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05-16-2012 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I'm going to call this post wolfy because wolves are self conscience of talking to the village. Here he goes out of his way to say "fellow" villagers. Like he's trying hard to fit in with the village. Trying to hard imo.

He's also making excuses about absences.



This is fluff. For someone with 10 posts, fluff is bad and wolfy, he's trying really hard to fit in, in the game at this point.



necro is on skype most days, so unless he has skype on his phone, I don't buy his 2p2 is aids on his phone. More excuses.



Here necro either doesn't understand what Jim meant by wanting to see Steve in real time, or he's just wolfing and making stuff up to call people wolfy. Either way, its aids.



casting doubt at more people and not working to clear anybody = wolf agenda



ummm LYNCH ALL LIARS


I just thought he was at work and his phone sucks. But all of a sudden now, he's doing chores? At home I presume lol BUSTED



I have a really hard time believing this is excited to not be a wolf necro. All of his posts have been so blaze, not caring. But he's trying to fake villa excitement here except there is none.



I like how he's trying to insinuate that he's been so villagery and squeaky clean lol



Again, there is a lack of passion in his tone. Its like he's trying to pretend to be villagery but he just can't get the enthusiasm in his posts.

Notice how he doesn't call Gadarene wolfy at all either.



and then he does a 180, which is what wolves do when pressured about being wrong about a read.
K necro is good. Hifi looks better.

necro
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05-16-2012 , 07:39 PM
Iversonian is the best vote I think.

Its not too late to lynch him, 20 mins left.

Look how little he has done other than defend himself after I called him out for downplaying his wolf game.
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05-16-2012 , 07:39 PM
I tend to agree with magic gazz. I think a villager that was reading carefully would notice if their reads were identical to most of one of their wolf reads.

I don't, as a general rule, like long lists of reads. I was actually getting pretty suspicious of magic gazz when I read him throwing out that list and repeatedly trying for comments. Personally I see that as either wolfing or lazy villaging. Villagers should be trying to show evidence for their reads, or at least show how they arrived at those reads, not throwing them out there and seeing what sticks, which is how I perceived what magic gazz was doing.

But given what he was trying, I agree it is at least moderately strange that jim halpert didn't notice his list of reads was identical to his top wolf lean. Most people, when someone they believe is a wolf gives a long list of reads calling them a villager and otherwise agreeing, would react to the fact that the "wolf" is calling them a villager, at the very least.

I agree that it's not reflective of a villager mindset.
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05-16-2012 , 07:40 PM
That entire case is awful and nonsensical
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05-16-2012 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
That entire case is awful and nonsensical
<3 tho
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05-16-2012 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
Why was my post bad Felix, switch? I didn't like hifi coming out like she was ready to do work and then just not caring in practice. Has posted a bit when addressed directly but not much else. Not sure how you don't see these things.
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
HiFis tone in responding to me in our recent back and forth was actually pretty good. Putting that aside I only see a wolf. As a villager I never post that I'm super excited to clear myself and then only post as "meh". She has disappeared and reappeared to answer questions but no prolonged wolf hunting or work to clear anyone exists. She is trying whether intentionally or not to be utr. She is trying to avoid a lynch and is possibly uncomfortable actively wolfing, perhaps because she is a wolf pr and does not want to draw attention. These are theories but ill stay confident.

hifi
First sentence doesn't jive with the rest of the post.

First underlined bit is super thin. I think she's done a suitable amount of playing for day 1. I don't know what your expectations are.

Second underlined bit: everyone is presumably "trying to avoid a lynch", it's when someone seems to be approaching the game only doing the minimum necessary to avoid a lynch that we have a problem. "Is possibly uncomfortable actively wolfing" is an unfounded assumption and shows that you're taking your conception of HiFi = wolf and tossing out reasons she may be a wolf, rather than considering evidence and drawing conclusions.

And to top it all off, the entire chunk of reasoning is applicable several times over to necro, yet you don't even mention him. In necro you have a guy who is actually unambiguously UTR, has done almost zero playing, has disappeared and reappeared, and so on. If this is what you're looking for to find a wolf day 1, then how do you end up voting HiFi over necro?

(Note: I'm not making a case on necro, mostly because the case has already been made. I'm saying that TBob, given what he's telling us, ought to be leading the charge on necro, not ignoring him.)
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I tend to agree with magic gazz. I think a villager that was reading carefully would notice if their reads were identical to most of one of their wolf reads.

I don't, as a general rule, like long lists of reads. I was actually getting pretty suspicious of magic gazz when I read him throwing out that list and repeatedly trying for comments. Personally I see that as either wolfing or lazy villaging. Villagers should be trying to show evidence for their reads, or at least show how they arrived at those reads, not throwing them out there and seeing what sticks, which is how I perceived what magic gazz was doing.

