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11-19-2011 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
hey look at that vyk flip villager

big shocker

i think people to lynch are ones that knew that vyk would flip villager but sitll voted him

i think i remmebered aejones making a post like his gut says vyk will flip villa but he needs to be lynched

any post like that has a much better shot to be wolf

"vyk is probably a villa here but we need to lynch him"

look for quotes similar to that
I agree with all of this. I thought pretty strongly that Vyk07 had spewed himself villa and not wolf and thus I kept my vote on someone I thought was actually a wolf rather than go along with a policy lynch of someone I thought would flip villa.

I gotta head off to work soon but could you or someone else find all the people that had posts like "vyk is probably villa" but voted him anyways?
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11-19-2011 , 01:45 PM
Votes as of post 7526
Night in 32:14

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VotesLynchVoters
4 ▬▬▬▬▬▬ DCIAce (48), Karak (9), master3004 (1), nath (4)
4 Karak aejones (11), DukeSucks (4), Palo (41), vixticator (44)
2 showerman9 McBeef (12), MEbenhoe (3)
1 DCIAce Victor (21)
1 DukeSucks pvn (10)
1 Whitegoose wiper (5)
1 wiper Whitegoose (3)
1 unvote Booker Woodfox (2)
21 not voting ▬▬▬▬▬▬ (3), 72off (0), g-bebe (2), mjw0586 (8), nutshot2 (2), riverboatking (2), rmthawk64 (0), showerman9 (0), tarheeljks (2), tweedybirdd (0), Chilltown (1), Daer (0), Debo9 (0), EADGBE (0), Geddy Lee (0), JumanjiBoard (2), LuckyLloyd (3), LurchySoprano (0), McAvoy (0), NozeCandy (1), VarianceMinefield (3)
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11-19-2011 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
Can we have some discussion on whether vyk was Angel-protected or if he messed up a peek and claimed a wolf was villa?

I'd think SB would've been angel protected tonight, I guess SB and vyk both got angeled, wolves RBed SB and shot at vyk?

This seems pretty relevant and I think it has an actual answer that someone that knows WW rules/scenarios reower role working could figure out?
We shouldn't talk about this. I had another post of yours marked for multi quote on my phone but now I can't find it, but you basically talk about saying that you said something along the lines of sb and you should have been angeled the other day.

That type of talk narrows your range. It basically removed you from being an angel. When you have players talk about angels & seers, it gives wolves extra info about your role based on how you talk about it.
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11-19-2011 , 01:46 PM
Victor you are such a wolf it hurts. Everything except the attack-dog stuff just makes my eyes bleed, you flip between very smart, very clueless, and smart-sounding-with-WTFWRONG information with ease. It's totally covered up because you are active and fought with CVig and post lots of good reads.

You keep fooling me into thinking you're a villager, then I get stronger "man Victor has to be a wolf" vibes, rinse/repeat for the entire thread since d2.
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11-19-2011 , 01:47 PM
pvn,

why do you keep ignoring me?
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11-19-2011 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
Come on now, vyk was a fake seer and confusing/derailing everything. If he stays alive, all weekend is people yelling at him and then he dies anyways unless a real seer comes out w/ him.

If smie flips wolf, maaaybe I see your point, but there's not even any harm for a wolf to flip to smie.
Wolves love to get the better players mislynched. Vyk07 would definitely be the preferred lynch by the wolves over Smie in that situation.

Same thing applies to the previous day with Dyenimator imho since Dye was coming off more and more villa in the last day and was contributing unlike Riverman who did nothing all game.
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11-19-2011 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitegoose
g-bebe - ass but probably villager
nothing but , wg
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11-19-2011 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
We shouldn't talk about this. I had another post of yours marked for multi quote on my phone but now I can't find it, but you basically talk about saying that you said something along the lines of sb and you should have been angeled the other day.

That type of talk narrows your range. It basically removed you from being an angel. When you have players talk about angels & seers, it gives wolves extra info about your role based on how you talk about it.
This is logical. Though 1 angel in a sea of all these people only narrows range by like 3%. (It does, in theory, **** over the actual angel if too many people do so, but participation in that stuff is AIDS, like "If I was a seer..." would've been great if 30 people posted it.)

I absolutely never meant to say I should be angeled at any point. If I did in some WW-veteran-hint language, I apologize. I felt I was pretty certainly clear at that point, but there were also active seers to protect at that point and there would've been no reason for wolves to kill villagers off the lists until later.
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11-19-2011 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
vmf / vyk,

One thing that bothers me is I haven't seen a single case on smie, why has he been a wagon?

Has he even posted today? I don't remember a single post of his.
lmao you cannot be serious

vix,

Lets revisit this. Can you please explain why you asked if I was serious or not?
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11-19-2011 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Lineguy
Hey Master, what's up? You're being almost as UTR as the guy you replaced.
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11-19-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
vix,

Lets revisit this. Can you please explain why you asked if I was serious or not?
I'll answer for him. You subbed in after Smie went UTR if I recall but for the first couple days Smie was as spammy as Anarchist on meth. I assume you've played with Anarchist?
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11-19-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
Wolves love to get the better players mislynched. Vyk07 would definitely be the preferred lynch by the wolves over Smie in that situation.

Same thing applies to the previous day with Dyenimator imho since Dye was coming off more and more villa in the last day and was contributing unlike Riverman who did nothing all game.
This never occured to me. I don't know if this is legit in this game, because there are probably a lot of wolves that don't think about this.

