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04-01-2012 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
wasnt an angle shoot at all

u just sore cause she told u how ur dead piost was bad
wtf u talking about, i realised my mistake, admitted that she was right and sent pm´s to the wolfs apologizing
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04-01-2012 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
to me its dodgy. I would never do it and feel good aboiut it, would feel really sketchy about doing that
that's up to you.

Some players have trouble with emotional appeals.

I know one time, in a long game when I was wolf, and I was a wagon, I completely (fake) flipped the **** out. I was raging, I was talking about how I hated my life, and how I legit hated everyone in the game, and whatnot. I avoided lynch. Now, I was lynched the next day and my team still lost, but in the postgame I had at least one person criticize me for playing on peoples' emotions.

Well, that's what the game is about.

You do what you think is necessary to bring your team to victory.

Crossnerd made like she thought night was before it was. You know what? Someone will fake that soon. Then someone will fake it as wolf. Then it will be commonplace. Then nobody will listen to it. There was a while where, in turbos, claimed seers would be lynched, just because claiming seer when the leading wagon was standard.

In werewolf, all tactics merge to equilibrium.

And life goes on.
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04-01-2012 , 02:01 AM
I think birdie's thought process is a reasonable one.

but mind games are definitely part of the game.
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04-01-2012 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
to me its dodgy. I would never do it and feel good aboiut it, would feel really sketchy about doing that
It wasn't intentional. I feel fine about it bc there is nothing wrong with it.

You're gonna feel a little pinch now, Birdie...

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04-01-2012 , 02:03 AM
can always smooth a post game over with south park clips
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04-01-2012 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FN2339
I think birdie's thought process is a reasonable one.

but mind games are definitely part of the game.
Some people definitely take it too far (you probably know who Im talking about). Cross here didn't imo, although those appeals combined with YG flipping wolf made her lock villa, and seerhunting meant I couldn't even kill her .
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04-01-2012 , 02:03 AM
well i know she was villa after it.. and people are getting modkilled for alot less reasons.

its two folded, the emo thing is allright, everyone does it to some extent but her mistake of eod is what kinda damages the game.

If we lynch noobs for night posting there should be some reprimands for this aswell
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04-01-2012 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
well i know she was villa after it.. and people are getting modkilled for alot less reasons.

its two folded, the emo thing is allright, everyone does it to some extent but her mistake of eod is what kinda damages the game.

If we lynch noobs for night posting there should be some reprimands for this aswell
no no no no no

nothign she did was against the rules of the game

you need to try to appeal ermotionally as a wolf too. lying is a big part of the game

night posting is a big rule. its completely diff
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04-01-2012 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
BC THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPENED

GET OFF ME
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
haha i like the pretending not kno eod time

regardless of role
you see this birdie

i knew that post she made didnt effect her role at all
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04-01-2012 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
well i know she was villa after it.. and people are getting modkilled for alot less reasons.

its two folded, the emo thing is allright, everyone does it to some extent but her mistake of eod is what kinda damages the game.

If we lynch noobs for night posting there should be some reprimands for this aswell
The thing is... you didn't! You only think you did because you don't understand the finer mechanics of the game.
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04-01-2012 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
well i know she was villa after it...
no you don't, a villa or wolf could easily do that.

also, same as whoever (domer?) pointed out Ship's edited/deleted post in the earlier turbo. he instantly clears himself villa (bc lol @ a wolf ever doing that to his partner in a turbo), but whatta ya gonna do? he really should PM the mod in that case, but modkilling them both might be harsh. but maybe not wrong, idk...
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04-01-2012 , 02:09 AM
c'mon guys sign up for a hyper turbo. I wanna win one of these to see what it feels like
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04-01-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
well i know she was villa after it.. and people are getting modkilled for alot less reasons.

its two folded, the emo thing is allright, everyone does it to some extent but her mistake of eod is what kinda damages the game.

If we lynch noobs for night posting there should be some reprimands for this aswell
And if she was wolf we'd all be laughing at you.

That's the key difference: she could have been a wolf. In fact, I thought she was a wolf.

If you give away information in a night post, or a dead post, it can legit be clearing because a wolf couldn't have done that within the confines of the game.
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04-01-2012 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
no you don't, a villa or wolf could easily do that.

also, same as whoever (domer?) pointed out Ship's edited/deleted post in the earlier turbo. he instantly clears himself villa (bc lol @ a wolf ever doing that to his partner in a turbo), but whatta ya gonna do? he really should PM the mod in that case, but modkilling them both might be harsh. but maybe not wrong, idk...
yeah that was an interesting case

which is why I was saying post-game that Ship should have lived

number 1, nobody was accusing Ship of game-changing editing, so that alone means it should be a wrist slap.

number 2, with the in-thread shenanigans, killing Ship clears domer. So if the mod feels it necessary to penalize, take away Ship's vote, or apply an additional "mod vote" towards his vote total.

whatever the judgment is, it needs to be a judgment that will be consistent, and is also fair to those making mistakes. modkilling ALWAYS for ALL TRANSGRESSIONS is, in fact, consistent, and I feel like some mods gravitate toward it because it's easy. However, I don't feel like it's fair to people making legitimate mistakes; I think mods should take the situation into account more, and should feel like they have more leeway to ensure a fair game.
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04-01-2012 , 02:17 AM
I did not mean to cause sucha stir here, I think there is alot of misunderstandings right now

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Originally Posted by 72off
Birdie, i really don't think what she did was an angleshoot at all

also, i don't think your dead post was all that bad, but it's still best to say as little as possible with those
Angleshot might be a bad word, but it really did change the game. And its not the emo outburst, its the mistake of eod that damages the game.

