Reread late yesterday Chims conversation with Atakdog.

Then note my dumb post and Chim going nuts foaming at the mouth saying "zomg Matrix is wofl - epic fail - would lynch him before I lynched Z"

Then put yourself in myshoes as a villager today hoping like hell that Chims peeks as listed are correct and that he was trying to play Chicken or out level atakdog somehow.

I realise Chims view carries weight because he is a good WW player for one and for another that villagers often incorrectly assign the seers views more weight than they ought to have whomever the seer is.

Chim is wrong about me, I can only point to the fact that he was wrong about others in this game as well, Jeremy for one.

Oh and you're still a wolf iggy.

If you prefer a quieter village vote to lynch me.

If you think having a village full of UTR players left by the time we get to the end game is best vote me.

if the reverse is true vote Nich.

No....not faking.....as bad as that sounds, it's true.

I'm leaning toward voting Nich -- I can't see that the cost of being wrong is very different one way or the other, and the analysis if 64's posting style re fellow wolves is fairly strong.

One of the NKs was strongly implying that Matrix was a wolf and if it's between Matrix and Nich, I still think Nich's much more likely to fake seer as a villager. Especially in the fashion he did it (all village picks) which would seem to suggest that he was trying to keep it believable for the wolves rather than that he was trying to implicate someone.

Part of me would really like to be rid of Zhaorx and his incessant accusations. I can't even counter the arguments, because there's never anything to them besides "ZOMG wolf I can always recognize vanillager atak he's howling wolf wolf wolf ZOMG!" Today I listened to him, articulated his case better than he was doing... and he still wants to lynch me.

Next game, I think I'm just going to tell everyone how SUPER CLEAR I am. That seems to work.

Which NK implied Matrix?

and the arguments that i'm a wolf because i faked seer is better?

I AM SUPER CLEAR.

Works for me

Seriously, time is running out. Which way is this village going?

Assume for a moment that the following people are ALL clear (indulge me)

Atak
Zhaorx
Matrix
KM
BEG

what does that leave us with as possible wolf teams??

My argument is that villagers faking seer is hugely anti village both in the short and longer term and should be punishable by turbo lynching any and all fakers.

this line of thought is dumb

I prefer Nich. If people don't wanna lynch Nich I think I prefer M1ke over Matrix re-reading now.
I'm expecting one of those two to be a wolf going off of sixfour's posting style some more.

Yeah, I think I agree with this. I'm going to leave my vote where it is, I'm pretty sure.

nich

FCBL - you forgot super clear Swiitch.

I am already running on the assumption that those players are villagers.

My wolf list:

Wofl(in order)
Sun Tzu (his reactions and continued question dodging yesterday very suspect, everything he hasposted today makes him seem more wolfy)
Nichp (I am sure one of Aries/Nich is a wolf and happier it's Nich and not Aries ATM)
iggy (very wolfy yesterday imo, even wolfier today)

If Aard and or Eleatic are wolves I don't see anyway we can win this game, barring either of them slipping up bigtime. So lets move those to to "clear villagers" as well for now.

If Nich is a villager Aries and Well Named are both wolves.

If m1ke is a villager I think that suggests Aries is a wolf - I don't think we get the same interactions between m1ke/Aries if they are both wolves.

It's quite possible that *both* Aries and Nich are wolves

as it stands using your "clear" list my wolf list is one short.

Something I just thought of:
My post #1690 suggests that if M1ke and me are v, Matrix is v. So from my point of view (or if you believe I'm a villager) M1ke v >>> Matrix v.

Sixfour said that zhaorx, matrix, and M1ke are villagers. If sixfour is consistent with his posting style as a wolf, then one of zhaorx, matrix, and m1ke is a wolf. I really think zhaorx is a villager so that means one of matrix and m1ke is a wolf.

Putting these two together, that means either M1ke/Matrix is either w/v or w/w. Most likely sixfour would only list one wolf so I'm guessing w/v.

So I know this is assuming a lot:
1) Wolf Matrix wouldn't suggest not resolving the wagons if the wagons were v/v
2) sixfour didn't list all villagers as his 3 villagers
3) zhaorx is a villager
4) I'm a villager

But under those 4 assumptions M1ke is a wolf. So my vote is going to Nich or M1ke, whoever is "winning"

[ 0 ] aardvarksrus Votes
[ 0 ] AriesRam Votes m1ke
[ 1 ] atakdog Votes
[ 0 ] Brown Eyed Girl Votes zhaorx
[ 0 ] Caldarooni Votes
[ 0 ] Eleatic Stranger Votes
[ 0 ] FCBLComish Votes iggymcfly
[ 2 ] iggymcfly Votes Matrix
[ 0 ] KyrosMother Votes zhaorx
[ 1 ] m1ke Votes Nicholasp27
[ 1 ] Matrix Votes Nicholasp27
[ 5 ] Nicholasp27 Votes
[ 0 ] Sun Tzu Votes Nicholasp27
[ 0 ] Swiitch Votes iggymcfly
[ 0 ] well named Votes Nicholasp27
[ 0 ] XXsooted Votes Nicholasp27
[ 2 ] zhaorx Votes atakdog

Or Aries and Mike.

Doesn't it make you a little uneasy that your #1 Wolf suspect just voted for Nich? Aries and Mike both have been close to lynch several times and slipped away.

I thought Swiitch was going to have an anyurism over voting for Mike....he kept saying..."Can we vote Mike now......Mike slipped away again."

I don't think I will vote for Nich. I'm going with either Z, Aries or Mike. I'm on Z right now, but would be willing to switch to one of the other two.

i think nichp might be the worst lynch possible today

We need to lynch matrix before we can think about nich.

Matrix

fzck this always happens. I'm so sure about my read until everyone starts voting for him

worst possible?????

how is Nich the worst possible lynch?

BEG.

Had Sun posted some reasoning behind his Nich vote, then maybe. Given that he just posted a naked vote - then not so much no.

m1ke does sound like a good choice for a wofl going off of XXsooteds reasoning - certainly Swiitch was after m1ke pretty much the entire game.

Aries thinks m1ke is "the wolfiest player alive"

I can see m1ke being a wofl based on his posts and some of the analysis - but the NK's suggest otherwise.

If one of m1ke, me, Z is a wolf and the sixfour analysis holds water then from my POV as I know I'm a villager tone suggests m1ke over Z (as much as I still want to lynch Z) - and NK's are 50/50 - Jeremy NK says Z is a villager - ZT's NK says m1ke is a villager.

don't understand why anybody would vote nichp before matrix.

I really don't like that our two confirmed villagers are on me of all people. This nich lynch is definitely wolf-led.