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Old 05-05-2009, 01:31 AM   #1876
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Okay here's what I found interesting:
#469 doesn't want to vote Jumanji
#477 votes Beer
#555 tone implies that the beer vote is not due to a peek.
#575 Defends Jumanji again
#585 and again.

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Didn't jumanji remain pretty silent last time he got some heat (in the ssfr game)? His defense, even though it may not sound like hes a villa, makes me not want to vote him today

I also think Jack is playing similar to the first game. Posting a lot and changing his mind a lot. So I don't think we should lynch him for a while either.

As for right now, I'm not sure who to vote.I havent played with WU or beer and don't have a read on either one

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Firstly, I'd like to apologize for my lolbad vote yesterday. I had a slight inclination towards WU being a villa so I voted for beer. But no justified reason for voting beer. And I see why voting beer with the reason I stated is pretty bad. I don't think hes a wolf at this point, mostly because of what the keshaldra killing tells us. I'll also point out that, if I'm a wolf, that vote would have been suicidal and I would like to think I would make a better wolf than that. But I have not been one yet.

Secondly of all, I think BB brings up a good point. I also read Soah's strat guide about the secondary wolf thing. However, at that point, stark had already gained some attention from posting that list of his. Assuming stark is a wolf, wouldn't pushing that wagon be a little reckless at that point of the game? If stark gets some spite votes out of that list, kesh would have been in a pretty ****ty spot

#1104 first accusation of Ily
Also interesting: ily publically asks for and votes along with Fenix's input

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I'll give a couple thoughts on some of the players slink mentioned

ily - He has posted 3 times:

This looks pretty wolfy. No content, making excuses about being a noob. Not voting d1 seems like something a noob wolf would do. He also voted Malgin for no clear reason. I don't like the late vote and I don't like the logic behind it.

Malgin - I'm not too sure about him. He could go either way aorn. He has had some wolfy posting but I don't necessarily think hes a wolf. The fact that ily voted him helps his case. We need more info on him before lynching

A Ert - that JD vote then switch to jack looks a wee bit suspicious last night but I can't say much more about him. He voted WU the first day and was in the middle of the pack iirc

I don't have a read on chaser.

GTP mentioned that he thought a lot of the wolves were utr. That makes me think there are some active wolves. I doubt there is more than 1 wolf in this group

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it looks bad but mrsbutton changed her(?) vote 4 times total yesterday. 3 times the day before. Not out of the ordinary. Ert looks worse imo
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I don't mind an A. Ert wagon but I think ilya is more likely to a wolf. I don't like his tone overall. He hasn't posted much of anything. He's been talking about how the game is intimidating but this is not excuse not to post as a villa. His unwillingness to take a stand on anyone bothers me and its something I would think a noob wolf is prone to do. I'm not really liking that d2 vote. Plus a wagon on him might convince him to start posting a bit more which can't be bad.

vote ilya
#1205 Says Ilya's a wolf but doesn't mind an Aert wagon either.

#1257

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Yea I'm gonna to ahead and unvote ilya. His posts today makes me think he's a villa who doesn't care. But I'm not gonna go as far as to say I'll clear him but I won't vote him today.
#1357 doesn't want a Malgin wagon

#1363 Doesn't like a button wagon so votes Chaser:
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I don't really like the button wagon either and I'm gonna vote Chaser. I don't have a strong read on him but seems better than the other 2.
#1387 unvotes Malgin votes Button

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This is a pretty good list I think. I have played with Ainex, Jumanji, and Karak before. Ainex was pretty inactive when he was a villa which is similar to what he has been here. Jumanji was a wolf and I will admit, his play is starting to look more like his wolf game now. I was hesitant at first, as you mentioned, but he has decreased his posting and is making some throwaway posts. It's similar to how he stayed utr for a long time in the ssfr game. I wouldn't mind wagoning him today. Karak is a good player and one of the more experienced players here I think. His villa play was not very active in the last game but he probably plays a similar wolf game. I can't really tell about him.

The other players seem like decent choices.

How many people that voted malgin do we think are woofs? This is an interesting list and we should look into this a bit further I think.