I'd think wolves would want vyk around all weekend, trainwrecks the entire thread.
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11-19-2011 , 01:55 PM
hoppin' on the wagon

lineguy
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11-19-2011 , 01:59 PM
re: vix stuff. I have basically no read on Vix's status in this game, I was thinking wolf, then I bought the "he's too ******ed to play a wolf" thing, then I bought it less when Vix agreed with it.

He basically just went "well CVig and smie were linked-at-the-hip-Best-Friends-Forever, so they're on the same team" ...it's not too different from my "CVig and smie were BFFs, so there is no ****ing way they are both wolves, probably W/V"

So CVig goes howl-mode. I say smie is clear, vix says smie is a wolf.

If either or both or neither is innately suspicious from a "this is how it works in previous games..." standpoint, I have no idea. It was basically the exact opposite conclusion though.
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11-19-2011 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
I'll answer for him. You subbed in after Smie went UTR if I recall but for the first couple days Smie was as spammy as Anarchist on meth. I assume you've played with Anarchist?
Yea I've played with annie.


But in the future, please don't answer my specific questions to other people, if I direct it towards a specific person, its because I'm fishing for a reaction from them.

But I appreciate the info, thats quite weird.
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11-19-2011 , 02:04 PM
Palo,

I didn't mean to sound snarky there, I've been up since Friday morning and haven't slept yet cuz I was working, so I'm a little over tired and I can't sleep just yet. I need to unwind first.
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11-19-2011 , 02:05 PM
Whitegoose's wolf/villager list looks pretty bad to me.

Can anyone explain again why we "have" to lynch one of vyk's fake-seer villager peeks? He turned up village, he doesn't know ****. If he turned up wolf, then it would be an obvious decision.
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11-19-2011 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
I really think showerman is a wolf. He "peeked" me as a wolf, which isn't too controversial and could easily lead a wagon to lynch a villager. It also happened after SB's claim iirc, so it could have been a bit of a panicked reaction to a villager wagon de-railing.
If I were seer this would be a nice post to start a wagon against me without bolding me.

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Originally Posted by McBeef
showerman is one of the utr posters i've been meaning to have a look at, would be good to get him talking

showerman9
I admit my voting history is aids but I'm willing to answer anything to clear myself.


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Originally Posted by Victor
if showerman's peeks were correct, he would be dead by now right?
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Originally Posted by Palo
Yep, unless he's a wolf giving out peeks. But to be clear if he was a villager if his peeks were correct it's insane to think he'd still be alive. Same with Meb.
Are you 100% certain of this palo?
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11-19-2011 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
vyk

I think I believe his FPS but I think he pretty much has to go
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Originally Posted by aejones
correct. i believe you are a villager. if i had to handicap it, i think it's like like -650 you're a villager. but im still voting to kill you. what you did is significantly worse than any wolf could possibly do at this stage of the game to our team. you cannot be trusted to not do something similar again.
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Originally Posted by Booker Woodfox
It's really simple.

Either vyk07 made the worst play in the history of WW -- and I can say this based on my vast experience of one game ever -- and is a villager

or

He's a wolf.

I'm really starting to think that if he was actually a vanillager he wouldn't have cluttered up the thread with a hundred emoposts that serve no useful purpose. A truly contrite vanillager would have said sorry, here are my reads, bye.

If vyk was a vanillager there is no justification for him fake peeking KKC wolf. It makes no sense.

Tainted beyond salvation, vyk must go whatever he is.
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
vyk

I said you gots to go, I meant it, and I still hold out hope about my earlier smie read.

I kinda think you're villa though, and I'm not gonna pile on with saying you should be hit by a car or anything, but DAMN.
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Originally Posted by nath
Ugh, let's not talk ourselves out of the obvious decision again. Vyk gotta go. VMF probably gotta go soon too; his behavior today very suspicous. smie is a good candidate as well.

Point is, when someone's gotta go, they gotta go. We don't get more "information" lynching the wrong guy; we get information from how the vote shakes out. Sucks that we won't get more info because we have such an obvious lynch, but we gotta do what we gotta do.
Just a quick skim over the last 2 hours leading up to EOD and I thought these posts were a bit weird for one reason or another. Off to work, I'll be back tonight.
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11-19-2011 , 02:15 PM
I would like to know who's currently on Victor's wolf lean list. I think the previous group has been thinned out quite a bit.
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11-19-2011 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Yea I've played with annie.


But in the future, please don't answer my specific questions to other people, if I direct it towards a specific person, its because I'm fishing for a reaction from them.

But I appreciate the info, thats quite weird.
Sorry.
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11-19-2011 , 02:17 PM
nath, it's predicated on the idea that there was no chance vyk was targeted or a night kill (he was not roleblocked, so if his list was right, I think wolves probably shot-and-angel-missed him instead of RB+NK attempt on SB.)

I think it's kinda bull****, because ignoring the chance that they tried to NK vyk and his list is 100% clear, 2 villagers 1 wolf is not a much different ratio than 26 villagers 10 wolves.
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11-19-2011 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
Just a quick skim over the last 2 hours leading up to EOD and I thought these posts were a bit weird for one reason or another. Off to work, I'll be back tonight.
Someone should go back and look at all the posts from when Vyk screws up to see if there's any other "Vyk is probably villa but he's gotta go" posts or similar.
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11-19-2011 , 02:21 PM
Dukesucks and EADGBE are guys I've thought wolfy throughout.

Aejones is as good as cleared.

MJW's is contributing a lot by building hasty wagon cases all over the place.
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11-19-2011 , 02:23 PM
palo: odds I'm still alive if all my picks were correct?
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