A week or two ago a first time player nightposted as wolf and was modkilled, couse it was perceived that she couldnt be in wolf chat at the same time... I mean there is a double standard here

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Originally Posted by domer2
birdie raging against the machine itt
yeah, giving a **** when its not my turn to give a ****

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Um, the difference is... what you did was against the rules and I quoted them from the sticky for you, in case you weren't aware.

What I did is not against the rules, and it is not an angleshoot for the reasons Felix pointed out.

It didn't damage the game, it damaged your butthurt. Good day to you.
lol how old are you
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Originally Posted by FN2339
one of my least favourite aspect of the game now(thanks henrik /suspectface) is the emotional appeals

i've done it myselfbut when i see one these days i go blerrrrgh

that said xnerd's posts werent anywhere near angly imo. she was playing within the game 100%. and it can go either way depending on meta so it's not like it's a sure fire way to clear someone/implicate someone anyway (thanks henrikjkasdflklsdfj)

and fwiw your night post imo was close to the borderline but not over it
see above.. I still think the eod thing is abit touchy, you aint allowed to ask itt what eod is, i think it follows the same logic

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Originally Posted by domer2
yeah but take that logic to the next level birdie

what if she was a wolf PRETENDING to not know that its eod? then her post was 100% effective on you.
ofc, ...
but if someone ask what eod is in thread he is thought not to be a wolf right? and thats angleing...aint this the same thing?

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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
ive made that post as a villager and wolf and i dont see whats wrong with it
seriusly? i doubt it, its not so much one post as alot of them combined that makes it "dead villa gg" = 100% villa.

you all need to adjust your radar

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Originally Posted by FN2339
that's the thing. depending on meta it can be interpreted either way

for eg in the FFIX game henriK(who had a history selfvoting and playing the woeisme card as a villa before) did the same thing. some people gave him a clear status after that for that act alone.

it can go either way
ofcourse, but some things are hence not allowed to be talked about in thread, like number of wolfes, eod ... this falls in to the same category to me

I might have used wrong wording or what ever but crossnerd did affect the game unintentionally
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04-01-2012 , 02:21 AM
Birdie,

You're wrong here and everyone agrees.

Accept it and move on.

I did nothing wrong. You clearing me was a mistake. Now you know.
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04-01-2012 , 02:22 AM
seriusly? i doubt it, its not so much one post as alot of them combined that makes it "dead villa gg" = 100% villa.

yes seriously

and its idiotic to think it makes someone 100 percent villa

plz keep using that read
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04-01-2012 , 02:22 AM
Just consider, players that have been playing this game for YEARS think you're 100% incorrect.
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04-01-2012 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Just consider, players that have been playing this game for YEARS think you're 100% incorrect.
jfc, I wont buckle on a beliefe just because you have all the cool kids on your side
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04-01-2012 , 02:26 AM
I think the pertinent points have been made here birdie's been playing here for not too long now and IMO it was a reasonable point to make but the correct points have been noted

i dont think you guys need to take a harsh tone on him like that neither sides have been accusatory
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04-01-2012 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
jfc, I wont buckle on a beliefe just because you have all the cool kids on your side
u are just wrong

there are rules to the game. no dead posts that say much. no editing post

saying gg village is completely acceptable by the rules
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04-01-2012 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
jfc, I wont buckle on a beliefe just because you have all the cool kids on your side
Keep thinking its a popularity contest if it helps you keep your head buried in that sand.

You don't understand the game and that's why you can't understand why your logic here is flawed. If you listened to more experienced players, you might learn something. Just a suggestion.

Any role could have posted what I posted. Not a single person here agrees with you in the remotest sense that it was an angleshoot or against the rules or spirit of the game. You're just entirely wrong. There's not much more to be said..
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04-01-2012 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FN2339
I think the pertinent points have been made here birdie's been playing here for not too long now and IMO it was a reasonable point to make but the correct points have been noted

i dont think you guys need to take a harsh tone on him like that neither sides have been accusatory
I'm trying not to be harsh. But the "angleshoot" word choice was a bad one, I find that accusatory. And besides that, instead of noting the pertinent points, he keeps arguing and saying its bc we're all the "cool kids" when it in fact has ZERO to do that friends or popularity. Its annoying in every sense of the word.
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04-01-2012 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
jfc, I wont buckle on a beliefe just because you have all the cool kids on your side
tell ya what

I've sensed that you're more likely to be a wagon day 1 than maybe some other players are.

Next time you're a wolf and a wagon d1, do what Crossnerd did in this game.

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think about that a bit
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you can already see the meta working, can't you?
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04-01-2012 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
u are just wrong

there are rules to the game. no dead posts that say much. no editing post

saying gg village is completely acceptable by the rules

well then you havent understood what I am talking about, I am not saying that the dead villa gg was intentional, it never is there, thats the point

the emo **** I guess I have to live with since I got emo once
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