I'm thinking 2 maybe even 3. Best candidates including ilya (another horrible vote to his record), riverfenix (not contributing much, was the original creator for the Malgin wagon, joined wagon in a typical wolf spot), and buttons for sporadic and inconsistent voting. Brian is looking as a very likely villa. I also think BB is a villa
#1564 he is suspicious of Fenix and Ilya

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Wagoning utr players is obv a better idea. I think JD and Jumanji wagons would be good alternatives. Jumanji especially, his play is really starting to look like his wolf play in the ssfr game. He has a couple posts today so he isn't afk
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Yea playing wolf in such a similar way seems odd. He hasn't been active much the past 2 days. Reading through his posts again it seems that most of his reads have been pretty good. He said JF was a villa and was quite adamant about this. He called GTP a wolf. His 2 other biggest wolf leans seem to be nightwolf and brian. I don't know about Brian but nightwolf as a wolf is plausible imo. That wagon has been started a few times and never taken off.
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so you're basing your bitchi vote on his comment on lynching for information? It doesn't look like a blatant contradiction btw. I think lynching BB at this point would be pretty bad.
#1731 Suspicious of Fenix and votes him

#1749 Says button wagon is not the best option.

#1762 again says button is not a wolf.
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buttons and you would have been a start

unvote

buttons does not look like a wolf here at all anymore to me
#1789 Votes Corsakh

#1793 unvotes votes button

Random posts that are should be n.b.:


#1577 Jumanji's top two wagon choices when bingo asks him are: Brian and Nightwood with button a third choice.

#1247 WER post that is interesting but not really damning:
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Chaser/bingo look wolfy to me...Pls to be having these 2 as wagons today.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #1877
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Ive been suspicious of RF too, gogogo people

riverfenix
This was one, now let me go find the other .
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #1878
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true....

Still I don't believe in co-incidences. And that's a big ****in one right there.
the most likely explanation for the coincidence is that they weren't playing a villager game, and i thought they were wolves because of it.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #1879
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yeah you know, after the 3rd wolf i just figured i knew the rest of their team, so i was like **** it, time to bust both the seers.

ez game.
care to tell us who they are then?
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:33 AM   #1880
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

^ that was in response to BB.

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@ goofy so you think a seer waited until the final minute to jump on someone that they peeked village and save a wolf?
True, that doesn't make a lot of sense, but I think there were two very clear options last night:
[ ] corsakh
[ ] Mrsbutton

...because either you believed Corsakh or you didn't. If you believed him or thought there was a chance he could be the seer, Mrsbutton was an obvious vote imo, because he's the only one who can save the possible seer. If you didn't believe him, you'd vote him. Bingo took neither choice though; he didn't vote corsakh yet refused to vote Mrsbutton because "he didn't like the wagon" or some wishy-washy reason. If he could save the seer, wtf reason is that? And if he didn't think he was saving the seer, why didn't he just vote corsakh?

I think it's possible that he started to feel pressure to vote buttons at the end in order to not give away his role, and that's what made him cave, but the damage had already been done by his initial hesitation.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:33 AM   #1881
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

I think we should just maj corsakh now, look at the night kills and proceed from there.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:36 AM   #1882
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****************IMPORTANT MOD NOTE*****************

MAJORIY NIGHT IS NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE REST OF THE GAME

If MAJORITY IS REACHED BY 12PM I WILL TRY TO GET 2 DAYS IN

EDIT: NK'S CAN BE SENT IN AT ANY TIME BEFORE NIGHT.

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Old 05-05-2009, 01:36 AM   #1883
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

So what do we have here...a mess from what I can tell:

Jumanji: At first Bingo defends him then from #1487 on he attacks him. Very possibly peeked and went on the offensive.

Ilya: Seems like a n1 peek - bingo's out to get him from the get go.

Button: I thought at first this must have been a peek but look at what happens late in the game - he continues to claim Button is not a wolf but then he goes ahead and votes button in #1793 .... why the hell did he do that if he peeked button?

J.D.: I don't think Bingo has anything good to say about him but comes off as a read not a peek.

