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02-26-2021 , 12:52 PM

#5801

accobra_kid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

suqata is probably v, right?

I think so. I still have to assess which role is more powerful to them -- dayvig or UD's. Why else would they make the last second push to get Suqata8 lynched when we shifted to UD?

The dayvig half their remaining killing power, they've got to keep the role safe and send it deep. Monte checks both those boxes because he's on the Suq wagon already.

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02-26-2021 , 12:54 PM

#5802

accobra_kid

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Sorry, that should read that Monte was on the UD wagon.

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02-26-2021 , 12:56 PM

#5803

Adam33

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bakes

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...r#post56928320
ladd
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...r#post56932532

need 1 more. doesn't fit with anyone's claim, so

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02-26-2021 , 12:58 PM

#5804

Adam33

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there you go, CT

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02-26-2021 , 01:01 PM

#5805

Montecore

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Alright I'm back

DrZ, I have not claimed to be clear, I've just claimed my role (which xander confirmed) - the only part in question is my affiliation

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02-26-2021 , 01:05 PM

#5806

Montecore

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Just in case anyone forgot, xander peeked my full role:

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

Monte's role delays people NAs by 24 hours

Monte says he targeted you n1 which would mean n1 you get no result and n2 you get the result you were expecting n1 (plus whatever n2 result you were expecting)

You said that your n2 NAs were not affected

it means that either you're lying about that or he's lying about targeting you

[QUOTE=xander biscuits;56934977]

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I didn't just out the info without hypothetical discussions

I outed the role but not the fact that it was Monte's (several people said it sounded like a wolf role)
I completely separately stated that I thought Monte was a wolf and a bunch of people agreed (including Apoc)

At this point I joined the dots

Then a bunch of the same people had 2nd thoughts because they thought it didn't all add up for some reason

It's out there now and I didn't bring it up wolfily and bringing it up again is certainly not wolfy

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

Monte's role is one that targets someone each night and their NA gets delayed 24 hours

I do not know if it's a village or a wolf role, but I know that it's his and I outed it this morning (D3)

Yesterday (D2) Monte outed that he visited Doctor Zeus n1

If this was true then Doctor Zeus would not have received a result n1 and would have received double results n2 (his n1 and n2 actions)

Doctor Zeus said that his n2 action was normal and didn't mention n1 actions at all

Doctor Zeus was very quick to imply that maybe Monte was blocked

That sounds like the sort of thing a wolf would do.

A villager would say "oh dang, I guess Monte's lying. Does that mean he's a wolf?"

A wolf would say "here's a way that it's possible everyone is telling the truth:..." (couldn't possibly ruffle feathers and thunderdome a villager)

I think that Doctor Zeus is a wolf and that Monte is a villager

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits

oh hey, look at this reaction from a villager

I say one of Monte and DZ is a liar and Monte reacts with this

very villa response

sorry for blowing up your spot

I blame bop and adam for that one

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02-26-2021 , 01:10 PM

#5807

Doctor Zeus

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Ok cool then.

You, me, Adam, Suq maaaaaybe CT need to be everyones focus. Which is like half the bloody game i know.

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02-26-2021 , 01:11 PM

#5808

Adam33

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ty monte. dunno what to make of that

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02-26-2021 , 01:11 PM

#5809

Montecore

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I think suq is a villager

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02-26-2021 , 01:13 PM

#5810

Adam33

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oh **** didn't the paradoxes just reset? hold on

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02-26-2021 , 01:14 PM

#5811

Montecore

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Originally Posted by Adam33

ty monte. dunno what to make of that

He literally posted my entire role and the Google definition of my role name and then flipped village backup

I'm definitely an action delayer; the only question is whether I'm a villager or a wolf. As I said last night, if you look at the complexity of all the wolf roles, it seems pretty obvious that my role is not useful or involved enough to be a wolf role (outside only part of it being peekable or something along those lines)

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02-26-2021 , 01:15 PM

#5812

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Originally Posted by Time Travel Mod

Massachusetts. You have fond memories of Massachusetts, growing up.

The bay. The turnpike. That other thing.

Most of all, you remember rooting your heart out for the underdog Patriots. Back in your original time, it was one of your great joys. You didn't care that they were the laughing stock of football, the only team in the 238-year history of the GFL never to have won a Superior Bowl. They were crappy, and they were ugly, and they were yours. The lovable losers.

