BATM, you've literally never once beaten me in a game of werewolf where we were on different teams.

checkmywwstats.com

And fwiw, I do value your thinking (which is why my decision came with 1 minute until thread closes rather than much earlier).

yeah so BATM you have to understand that because you have a huge and FPSy wolf range people will suspect you in some spots where you should really be clear.

but when you're a villager people should absolutely listen to you more often.

you can clear me a lot easier than I can clear you, that's for sure. If I was in F3 instead of Bhuber, we win because your f3 was a lot like the one we played before.

And this is a very good attitude to have

Yea I like u too BHUBER but u can't read me. So don't say that.
Others who don't liek mjust can see clearly, it's a game. I'm in character all the time.
Is like getting mad at someone cuz they rand wolf a lot.
U need to learn to overlook what the person is projecting and I stead u need to soul read them and find out what's under or what are they not telling you.

I have weird tinfoils but this is what makes me very good.
I say what others can't say cuz they can't see.

In this game I said. Ct is mad he got bussed.
So I cleared redd, BATM and hoya as lock clears cuz we didn't vote him.

How hard is that to realize? Just sponge me.

Don't u see how people who didn't voted Ct were the only ones dying?

That's all. It's the lil things

I don't check stats. Look I just lost because of u. I go by personal wins.
I can't control my teams, u guys won't listen.

I lost 2 f3 because my partners voted me instead of wolf.

Make all the excuses u want

Saying I cant read you because I didnt vote for the guy who actually voted for the wolf (and not 3 villagers) over and over in a 15 minute day length game is just silly and you know better.

I've probably never gotten your role wrong in a long game ~ever. It wasnt so much that you lynched 3 villagers in this game either, it was simply the mere fact that Darthe took a HUGELY -EV line from the get go and he got paid off when he triple barreled every street and binked the nuts (a f3 with me and you).

Expecting your "partner" (me) to correctly vote in that situation (when you've solicited ~0 help whatsoever) is a blameless task that leaves you in the position of saying "zomg you suck" when the person taking all the risk is wrong.

Since I dont mind being the first one to vote, and thus the one being wrong (if I am wrong), then its the end game result we will have to live with.

BATM

2 losses at f3 pathetic BATM. Play better loser. We could be getting drunk and getting some but instead u played WW and just got Ls
How do u feel now? I hope that crush ur ego, u suck batman.

-Ricky

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I told u who the wolves weren't and why.
Told u not redd, not hoya not BATM.
U got the results for the other two but insisted I was wrong.
I wasn't.
It's simple, it shows how u think like a 2007 player.
Evolve ur game! If I was a wolf I would have done what darthe did.
Players like u think is -EV.
It is not. It's a win against close minded and short sighted villagers like yourself.
This is why I'm so scary to play against, I will poke ur eyes eyes and penetrate ur eyes sockets and then put ur eyes back on and tell u: hey I kill the wolf, and I saw another wolf **** ur skull and I put this eyes back on for u.
U cannot comprehend why would I put ur eyes back and will clear me.

This is why I'm a better player.
U play WW 101 and I'm on WW 301
So I know what u going to think and do before u think about it.

Take my advice. Just think outside the box when u are playing with me. Or if u want to play 2007 WW go back in time so u can crush Newbs or just hate on me and don't play with me.
This is why ppl don't like playing with me. They don't want to think omg what level is BATM on? I haven't finish learning WW 101.

Go to sleep man, u won't understand.

U get a 100% in 101 WW.
Let me know when u ready to step up to 201. Remember bring and open mind and nothing is what u think

BATM ALL OVER YOUR FACES

Elite post game

Darthe, the mere fact that any decent player ITT tells you that your play is bad should give you food for thoughts. It wouldnt really be problematic if you acknowledged your mistake and moved on. But your oblivious result-oriented gloating is the main reason I'm condescending towards you.

afaik the main reason is that you're french

Good idea

Derf how do you not have me on Skype

But no decent player has criticized me yet. Just you.

