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11-08-2010 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Ok. I took a walk and I feel better now. I apologize if I sounded like an *******.

I am simply saying that in the context of this game if I were a wolf that had gotten to f5 with a partner and I had the two villagers that know me the best (Pyro and wahoo) calling me villagery then there is no way I say to my partner "You know what, let's bus each other. Since two people think I'm a villager then you'll probably be lynched and then I'll be even more super-duper clear!"

But I think you know this and are just trying to tilt me. <3.
you said earlier, iirc that you were doubting that I was a wolf. what is making you change your mind? do you think i'm being wolfy? do you think that i wasn't serious about wanting mets lynched? do you think mets wasn't serious about wanting me lynched? do you think that the fight between chris and me was staged? do you think i would go ahead and systematically nk people who felt good about me being a villager? do you think i would reverse some of the reads that i've had this game, i.e. WN yesterday as a wolf? there are so many things that i've done this game that don't make sense if i were a wolf. i know you are busy, however if you look, i'm still reading the thread and trying to figure out wtf is going on. I'm trying to figure out different interactions and come up with conclusions. I am not arbitrarily stating so-and-so is a villager and i'm not voting him, like you have done with pyro. if you're a villager, then your blinders regarding pyro will probably cost us the game.
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11-08-2010 , 06:31 PM
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11-08-2010 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
So

I think it's pyro/elliot
Karnel thinks it's elliot + one of me/pyro
Wahoo thinks it's 2 of me/pyro/karnel
Elliot thinks it's me/karnel
Pyro thinks it's me/karnel

right?
and I don't exclude the possibility of wahoo as wolf, either, but he's pretty well verging on the line of "if he's a wolf, he wins".
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11-08-2010 , 06:35 PM
i keep alternating wanting to clear pyro and wanting to clear karnel
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11-08-2010 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
So

I think it's pyro/elliot
Karnel thinks it's elliot + one of me/pyro
Wahoo thinks it's 2 of me/pyro/karnel
Elliot thinks it's me/karnel
Pyro thinks it's me/karnel

right?
put another way

everyone except you thinks it's you
everyone except you and Karnel thinks it's Karnel
everyone except me and Elliot thinks it's me
only you and Karnel think it's Elliot
no one thinks it's Wahoo except as some secondary possibility
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11-08-2010 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by karnelchik
you said earlier, iirc that you were doubting that I was a wolf. what is making you change your mind? do you think i'm being wolfy? do you think that i wasn't serious about wanting mets lynched? do you think mets wasn't serious about wanting me lynched? do you think that the fight between chris and me was staged? do you think i would go ahead and systematically nk people who felt good about me being a villager? do you think i would reverse some of the reads that i've had this game, i.e. WN yesterday as a wolf? there are so many things that i've done this game that don't make sense if i were a wolf. i know you are busy, however if you look, i'm still reading the thread and trying to figure out wtf is going on. I'm trying to figure out different interactions and come up with conclusions. I am not arbitrarily stating so-and-so is a villager and i'm not voting him, like you have done with pyro. if you're a villager, then your blinders regarding pyro will probably cost us the game.
Um, when you are a villager at must lynch and someone is trying to get you lynched then yeah you tend to think they are more likely to be a wolf. Particularly when the reasoning is shaky at best and disingenuous at worst.

I do not have blinders on w.r.t Pyro. But he thought the exact same thing that I did about WN's "here are my partners" post at pretty much the same time. That is nearly impossible as a wolf imo. Forget that it was wrong -- a wolf *knows* that its wrong and so automatically dismisses it as one of a zillion fluff posts. Only someone actually hunting wolves thinks that.
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11-08-2010 , 06:43 PM
i said wtf about it too and brought it up and said that we should lynch WN, but I changed my opinion regarding him based off of other posts he made. Why didn't you clear me for that?

if that's the sole reason for you clearing pyro, then lol you
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11-08-2010 , 06:46 PM
Pyro were you in the Hippy pirates game?
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11-08-2010 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
put another way

everyone except you thinks it's you
everyone except you and Karnel thinks it's Karnel
everyone except me and Elliot thinks it's me
only you and Karnel think it's Elliot
no one thinks it's Wahoo except as some secondary possibility
or put another another way

only you and Karnel are clearing Karnel over Elliot

Karnel >>> Elliot, as villager

so from where I'm sitting, that's either a wolfpair pushing for a longshot mislynch today, b/c there's no way to win it at F3 tomorrow under these circumstances...