BitchiBee: Flatly states that a BB vote is really bad and should not be lynched.


So I figure:
Ilya = wolf
Jumanji = wolf
BB = villa
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:38 AM   #1884
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@ goofy still think it was a horribad play.

He should of just voted corsakh as I had pointed out so many times why he wasn't seer and voting him wouldn't of given his role away at all.

Now combine saving a wolf (which he must have known) and voting off someone he'd peeked villager would be like the worst seer play of all time.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:39 AM   #1885
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He gets two peeks guys
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:39 AM   #1886
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So what do we have here...a mess from what I can tell:

Jumanji: At first Bingo defends him then from #1487 on he attacks him. Very possibly peeked and went on the offensive.

Ilya: Seems like a n1 peek - bingo's out to get him from the get go.

Button: I thought at first this must have been a peek but look at what happens late in the game - he continues to claim Button is not a wolf but then he goes ahead and votes button in #1793 .... why the hell did he do that if he peeked button?

J.D.: I don't think Bingo has anything good to say about him but comes off as a read not a peek.

BitchiBee: Flatly states that a BB vote is really bad and should not be lynched.


So I figure:
Ilya = wolf
Jumanji = wolf
BB = villa
Agreed.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:39 AM   #1887
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btns is not peeked, rivers is, now please be helping me find the 2nd one thanks.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:40 AM   #1888
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He gets two peeks guys
3 peeks by my count
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:40 AM   #1889
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Remember bingo would of known the claim was false.

So not only is he killing a seer cleared villa he is saving a definate wolf.

that'd be pretty ******ed for a seer to do.
How would bingo have known for sure that corsakh's seer claim was false? Did he peek corsakh/mdom/AE?


btw card,

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because when someone claims seer you never lynch them or their peeks.
I guarantee you this post helped get button lynched, so don't go around being all

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Also I can't believe how weak tight the village was yesterday.

Yes he claimed seer BUT HE IS A SEER PEEKED WOLF!!!

Not voting him cause he claimed was weak tight bollacks.
today.



OTI: Why has Ilya not been modkilled? Can you answer this question?

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OTI, can you confirm plz that "I'm trying to play a UTR wolf, don't blow my cover" is not an acceptable excuse to avoid getting modkilled?
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:41 AM   #1890
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Dead

I guess next game ill just stay UTR will live alot longer

no point trying to help this village

gl all

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Lol your wishy washy voting practices, inability to make up your mind, and random disappearances when attacked are what made me vote you two days in a row.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:42 AM   #1891
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How would bingo have known for sure that corsakh's seer claim was false? Did he peek corsakh/mdom/AE?
because he knew the other seer was dead, and he knew he was a seer. 2-1-1=0
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:42 AM   #1892
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How would bingo have known for sure that corsakh's seer claim was false? Did he peek corsakh/mdom/AE?

he knew the claim was false because he was seer and the other seer was already dead.

There are 2 seers in this game.

1+1=2

Not hard for him to work out.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:43 AM   #1893
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Oh duh
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:43 AM   #1894
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:44 AM   #1895
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Re: ROOKIE GAME THREAD!!! (9:30 pm EOD)

Thank you Goofy for pointing out Card's flip flopping and weak/tight comment. Just seems like a post to sow discord and accusation with no substance like he's hopping on the train Brian has started with the "oh this is a travesty" B.S.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:44 AM   #1896
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uh don't maj
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:45 AM   #1897
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@ Goofy go back and read eod yesterday. Yes I said that to explain why I was a bad vote. However count how many times I point out that CORS IS A SEER PEEKED WOLF.

I dunno about you anymore, seems hard to believe that you can read this thread and be so fracking ******ed.

"how would the only alive seer know the seer claim is false?" and *****.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:45 AM   #1898
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:45 AM   #1899
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Well it seems like we're already moving to the Corsakh 1 man wagon today which is fine by me but if we're going to do it let's do it quickly and get on with it.

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Old 05-05-2009, 01:47 AM   #1900
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Majing is not good for the village, lets use all our time to discuss and talk,

Since we're set today, and the wolves seem easy to find, lets do some sk hunting.
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