Also I won. Ive not only won but ive won every turvo ive ever played in. I doubt that I can keep that up for long but if I was some pleb who didnt have a clue what he was doing Id probably not get this lucky.

Face it, the only evidence ever brought against this game was that you were an ******* at EoD and youre a known ******* when getting bussed. It didnt matter this time but what that says is that youre the only reason town might have won this game because you created the only link between you and I.

Play better next time.

@Cory I dont know **** about skype. You had me on that dvc, add me.

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oh le snap!

lolCT

lolDerf

every new postgame is a warzone

bring back the thread of grievances

Darthe, let me try to be the voice of reason here.

I like you a lot already. I see a lot of my HARDNESS and AGGRESSIVE WOLFING and RUTHLESSNESS in your game. I like that.

In this instance, your CFD onto your teammate worked and got you the win.

Here's the thing. It also involved the village imploding and lynching the seer, meaning your n1 nk was just the peeked person, which makes that automatic. Wolves win this game something like 85% of the time that the seer gets lynched d1 anyway. Seriously.

Here's another thing: your job on day 1 is to get a mislynch, any mislynch, however you have to. Your teammate dying on day 1 is really bad compared to your teammate not dying. You want him to live. At the time you voted him it was a CFD he couldn't even respond to, and you had two villagers as 4-3 (I think) wagons. In any case, they were the established wagons. At that point, your job was done and you had no need to bus CT out of nowhere.

This is a different way of saying that your win equity was higher in the world where you didn't risk his life on day 1, than it was in this world. And, in EITHER case, "we" did your work for you by lynching the seer to almost guarantee a loss.

You are right in the sense that you got really clear, and that is indeed how HARD BUSSING works. But huber was pained about his decision, and he was aware that if you are a HARD BUSSER you were in turn not clear. BATM almost changed his mind by lol-posting-about-me in what was pretty clearly a genuine post in F3, even though I'd been nk'd. I'm a little surprised that huber didn't roll with that, even though it feels gross and sort of angle-shooty (it's a different issue about how BATM is the only human on earth who could manage to legitimately clear himself by posting about the wrong day at F3, but whatever).

That aggression that you showed against CT has its place, but the timing was poor in this particular game because he hadn't earned it. You couldn't have known we were going to CFD him, but then it shouldn't have mattered at all. He would've had 2 votes at EOD and been just fine while we looked like we'd abandoned the wagon against the seer to ensure the seer died.

You FPS'd (fancy play syndrome) and it worked, but that doesn't make it optimal. We try - and usually fail, but try - to be optimal.

In the previous game BATM was, from my perspective, probably SHC, and I still voted him over kcaw. That was not optimal strategically, and I knew that, and I tried to make a meta play that made sense to me, and I was wrong. I should've ABC'd it, which is what I normally do. It's the most +EV way to play.

ABC here was to just lynch either villager and move on to day 2 with your teammate's cred intact.

Now all that said, the upshot of this game is that we know your meta includes ruthless CFDs on your teammate, so you will get less credit for voting wolves in the future than you got in this game. I think the play you made has its place, but it needs to be rare in your game and your meta would probably be better if no one thought you'd ever do this (because as a villager you'd get more credit for voting wolves and as a wolf you could crack this out in a later game to secure a dicey win, whereas now we'll still be like "yeah he bussed Hoya d1 and should be clear, but he's ****ing Darthe, he busses erryone all the time").

Well only bhuber and Hoya, who are easily the best 2 players in this turbo.

If you dont count myself also I'm quite evidently in my non humble opinion a better and more experienced wolf than you are, but this is clearly subjective at this point so no need to compare dicksize.

Your cockiness is good you will fit well in here. Also I dont really expect remorse or even an epiphany from you at this point; so let's just say gg and gl next game.

Im not known to be "censored" when getting bussed since it is the first time it has happened that way. I've in fact always encouraged bussing and spewing, especially in turbo check the one with yg yesterday e.g., and get your facts straight. I'm actually known as a serial busser in here with double sided bussing. Batsignal UD. What you did was blind bussing out of the gates; which was bad for several reasons aforementioned, and moreover for minimal respect of your teammate.