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09-30-2009 , 09:02 AM

#776

Kukraprout

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I'm kinda tempted to vote atak too, because he is the straightforward n1 NK as a villager, and because he is one of those that I think are most likely to snipe the seer n1 as wolf.
but at the same time now that wolves are done seer-hunting we can wait and see if he gets NKed in the next few nights before going after him.

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09-30-2009 , 09:03 AM

#777

Andynan

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

meh- losing the seer shouldn't be a disaster and there are a bunch of villagers in this game

although it does sort of suck that he was my only real wolf suspect

but instead of the fail that happened in the last game after I died, in this game we should just lynch atakdog rightaway, since I didn't kill him and I think wn is good

atakdog

I understand you are in pain bc we lost the seer but failboating it up is not gonna bring it back.

1) seer is gone, if atak is a wolf he can't really do any further damage by seerhunting, he's not going anywhere basically
2) wolves didnt even get a shot at atak yet if they were seer hunting, let them feel the pressure of atak if atak is villa
3) if atak is villa this would be epic fail

Can we not try and do something productive today?

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09-30-2009 , 09:03 AM

#778

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

and asking people to list their fake seer hints is silly

its not something that every villager does or even should do

well if you dont have one thats fine

but I would like the added info of looking at everyones fake peeks

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09-30-2009 , 09:04 AM

#779

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

no-- this is the same sort of ******ed thinking that let soah live for too long in the last game

at the very least just vote him. you have days to change it

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09-30-2009 , 09:04 AM

#780

Kukraprout

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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911

Possible AAO= Villager peek here
except he also adds in deriwok=villager

so its probably in another post

possible peek here but Favorite is not the same as a villager

Here we go this is why he died

He was basically saying he does not think Norse is a wolf and than talks about it as if he was a seer peek.

no way an experienced ww player like Hitch would leave this behind if it were not his peek

I think he shoulda been more subtle imo

I dont see how any of this is obvious and I suspect that one of the wolves is someone who knows hitch's game very well.

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09-30-2009 , 09:07 AM

#781

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Andynan

once again, voting him right now is not going to hurt anybody

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09-30-2009 , 09:07 AM

#782

Andynan

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

I'm kinda tempted to vote atak too, because he is the straightforward n1 NK as a villager, and because he is one of those that I think are most likely to snipe the seer n1 as wolf.

Only human to feel this way, I do too. (zomg seer died lets lynch atak!!!11?¡¡!)

but at the same time now that wolves are done seer-hunting we can wait and see if he gets NKed in the next few nights before going after him.

And the second part is the logic side of the brain taking over

kukra

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09-30-2009 , 09:07 AM

#783

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My fake peek was WN
I wont give much wolf points to WN for it though:
I was quite obvious about it and taunting the wolves to NK me. It was amusing to think that wolves would probably waste time in wolf chat discussing wether or not I could act this way as a seer, but I dont think it made me a prime candidate for the first NK.

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09-30-2009 , 09:10 AM

#784

Andynan

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

and asking people to list their fake seer hints is silly

its not something that every villager does or even should do

thats it, thunderdome baby!!

well, not really, but lets start with you explaining why can't we get everyone's fake peeks together now that the seer is dead?

why shouldnt villagers contribute that?

we know it's unlikely there were many correct peeks, lets dig them up and assign some (not lots, some) wolf points to all fake-peeked players imo.

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09-30-2009 , 09:11 AM

#785

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List of peeks

OTI- Dusting
Andy- Kukra
Kukra- WN

Mine was a bit more hidden among many many reads I made yesterday

I like to think that unless someone had Hitch nailed easily last night I was seriously considered. Obviously only if Dustin is actually a wolf

Also if Kukra is a wolf very good chance WN is too

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09-30-2009 , 09:12 AM

#786

Andynan

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

once again, voting him right now is not going to hurt anybody

ohhhh you meant to say "lets vote atak for laughs"

Oh lol!

vote atak

unvote atak

great fun was had by all.

