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04-14-2011 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrrr
brag: finally snake charmer'd
vwd
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04-17-2011 , 01:06 PM
In about 25 minutes the final of the inaugural Triplechain tournament will be played.

Alex (no. 2 seeded) will play yours truly (no. 5 seeded).

May teh force be with me.

Gogogogogogogogogogogogooo
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04-17-2011 , 03:17 PM
Congrats Gabe, first ever triplechain torunament winner. You have assured yourself a place in history.
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04-17-2011 , 03:25 PM
in before pacific triplechain, party triplechain, triplechain stars, Full tilt triplechain, the Ultimate Triplechain scandals, and the inevitable 'grey wednesday', when the CIA come and crush our triplechain livelihoods.
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04-17-2011 , 04:25 PM
lol kokiri

Americans would proclaim themselves WORLD CHAMPION now. Y'all need to address me now as Sir Gabethebabe.
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04-17-2011 , 04:46 PM
graaatz!

No shame in losing in the first round to the winner.
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04-17-2011 , 07:28 PM
4th in the challenge, also my best normal score!
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04-18-2011 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
4th in the challenge, also my best normal score!
WD!

I had a terrible score. My bonus went astray and I wasn´t able to complete the 5-chain when the late 5s came. Also the late 2s screwed me up. Basic strat was winning in this one. Awesome score by Radisto.

How would you guys place a first rack of 1-2-4-5-6?
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04-18-2011 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
WD!

I had a terrible score. My bonus went astray and I wasn´t able to complete the 5-chain when the late 5s came. Also the late 2s screwed me up. Basic strat was winning in this one. Awesome score by Radisto.

How would you guys place a first rack of 1-2-4-5-6?
i put 6 in the middle, 4 & 5 abutting the middle, 1 & 2 on the wings, but i'm not sure what is right.

Part of it depends on what your goal is, i think. If you want to maximise your expectation, then you need to keep a flexible strategy that can respond to subsequent rolls; if you are going balls to the wall, you lay out a biased position and hope the right rolls come in.

In the daily challenge, it's possible that the way to win is to take big risks in your placement, and hope that you get the perfect rolls. Because hedging your bets is going to lead to an ok but probably never winning score

i've been thinking about it a bit, of late, with the result that my scores have taken a nose dive as i have dismantled my game, and not rebuilt it yet.
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04-18-2011 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i put 6 in the middle, 4 & 5 abutting the middle, 1 & 2 on the wings, but i'm not sure what is right.
No understando

I agree with the 6 in the center square though, but where exactly go the 4 & 5?

Use dis:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . . . . . . . .
6 . . . . . . . . .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #
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04-18-2011 , 05:19 AM
6 E4
5 C5
4 G5
2 D2
1 D8

with a view to waiting to see whether to focus on 4s or 5s dependent on later rolls.

I have no real strategy for where to put the 5 relative to the 4 (i.e. C5 & G5 versus c5 & E7) or the 2 & the 1. TBH, i've been overhauling my bonus strategy and my chain strategy, like i say, so all bets are off at the minute. Essentially, though, I think I'm moving to a strategy that aims to make 2 chains, screw the third, but hopefully delay deciding which 2 chains to focus on as long as reasonably possible.
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04-18-2011 , 05:36 AM
Visualised Kokiri´s opinion:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # 2 . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . 6 . . . .
5 . . 5 . . . 4 . .
6 . . . . . . . . .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # 1 . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #
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04-18-2011 , 06:40 AM
# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . 6 . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 . . . 5 . . . . 2
6 . 1 . . . . . . .
7 # # # . 4 . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

That's how i started i think
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04-18-2011 , 06:41 AM
35,392

high score. I'm getting a little better, still pretty bad though
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04-18-2011 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i would usually put a 2 on the side, not the bottom, to begin with.
what's the reasoning behind this?
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04-18-2011 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BingoBango
what's the reasoning behind this?
sorry, i deleted that post.

um, good question. it's entirely possible i'm wrong. i think it's clearly best to put the 1's on the side, since then you can fit 2 in each segment without blighting any of the important squares which access the middle. So perhaps putting the 2 on the bottom is fine since it leaves the side options open which are important for 1's and also for bigger numbers - easier connections to the chains. The question is what you do when you start getting too many 2s - so once you're hitting 5+ in the first four rolls.
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04-18-2011 , 07:59 AM
38,304 just now, progress!
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04-18-2011 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
sorry, i deleted that post.

um, good question. it's entirely possible i'm wrong. i think it's clearly best to put the 1's on the side, since then you can fit 2 in each segment without blighting any of the important squares which access the middle. So perhaps putting the 2 on the bottom is fine since it leaves the side options open which are important for 1's and also for bigger numbers - easier connections to the chains. The question is what you do when you start getting too many 2s - so once you're hitting 5+ in the first four rolls.
I agree with the 1s on the sides. My main issue with putting the 2s on the sides is that you handcuff yourself to 1 possible spot in the square to match that 2 with later on. This is assuming you want to keep all the spots connected to the middle squares open. When you put it at the bottom, you have 2 possible locations and imo you get more flexibility with the 1s and 2s.