Maybe one day.

Timestream instability is dangerously high.

Paradox levels rising.

Failsafes crumbling.

I think this is about to get a whole lot worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Spoiler:

sun tzu couldn't have been using this for cover if it was converted into a day vig, right? he was in east berlin?

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02-26-2021 , 01:15 PM

#5813

Montecore

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Actually, now that I think about it

How does the fact that I delayed irtm last night affect the probability that he's the makeup artist

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02-26-2021 , 01:17 PM

#5814

Adam33

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Originally Posted by Montecore

not interested in unpeekable theories, game was 48 with 2 doppels so we're already at 26% with 12 wolves, think i'd shake your hand etc.

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02-26-2021 , 01:18 PM

#5815

Adam33

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Originally Posted by Montecore

Actually, now that I think about it

How does the fact that I delayed irtm last night affect the probability that he's the makeup artist

his action last night would be the one to manipulate his reveal today, so it's heavily in your favor + IRTM = makeup artist favor

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02-26-2021 , 01:19 PM

#5816

Adam33

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monte your action doesn't delay things performed ON your target, does it

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02-26-2021 , 01:19 PM

#5817

Montecore

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Accobra - claimed night vig
CT - whysper peeked
LKJ - whysper peeked
RJ - morphed/mutated into future vig; domed NL n4
Sun - claimed dayvig; shot xkf and irtm
Adam - some power that enabled an additional lunch (used on AMI)

The rest
Monte - claimed action delayer (role confirmed by v!xander)
DrZ - claimed vanilla
Suq - claimed watcher/NA price modifier

Wolf
Bop

Yeah? What did I miss?

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02-26-2021 , 01:20 PM

#5818

Montecore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam33

monte your action doesn't delay things performed ON your target, does it

No, it delays the actions they perform themselves

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02-26-2021 , 01:21 PM

#5819

Sun Tzu

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yeah, knowing monte's role and that he's definitely not the day vig makes me much less worried about him

assuming there were 12 wolves, how many should be left after bopolis?

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02-26-2021 , 01:25 PM

#5820

Doctor Zeus

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"Price modifier".

Such a boring role.

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02-26-2021 , 01:26 PM

#5821

Montecore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

yeah, knowing monte's role and that he's definitely not the day vig makes me much less worried about him

assuming there were 12 wolves, how many should be left after bopolis?

Dead confirmed wolves: AMI, binkles, dya, johnny, NL, pry, wahoo, UD

Dead with the millerized role: filthy, irtm

So 8 confirmed dead wolves, 9 with bop, and irtm seems pretty safe to assume as a wolf given his suq snipe

So 1-2 left after tonight hopefully?

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02-26-2021 , 01:27 PM

#5822

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus

Ok cool then.

You, me, Adam, Suq maaaaaybe CT need to be everyones focus. Which is like half the bloody game i know.

I am a peeked villager. Don’t worry about me.

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02-26-2021 , 01:28 PM

#5823

Doctor Zeus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Montecore

Accobra - claimed night vig
CT - whysper peeked (falsifiable)
LKJ - whysper peeked (absolutely verified)
RJ - morphed/mutated into future vig; domed NL n4
Sun - claimed dayvig; shot xkf and irtm (adam thinks could be some weird **** going on)
Adam - some power that enabled an additional lunch (used on AMI)

The rest
Monte - claimed action delayer (role confirmed by v!xander)
DrZ - claimed vanilla
Suq - claimed watcher/NA price modifier

Wolf
Bop

Yeah? What did I miss?

Correct. Added further comments in italics.

I wonder if theres a way to go over the old dead wolves/villagers and verify some of the sun & accobra kills.

I personally see 0 times where sgt is a wolf. Doesnt seem worth investigating

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02-26-2021 , 01:29 PM

#5824

Adam33

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i don't think there's much room for weird **** from sun. day vig from the west not the east, and somebody did have to kill xkf in the first place

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02-26-2021 , 01:29 PM

#5825

Doctor Zeus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by confirmedtroll

I am a peeked villager. Don’t worry about me.

You yourself said it could be false didnt you?

Your my currrent villa captain...just trying to be complete.

Also....worth adding that wolves literally tried to kill me.

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