...or, a wolf and a misguided villa. in which case, gg us, b/c at this point, that would mean that wahoo was the second wolf, and no one has him up for consideration.
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11-08-2010 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Pyro were you in the Hippy pirates game?
no. but I feel like I've been asked that before

there was something about a parrot, that's all I remember
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11-08-2010 , 06:49 PM
why?
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11-08-2010 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
or put another another way

only you and Karnel are clearing Karnel over Elliot

Karnel >>> Elliot, as villager
pyro may have just ****ed up bad.



in before it's wolfy that i am harking over this
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11-08-2010 , 06:51 PM
although i do agree that I'm an awesome villager, and I dare say that I'm the only one working on trying to solve this game rather than just jibber-jabbering here. FFS, no one else is even trying to reread the therad. I know that I'm not going to be able to read the whole thing, but at least I'm on page 9. doing some sort of work/anaylsis. I know I should have probably done this all earlier, but I'm a busy guy and at least I'm doing it when it counts
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11-08-2010 , 06:51 PM
?
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11-08-2010 , 06:51 PM
just paranoia. I just took another walk and was lamenting that it took so long for me to find out I was wrong about WN. The last time I was so sure but ended up being wrong was in that game and the guy I was wrong about was BBB. But after BBB got mislynched and I reoriented I figured out the game with 4 wolves left.

(Then I let it get away but that's another story. )
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11-08-2010 , 06:53 PM
can you explain karnel?
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11-08-2010 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by karnelchik
although i do agree that I'm an awesome villager, and I dare say that I'm the only one working on trying to solve this game rather than just jibber-jabbering here. FFS, no one else is even trying to reread the therad. I know that I'm not going to be able to read the whole thing, but at least I'm on page 9. doing some sort of work/anaylsis. I know I should have probably done this all earlier, but I'm a busy guy and at least I'm doing it when it counts
A) Wong, I've also been looking particularly at the voting the day chris died and yesterday; and

B) You'll forgive me if I'm not impressed by "work/analysis" that is leading you to the conclusion that I am a wolf.
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11-08-2010 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
here's how things look in pyrovision. no woof lists, sorry.

tilty or "off"

andy
atak
bigger
mets

would love to clear but too thin

BBB
Elliot
legend
WN
TL*

willing to believe are villa

esse
wahoo

back and forth but what have we resolved

derwi

no read-dar as yet

birdman
bsball
chris
karnelchik

* would be willing to believe is villa, though, too
pyro, why did you feel the need to make this post. you do realize it says absolutely nothing, right? it sounds like you just wanted to make a list, but you were afraid to out people so you jsut said "tilty or off" "maybe avillager" "i could believe are vilager" "don't know their game" some bullshti or other
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11-08-2010 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wahoopride
can you explain karnel?
+1
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11-08-2010 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
A) Wong, I've also been looking particularly at the voting the day chris died and yesterday; and

B) You'll forgive me if I'm not impressed by "work/analysis" that is leading you to the conclusion that I am a wolf.
are you even reading my posts? i don't think i've even quoted any of your posts. I've been drawing conclusions based off of other peoples' posts that make them more/less likely to be wolves.

please tell me what the voting from the day that chris died tell you? you voted a villa, i voted a villa, pyro voted a villa, derwi voted for a villa, wahoo voted for chris.

i didn't vote for WN even though i was suspicious of him prior to that time and he was suspicious of me BECAUSE I CHANGED MY OPINION OF HIM. that's what villagers do. they have open minds. wolves are close minded because they have to lynch certain people in order to win.
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11-08-2010 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by karnelchik
pyro, why did you feel the need to make this post. you do realize it says absolutely nothing, right? it sounds like you just wanted to make a list, but you were afraid to out people so you jsut said "tilty or off" "maybe avillager" "i could believe are vilager" "don't know their game" some bullshti or other
that's my D1 list. I list 2 villagers on it. I list 4 people who were weird but not necessarily wolfs - the only one there who ultimately was a wolf was mets. I list 5 people who I've played enough with that I hope to get a read on later. I list derwi for our back & forth. And I list 4 people who, essentially, I've never played with. I've played with bsball and birdman but I really have no meta with them.

and oh, look, it's a seer cover post.
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11-08-2010 , 07:03 PM
quick, who's my peek
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11-08-2010 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
?
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Originally Posted by wahoopride
can you explain karnel?
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
or put another another way

only you and Karnel are clearing Karnel over Elliot

Karnel >>> Elliot, as villager
what's there to explain? he's saying all game that elliot is a villager and now he randomly says that I'm a better villager than elliot? why would i be a better villager then elliot if elliot is able to clear himself in pyro's eyes and I'm not. clearly i wouldn't be the better villager. unless i'm misinterpreting what he's trying to say
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11-08-2010 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by karnelchik
what's there to explain? he's saying all game that elliot is a villager and now he randomly says that I'm a better villager than elliot? why would i be a better villager then elliot if elliot is able to clear himself in pyro's eyes and I'm not. clearly i wouldn't be the better villager. unless i'm misinterpreting what he's trying to say
this
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11-08-2010 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyromaniac
quick, who's my peek
no ****ign clue. esse? tl?
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