But given what he was trying, I agree it is at least moderately strange that jim halpert didn't notice his list of reads was identical to his top wolf lean. Most people, when someone they believe is a wolf gives a long list of reads calling them a villager and otherwise agreeing, would react to the fact that the "wolf" is calling them a villager, at the very least.

I agree that it's not reflective of a villager mindset.


Are you even reading the thread?
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
Does anyone find it odd that Mac has done **** all and is now trying to lead the lynch?
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
That entire case is awful and nonsensical
Does it help that I decided to call him a wolf before a read a single one of his posts because of a meta read with him only having 10 posts?
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
Votes as of post 1308
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VotesLynchVoters
6 necro Aksdal (46), chrja (30), Gadarene (92), HiFi (33), teddyyyr1974 (83), Tehtoes (39)
3 Felix the Cat Steve Yzerman fan (59), TheNothing (27), Willi (45)
3 TheNothing Felix the Cat (38), OrangeRake (60), Sun Tzu (3)
2 HiFi TBobLP (70), captain binkles (97)
2 OrangeRake JimHalpert (134), Swiitch (82)
1 chrja VarianceMinefield (99)
1 iversonian magic_gazz (109)
1 JimHalpert VoraciousReader (27)
1 magic_gazz McAvoy (44)
1 McAvoy J.D. (17)
1 TBobLP iversonian (38)
1 not voting necro (10)

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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
But OR declining to quote McAvoy's EIGHT POSTS showing which ones were villagery is ultimately worse. I do want to express support for magic gazz's theory though. It seems as though everyone else is dismissing it, and I don't think that makes sense.

orangerake
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
That entire case is awful and nonsensical
cool story

care to explain the wording and how you weight those two things as more important than my content which you describe as good?
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05-16-2012 , 07:41 PM
That was a rude way to point out that false statement. I'm trying to behave, sorry
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05-16-2012 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
That entire case is awful and nonsensical
So you had time to read that did you......
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05-16-2012 , 07:42 PM
I think Iversonian has been villagery, he's a bad option
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05-16-2012 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
Are you even reading the thread?
yes? not as closely as I would like since I had to read most of the last half of the day from my phone at work while fielding phone calls, but I didn't want to show up without having read anything and try to catch up on 600 posts or something.
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05-16-2012 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by magic_gazz
Does anyone find it odd that Mac has done **** all and is now trying to lead the lynch?
not really

it's within normal Mac range
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05-16-2012 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Does it help that I decided to call him a wolf before a read a single one of his posts because of a meta read with him only having 10 posts?
I meant Tehtoes' case on me
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05-16-2012 , 07:43 PM
Mac's Lock meta read #2

OrangeRake wouldn't spend 60 posts playing ww on day one when her wedding is in two weeks. That makes her a lock villager in Mac's book.

Ww is ez
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05-16-2012 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I do want to express support for magic gazz's theory though. It seems as though everyone else is dismissing it, and I don't think that makes sense.
Sure it does

it's really villagery of him but there's no way to use that and make the connection that jim is a wolf given that jim had already clarified he didn't really feel strongly about his magic read at all

so it's perfectly reasonable he's just not paying that much attention to what magic was doing
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05-16-2012 , 07:44 PM
iversonian sorry binkles but I've got to trust Orangerake's read plus i like messing with magic.
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05-16-2012 , 07:44 PM
VR, thanks for the support.

Im never sure if what im saying makes any sense.

It doesnt help when people read what they want rather than try to understand what the person is actually trying to express.
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05-16-2012 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
yes? not as closely as I would like since I had to read most of the last half of the day from my phone at work while fielding phone calls, but I didn't want to show up without having read anything and try to catch up on 600 posts or something.
I made multiple statements that my read on magic was very thin, that I didn't want to really focus on him at this point as I'd have a better grasp after a day or 2, and that I was iffy on a few things. He certainly wasn't my largest wolf read like you're attempting to portray it. I'm wondering if you just didn't really read the interaction very closely or if you're trying to manipulate it.
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05-16-2012 , 07:45 PM
Felix, point made and understood. I am happy w a necro lynch even tho I haven't said much.
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05-16-2012 , 07:45 PM
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6 necro Aksdal (46), chrja (30), Gadarene (92), HiFi (33), teddyyyr1974 (83), Tehtoes (41)
3 Felix the Cat Steve Yzerman fan (59), TheNothing (27), Willi (45)
3 OrangeRake JimHalpert (136), Swiitch (82), VoraciousReader (29)
3 TheNothing Felix the Cat (39), OrangeRake (60), Sun Tzu (3)
2 HiFi TBobLP (71), captain binkles (99)
2 iversonian magic_gazz (111), McAvoy (47)
1 chrja VarianceMinefield (99)
1 McAvoy J.D. (17)
1 TBobLP iversonian (38)
1 not voting necro (10)

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