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09-30-2009 , 09:12 AM

#787

Kukraprout

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Originally Posted by Andynan

And the second part is the logic side of the brain taking over

kukra

village points to everyone who posts a

next to my name

work is calling, wolves have until tomorrow to find a place to hide. then I'll be going after them.

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09-30-2009 , 09:12 AM

#788

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Originally Posted by Andynan

well like Kukra said not all fake peeks were created equal

if we do a little research it should be easy to see which ones would have been taken seriously and which woulda been obviously fake to the wolves

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09-30-2009 , 09:13 AM

#789

derwipok

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aao fake peeked me iirc

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09-30-2009 , 09:13 AM

#790

Andynan

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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911

List of peeks

OTI- Dusting

I like to think that unless someone had Hitch nailed easily last night I was seriously considered. Obviously only if Dustin is actually a wolf

hang on a sec. You fake-peeked dustin wolf?

Its kinda relevant bc the peek was a randed villager peek

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09-30-2009 , 09:15 AM

#791

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Originally Posted by Andynan

hang on a sec. You fake-peeked dustin wolf?

Its kinda relevant bc the peek was a randed villager peek

no I faked him villager obviously

where did I even sayI peeked him wolf?

I did say I fell out of love with the peek later in the day but still stuck with it

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09-30-2009 , 09:15 AM

#792

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Andynan

i didn't say we couldn't gather up the fake peeks

i said it would be silly

it would be silly because its going to produce any helpful information

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09-30-2009 , 09:17 AM

#793

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Originally Posted by derwipok

aao fake peeked me iirc

odd that you seem to be a little confused this game yet you realize what a fake peek is and that AAO's was probably you

makes me think this was discussed in wolf chat last night

normally when these things are posted they don't really mean much and don't get used later but mark down this one

if Derwi = wolf AAO is never ever ever a wolf

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09-30-2009 , 09:18 AM

#794

Andynan

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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911

List of peeks

OTI- Dusting
Andy- Kukra
Kukra- WN

Mine was a bit more hidden among many many reads I made yesterday

I like to think (...) I was seriously considered. Obviously only if Dustin is actually a wolf

You mean: only if Dustin is actually a villager right????

If Dustin is a wolf you'd be eliminated from seer contention immediately.

Come on, you are my soulmason this game OTI...

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09-30-2009 , 09:20 AM

#795

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

i didn't say we couldn't gather up the fake peeks

i said it would be silly

it would be silly because its going to produce any helpful information

I think you mean it wont produce anything helpful

but I disagree

I used to do very well in turbos by spending some time analyzing the fake peeks

I haven't broken out this technique of mine yet because I have been a wolf in every long vanilla game ive played

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09-30-2009 , 09:21 AM

#796

Andynan

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

and asking people to list their fake seer hints is silly

its not something that every villager does or even should do

Okay, I'll be as clear as possible. I'd like an explanation on the second part.

The part with the "or even should do", it implies there is some downside to listing the peeks. Elaborate please.

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09-30-2009 , 09:21 AM

#797

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Originally Posted by Andynan

If Dustin is a wolf you'd be eliminated from seer contention immediately.

Come on, you are my soulmason this game OTI...

yeah i mistyped my bad

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09-30-2009 , 09:23 AM

#798

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Originally Posted by Andynan

Okay, I'll be as clear as possible. I'd like an explanation on the second part.

The part with the "or even should do", it implies there is some downside to listing the peeks. Elaborate please.

if everyone leaves a fakepeek and the seer doesn't leave his peek than he is the odd man out and gets nk'd

especially in this setup

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09-30-2009 , 09:24 AM

#799

Andynan

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Originally Posted by OnThInIcE911

+1...

and I'll even chip in on behalf of aao. I hope he agrees this is correct when he comes back.

Aao: "the naysayers are wolves, whenever I do my ssod or any other list of reads the people who say it won't be of any use are wolves, like every time"