Hitting 5+ 2s in the first four rolls is rare enough that I don't worry about it too much. When it does happen, I match up a set of 2s or put one in the middle. If I keep on getting 2s after that, I don't usually have issues with too many 2s unless you get up to a bonus of 20+
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04-18-2011 , 08:50 AM
You could place 1-2-4-5-6 like this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . 5 . # # #
4 . . . . . . . 1 .
5 2 . . 6 . . . . .
6 . . . . . . . . .
7 # # # . 4 . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

Similarly to Donk, but I think slightly better.
1) You wanted 6-es to be able to make a full chain. If you place them outside of the middle you have a good possibility it will end up as the inner minor chain, which usually only covers 4 areas. So therefore I put the 6 in the middle to make it the inner major chain.

2) I put the 1 on the correct side, Donk on the incorrect side. We both have a number in D5, the inner major chain. If the inner major chain is going to be D5-E4, you can place 3 1s in the left zone: A4-B6-C4. If the inner major chain is going to be D5-E6, you can place 3 1s in the left area like this: A6-B4-C6. So it is better not to place 1s in the left area and thereby committing. Place the 2 in A5 and you can later decide how to place the 1s.

3) If my outer major chain is going to be 5s, I want to place a 1 in H4. If my outer major chain is going to be 4s, I want to place my 1 in H6. That would allow me to place 3 1s in the right zone for the occasion that 6s do not complete (allowing me to place a 1 in G4 or G6). I have to guess here and since I prefer to make my outer chain 5s, I place the 1 in H4.

Now I don´t like the guess I have to make in 3). So the actual correct solution imo is this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . 2 . # # #
2 # # # . . . # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . 1 .
5 . . 5 6 . . . . .
6 . . . . . . . . .
7 # # # . 4 . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . . . # # #

This maintains the flexibility of making 4s or 5s the outer major chain, but whatever happens, the inner major chain can be made D5-E6, making H4 the correct square for the 1 in the right area, allowing 3 1s to be placed there in case 6s do not complete (alongside the 3 1s that can be placed in the left area).

Note that the 4s and 5s can be switched. Note that placing the 5 in G5 (not C5) is inferior, because if the outer major chain is going to be 4s, you will have a badly placed 6.

Final note: placing the 2 in D2 (or F2) and not E1 is not bad and may even be slightly better. It allows you to better handle a 2-flood, but also has its risks, because you need another 2 in F2 that may not come. A 2 on the side has always to be complemented with a 2 on the other side. If you place only one 2, it should be at the bottom (to allow place for two 1s). A lone 2 on a side allows only space for 3 bonus enhancing numbers (2 2s and a single 1).
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04-18-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
bo-um - 51k
still never managed the elusive triple snaake
posted this on the 23rd of march. Pretty sure it was the 15th best unaugmented score of all time when i recorded it. It is currently... the 15th best score of all time.

Top 10 for the last 24 hours ranges from 45k down to 41k, but no one has beaten 51k (which was totally no skill/freak roll so very much not a brag) in almost a month.
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04-18-2011 , 11:23 PM
SOOOO UNFAIR!!!!!

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04-18-2011 , 11:26 PM
Still my best score though! though losing 6.5k in the last square HURTS!
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04-19-2011 , 02:07 AM
ouch that was a potential 54K donk

I think if you go high score hunting you need to make two pairs of twos in at least one zone. You placed your initial 2s all at the bottom, I think I would prefer this:

# A B C D E F G H I
1 # # # . . . # # #
2 # # # 2 . 2 # # #
3 # # # . . . # # #
4 . . . . . . . . .
5 2 . . . . . . . .
6 . . . . . . . . .
7 # # # . . . # # #
8 # # # . . . # # #
9 # # # . 2 . # # #
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04-19-2011 , 05:56 AM
BAM

22680 with one die



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