lol rawrs

if wolves don't kill seer there there is a claim war at F5, if they kill seer there is a clear player

def -ev for wolves to kill seer there

yeah basically


also why i suck so much at villaging . i hate being wrong and getting yelled at on the internet. so beta

also when i call mucks a wolf

just listen ok?

You are my #1

Always know that

mutigers that was a tough f3

kruze balances his roles with inherent wolfishness imo and i still cant read him

all in good fun.

Night bros

God, you're ******ed.

There's always a chance that the seer has 0 live.

Also, in a claim war, I'd expect YG to own you or mucks regardless of who was seer and who was wolf.

I am not sure you have to be able to read him (or x) at F3 if you can read/clear the other person

You can redeem yourself in this thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...gnups-1425439/

sure but if you don't kill the seer there are 0 confirmed villas

if you kill the seer there is the possibility of 1 confirmed villa

but good job... def ev for wolves to kill seer lol

Also lol at saying YG... YG has no role in the theoretical EV conversation

wow

just wow

A) A claim battle at f5 almost always decides the games. A lot of times, the seer has the game locked at f5, so if the village makes the right call at f5, f3 is a cakewalk. Whereas if you do kill the seer, even with a clear villa, village has to guess right at f5 and f3

edit - A.5) Assuming the wolves did try to kill the seer night 1, there usually is a SHC player. So no, there are 0 confirmed villa. When a villager is lynched d1, wolves almost never fps the NK, so the SHC player ends up being a villager 99% of the time.

B) It's not impossible for the wolf to fake a claim with the same villager peek as the seer. SO if I'm wolf and say n1 - Kaze v, and you're the seer and say n0 - Kaze v, Kaze is clear.

Every time I think "Wow, cj is absurdly horrible" you take it one step further

So it is you.

Gd I knew it

LOL'd

I think he played great at f3 though.

but only after he said "if KruZe wins this f3 by lol catting I will flip" he had me convinced, until then kruze lol catting looked good you know.

Yep. Wp kaze

Goat etc

Gravs

One more point, the wolves' fake peeks can hurt their chances in a claim battle. Maybe you fake peeked YG v n1, and mucks fake peeked YG n0. I'd like to see that claim war go down.

mut goin into f3 i was confident u were villa...and i was equally confident u had me as villa... what tipped the scales?

So I think I played f7 poorly. I didnt really think Kaze was going to get lynched there, its not really wolfy for him to do what he did there.

besides that, you made the correct kill cause there was only 1 confirmed villager and no SHC players. Taking me to f5 is really terrible there just because of how obvious at f7 I had peeked mucks. You just dont win that very often.

wp wolves
sorry village

loling at kruze's avatar

like everyone should be doing what Kaze did there. Continue seer cover in a believable fashion through d2. Dont say you unclaim because some else also lays believable cover

i unclaimed because i didnt believe kaze's claim

villas dont usually lay cover with a wolf peek

cliffs:yg regressing to the mean