really isn't a very reliable tell. It's explainable either way.

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- The general thread ratio of the difficulty getting Phel lynched, that he wasn’t on the final wagonsyesterday, and some pretty significant threadwide suspicion as well reflects poorly on him.**To me it shows the wolves are avoiding outright defense and probably throwing out some suspicion too, but are helping save him by diluting the suspect pool as much as possible and having things be overly malleable.**He hasn’t reached the point of outright ditching, so it makes a lot of sense to approach in that way.

That’s it for now.

I'm not sure how people put such stock in the difficulty getting somebody lynched. Absent context...I don't see this meaning much. Especially with this much going on.

I'm trying to appreciate this. I just don't yet. There's a lot of meta involved...and reads based on things I generally don't take much stock in.

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5309

marvellosity

adept

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 868

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbmurph22

I'm real town marv

And I'm spectacular

yes you are town.

i can't vouch for your spectacularness though.

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5310

dbmurph22

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,926

Anyone wants to give a list of possible people to jail that wouldnt be something I hate. Would consider.

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5311

Luckbox Inc

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re tappo: meh

still a prayer

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11-20-2014 , 08:48 PM

#5312

corycurren

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Originally Posted by Thingyman

are you voting well named because of a perceived connection to me or what is happening here?

i'm just making fun of you for believing CFDs are impossible

though you COULD be a wolf

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11-20-2014 , 08:49 PM

#5313

Crunkus

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 641

Are there any generally agreed upon huge meta-reads that I should know about?

Is there a general consensus someone is clearly playing differently? Or is it just a few people's anecdotes?

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11-20-2014 , 08:49 PM

#5314

corycurren

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THREAD

FEELS

TENSE

remember that merk_sa is probably a wolf tho

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5315

The Moocher

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 22,850

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Originally Posted by dbmurph22

Anyone wants to give a list of possible people to jail that wouldnt be something I hate. Would consider.

it depends on the reveal really doesn't it?

also yamato might be getting modkilled so that's 2 reveals

so what you should obviously do is stay up for a couple of hours and re-read the thread based on the new info and make an informed decision

also i managed to type all of that out without laughing, pretty impressed with myself tbh

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5316

Gamer Dude

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corycurren

THREAD

FEELS

TENSE

remember that merk_sa is probably a wolf tho

the resistance to the merk wagon is #NOTED

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5317

marvellosity

adept

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 868

yamato best flip mafia now or i'm gonna look terrible :d

Phelanpt

Unlike Traz I like this wagon better. Final answer.

BOTH dmurph and Athexx on Phelanpt? That has to mean something. And PHelanpt was my initial read, so ego.

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5318

saberwolf13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phelanpt

FYI, if this lynch hits another town instead of me, just vig me. I'm not going to even bother tomorrow.

Why do you have to pull at my heartstrings Phel.

I'm having doubts.

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5319

corycurren

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START TALKING PEOPLE

EVERYONE, WHO DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH TOMORROW IF WE LYNCH PHEL AND HE FLIPS VILLAGER

WHO DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH TOMORROW IF WE LYNCH TAPPO AND HE FLIPS VILLAGER

ANSWER BOTH OF THESE QUESTIONS

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11-20-2014 , 08:50 PM

#5320

DWetzel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corycurren

THREAD

FEELS

TENSE

remember that merk_sa is probably a wolf tho

if merk_sa is a wolf then I have a very very wrong picture of pretty much this entire game

and that's actually possible, but meh

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11-20-2014 , 08:51 PM

#5321

Sleeper Service

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Votes from post 3185 to post 5320
Night in 0:09:55
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
8	Phelanpt	dbmurph22 (137), Athexx (49), Thingyman (165), saberwolf13 (65), well named (47), DWetzel (103), Top Tier Tom (245), marvellosity (159)
6	tappokone	The Moocher (193), Phelanpt (190), lenC (160), Luckbox Inc (58), traz (68), Gamer Dude (70)
1	yamato77	monstrman (95)
1	Top Tier Tom	merk_sa (63)
1	well named	corycurren (78)
1	Arcbell	Crunkus (76)
1	merk_sa	tappokone (55)
1	The Moocher	Arcbell (29)
1	not voting	yamato77 (0)

:00 good :01 bad

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11-20-2014 , 08:51 PM

#5322

Phelanpt

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I'm not finding murph's response post to it, but this is the post I mentioned.

Murph agreed with it, then later went full aggression on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phelanpt

I pretty much admitted that I started this game bad. It's why I wanted people to read on further.
I never flat out denied it. That is a lie.
I expected GoodAvin to reveal some sort of play at some point during D1. He didn't.
So I don't believe that he would try and get me lynched on D1 as a Good unless he was sure.
And this is the part where I disagree: I don't think he would be sure as Good. Because I am town, and he should be able to see that from later posts, if not from my earlier ones.

I started D1 trying to catch up. Left. saw too many posts. skimread, saw avin case on me. posted skimread reads. No athexx there because I wanted to see what he was pulling. tried going back and timewarping what I missed while staying current. Didn't work. Just got me votes. Gave up on that, went back and timewarped as pure as I could, till I saw that I wasn't catching up.
Then moved to current.
Lynched tommydanger on a read, kept my good reads outside lynch. Then saw the tommydanger flip.

I can see why there might be no way for me to be believed without my alignment revealed. But I am going to make damn sure that you guys lynch athexx when it is.

Athexx said it was plausible or something like it, and then went on with "phel is a wolf!!11" anyway.

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11-20-2014 , 08:51 PM

#5323

corycurren

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If we lynch Phel and he's a villager I want to lynch Athexx even if that sounds sort of stupid and time-wasty

If tappo is a villager I am lynching Lunchbox and I don't know why but that's what I wanna do

THOSE ARE MY FEELS