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09-04-2020 , 03:21 PM

#5001

Jsmith27

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Originally Posted by wahoopride

Seems like you are disrespecting her wolf game here.

maybe birdman thinks only men can adjust their games on a dime

yikes, sorry to all the women on this forum, that type of mindset does not represent pog

i believe that UD could easily decide to be more aggressive and use her dislike of a person as a good reaosn to shoot them, that is a crafty and intelligent WW play

props to UD< on the other hand, if she did that as a villager it is a really bad play, i have more respect for her game tho

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09-04-2020 , 03:21 PM

#5002

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by benneh

I tend to think UD is a villager but i really do not understand the idea that she could never be a wolf here

I think "never" is overstating my view, just very unlikely

Like she would have had to come into this game saying "I'm going to play completely different as a wolf than I ever have" which is not easy to do?

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09-04-2020 , 03:21 PM

#5003

Montecore

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McCoy having a vig seems pretty unlikely, so BATM is lying about something

Shocking developments, I realize

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09-04-2020 , 03:22 PM

#5004

benneh

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader

I think we should shoot shortline99.

i, too, would like to hear your reasoning on this

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09-04-2020 , 03:22 PM

#5005

Uglydelicious

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Originally Posted by benneh

I tend to think UD is a villager but i really do not understand the idea that she could never be a wolf here

I’m not clear. But my shot on CF was not alignment based, judge me going forward or judge me before that debacle. Thanks.

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09-04-2020 , 03:22 PM

#5006

Tokyo!!

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

You could try reading the thread? Dude was legit harassing me, I either killed him or I was subbing out. Considering the risk was maybe losing a villager early in a huge mash I thought it was worth it. Still do. I did nothing wrong and the guy accused me of over reacting (to inning an event that wasn’t real when I laughed and said it was a mistake), called me princess, a screaming drama queen, and told me to shut up. One person outright stood up for me and everyone else was silent. Yeah, I’m shooting that guy or leaving the game. Fine if you think I’m a wolf, but find a better reason.

Yes I read that part of the thread. I don’t disagree that he was being a jerk or that you should be rightfully upset. If you want to leave the game over it, that is your right.

I just think that is convenient cover for shooting at someone that the thread consensus said villager. It might be exactly as you state. But it might not. I remember distinctly in HP where someone was like “if you shoot at me I’m shooting back100%!!!” - I think it was shortline - and he did shoot back at an obvious villa for shooting at him. lo and behold he was a wolf.

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09-04-2020 , 03:22 PM

#5007

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Montecore

She's won at least one wolf game

And it seems like she already understand the job when you're wolfing is not to replicate your village game but to kill villagers

Seems like she's doing fine to me

I don't recall every saying she is a bad wolf?

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09-04-2020 , 03:22 PM

#5008

shortline99

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I’m going to be taking off in ten minutes so please don’t do a dumb in ITA2 if I can’t participate

We have a couple ok shots among the wounded. We have my existing wolf list, all of whom are suddenly not posting. We can also shoot at charry, who is a zero poster still. We can shoot at BobO and BATM for lying. Lots of options that aren’t stupid yolos. Plz stay focused and maybe we just kill wolves finally

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09-04-2020 , 03:23 PM

#5009

benneh

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

counterpoint: she is relatively new to werewolf, right?

if i went back and looked at my first, second, third, fourth, and fifth games, I don't think i'd recognize a trend in my meta in any of those games. i think i'd see 4 or 5 different players almost.

being new is the easiest time to change your 'meta'

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09-04-2020 , 03:23 PM

#5010

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Yea the reason I wasn't gung ho at the borg is

There is some suggestion we are primarily after Kirk's enemies and I'm not sure the borg are in TOS
Theoretically the Borg seek order. Obviously they are evil but assuming there is at least 1 normal wolf faction, Borg should be more true neutral than anti-villa.

Maybe they could even be our Jalad when we get to Tanagra

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09-04-2020 , 03:23 PM

#5011

Jsmith27

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I don't recall every saying she is a bad wolf?

wow shroop?

ever, not every?

birdman in panic mode?

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5012

Treep

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so apparently I slept through ITAs.
skimmed EOD and thread after ITA reveal, anything I might have missed?

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5013

Montecore

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I don't recall every saying she is a bad wolf?

I was responding to wahoo's implication, not your response

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5014

Uglydelicious

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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!

That was shortline in the HP game.

Sure to all this, judge me from before the debacle and onward then.

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5015

benneh

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

I’m not clear. But my shot on CF was not alignment based, judge me going forward or judge me before that debacle. Thanks.

i can't separate your shot on CF from how i read you tho

you would be more likely to do that as a wolf than as a villager, even if you decided that the shot would be based on NAI reasoning

yaknowwhatimean?

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5016

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by benneh

yeah I guess this is fair

so maybe call it a villa lean then

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5017

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Originally Posted by shortline99

Short answer, no

Longer question: what do you think xander’s win condition actually is? Do you believe any of what he is posting? Are you saying I am playing proBorg and therefore am a borg? Or are you saying I’m just evil and you don’t care what flavor?

My logic has been explained multiple times. Your logic on me does not flow.

I don't know xander's win condition. I do know that it is vanishingly small that it aligns with my own. And frankly, I don't want it to align with mine.

Yes, you are playing pro-Borg. If you have explained your logic, I can't find it, which is partly on me as I am having to post this from my chromebook in bed.

I don't see any reason why we should accept xander at face value.

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09-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

#5018

Jsmith27

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Aside from setting aside birdmans lack of respect for UD growing as a player, her shooting fox is obviously wolfy lol

and she should be on the ITA shot list at 5 est

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09-04-2020 , 03:25 PM

#5019

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by wahoopride

There is some suggestion we are primarily after Kirk's enemies and I'm not sure the borg are in TOS

This is a good point. Borg are Picard's enemies.

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09-04-2020 , 03:25 PM

#5020

Uglydelicious

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Originally Posted by shortline99

Safe flight

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09-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

#5021

insanity31

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vmf seems like a wolf

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09-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

#5022

Jsmith27

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader

I don't know xander's win condition. I do know that it is vanishingly small that it aligns with my own. And frankly, I don't want it to align with mine.

Yes, you are playing pro-Borg. If you have explained your logic, I can't find it, which is partly on me as I am having to post this from my chromebook in bed.

I don't see any reason why we should accept xander at face value.

VR reading like a villa to me. nice aggression

i find this tone she takes here is very hard for wolves to take and i think its the toughest for me to do as a wolf

its like a villagery defiance, i started to bold where i see the villagery defiance reasd, but its the whole post, is bolded... its all that tone

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09-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

#5023

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Lol everyone calling for shots on me— very wolfy. I’m not the one who started that fight (although I ended it *flex*) and it seems you’re all just trying to bait a hardclaim. So far vmf, benneh, Tokyo I think do not look good from their reactions here.

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09-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

#5024

benneh

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i don't like the game design trend of withholding information in werewolf games. i feel like this idea has picked up over the last few years.

creates for stale games IMO

just one mans opinion to digest for future game designers