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05-21-2012 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I actually learnt a **** tonne from teddy. I honestly didn't find any of the wolfs, he pretty much drew attention to all of our suspects and I just hammered the point home in the thread.

It was teddy that pointed out the way Sun & TN had interacted and created the suspicion on Sun, so I went and researched it and kept repeating it.

It was really interesting to have a mason like this, he would help poke and prod things in my mind.

He was onto iversonian, JD & necro on day one.
you didn't hammer anything home by posting a lot of nonsense
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05-21-2012 , 08:18 PM
GG village.

LOL wolves.

Thanks for the excellent modding Cross.

I probably will never play a game with Mac again. If I was a villager I would have seriously been on ubertilt. As it was I had to pretend I was, all while lolling .
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05-21-2012 , 08:24 PM
Mac, its not on the villagers to make the game harder on themselves its on the wolves to make the game harder.

I dont want to be insulting but it felt a bit like most of the wolves just crawled up and died.
It could have been that they didnt have time, but Iversonian and Necro kinda just disapeared.

As Aksdal just said it actually wasnt as close as you might think.

The 2 subs were in a tough position as I doubt they had read the whole thread and probably wouldnt have been able to defend themselves enough.

OR's poor reaction to your claim would have been enough to convince me to lynch her.

I was actually more convinced of Aksdal being a wolf over Sun. Sun kept pointing out that people were calling him a wolf for no reason and I was starting to believe him.
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05-21-2012 , 08:25 PM
Mac I have enjoyed games with you in the past, even when you do some crazy shiz.

This game you took it way too far and you need to realise that.
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05-21-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by magic_gazz
This game you took it way too far and you need to realise that.
I admit I went further than usual because I knew I had a mason and ya'll wouldn't spite lynch him to get at me.

You guys can complain all you want though, our play helped crush the wolves.

I made the case on necro.
I saved OR the villager.
I saved VMF the villager.
I got Sun a tonne of heat.
When TN was feeling frustrated, I encouraged her to keep playing and to work to clear herself.

Those are undesputable facts.
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05-21-2012 , 08:30 PM
gg

thanks for modding crossnerd, very smooth and the theme was
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05-21-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by magic_gazz
Sun kept pointing out that people were calling him a wolf for no reason and I was starting to believe him.
it shouldn't be a matter of believing me

it was true

I'm sure there were reasons to think I was a wolf, but no one found any
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05-21-2012 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I admit I went further than usual because I knew I had a mason and ya'll wouldn't spite lynch him to get at me.

You guys can complain all you want though, our play helped crush the wolves.

I made the case on necro.
I saved OR the villager.
I saved VMF the villager.
I got Sun a tonne of heat.
When TN was feeling frustrated, I encouraged her to keep playing and to work to clear herself.

Those are undesputable facts.
you didn't save OR, you made her more likely to get lynched

you didn't save vmf

the things you said didn't make me more likely to get lynched, they made it easier for me
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05-21-2012 , 08:35 PM


Tyra say No Fighting!
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05-21-2012 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
you didn't save OR, you made her more likely to get lynched

you didn't save vmf

the things you said didn't make me more likely to get lynched, they made it easier for me
Mhmm

Supine/Myself were pretty much guaranteed mislynches. Mac basically made it impossible to take OR to ML.

I think wolves probably actually win if they submitted NAs last night.
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05-21-2012 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
Mhmm

Supine/Myself were pretty much guaranteed mislynches. Mac basically made it impossible to take OR to ML.

I think wolves probably actually win if they submitted NAs last night.
you would have been an easy mislynch

once aksdal or I get lynched, the other looks pretty good

we probably would have made it to f3 but it could have gone either way
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05-21-2012 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I actually learnt a **** tonne from teddy. I honestly didn't find any of the wolfs, he pretty much drew attention to all of our suspects and I just hammered the point home in the thread.

It was teddy that pointed out the way Sun & TN had interacted and created the suspicion on Sun, so I went and researched it and kept repeating it.

It was really interesting to have a mason like this, he would help poke and prod things in my mind.

He was onto iversonian, JD & necro on day one.
Mac was the one onto jd day 1.
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05-21-2012 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I admit I went further than usual because I knew I had a mason and ya'll wouldn't spite lynch him to get at me.

You guys can complain all you want though, our play helped crush the wolves.

I made the case on necro.
I saved OR the villager.
I saved VMF the villager.
I got Sun a tonne of heat.
When TN was feeling frustrated, I encouraged her to keep playing and to work to clear herself.

Those are undesputable facts.
I would say most of those are disputable.

Necro was a wagon before you made a case on him.

OR looked worse after your play.

Im pretty sure several people had VMF as a villager.

Why cant you just admit you made a mistake? There is nothing wrong with making mistakes as long as you realise it.
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05-21-2012 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by magic_gazz
Also this game proved I still cant read Jim
Jim was so villagery on page1/d1, I couldn't fathom anyone not seeing it.
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05-21-2012 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiitch
Jim was so villagery on page1/d1, I couldn't fathom anyone not seeing it.
I guess thats why 1 person is not in charge of the lynching.

It was only because so many people said Jim was a villager I dropped it.

I really thought I was onto something with him not noticing my reads were exactly the same as his. Seems like that was a dumb idea.

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Jim is nearly always a wolf
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05-21-2012 , 09:24 PM
Clearly, we are all just puppets and mac is pulling the strings.

Sorry mac, after hearing you deliberately tried to **** stuff up for the village, I am about 99% likely to not play any more games with you.
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05-21-2012 , 09:29 PM
It's cool magic

I think it was a pretty good plan actually and I should have given more credit to it in real time. I don't really know why I didn't notice it. I really should have.
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05-21-2012 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiitch
Clearly, we are all just puppets and mac is pulling the strings.

Sorry mac, after hearing you deliberately tried to **** stuff up for the village, I am about 99% likely to not play any more games with you.
Except you need to realize when you are being trolled. My comment about the SK should lynch Jim really had no impact on the game. VR is a good enough player that she already knows how she should be playing her role. When she woke up to 2 dead wolves on morning 2, she should know that she needs to help the village at that point.

Me commenting about it on the post game is just riling up feathers still because people are acting so butthurt.

I admitted I went a little over the top this game because I knew I had a lover and you guys wouldn't take it out on him.

I'm sorry if you all didn't like my play but I discussed pretty much most of it with my mason and we honestly felt we were helping our team. Just because I say the opposite, doesn't mean I mean what I say.

Saying that OR could never make it to f3 after what I did, well she was never making f3 regardless, she wasn't doing anything, she coasted the entire game. She really should have been lynched.

But I apologize to everyone, I didn't mean everything I've said in the post game. You guys were just acting butthurt, so I played along some more with it, so I apologize.

I realize ww is an emotional game but people need to learn to not take things so personal, we are playing roles and not everyone means what they say, people get heated and over react and call other people names etc... yea it would be great if we could always be super nice but unfortunately people get riled up and it doesn't always work out that way.
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05-21-2012 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
you would have been an easy mislynch

once aksdal or I get lynched, the other looks pretty good

we probably would have made it to f3 but it could have gone either way
no doubt. let's say sun gets lynched or nk'd. when sun flips wolf, I am immediately number one on the wolf list. I was defending him so hard because he was right - no one was giving any reasons and it was driving me insane.

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
I realize ww is an emotional game but people need to learn to not take things so personal, we are playing roles and not everyone means what they say, people get heated and over react and call other people names etc... yea it would be great if we could always be super nice but unfortunately people get riled up and it doesn't always work out that way.
yeah this is my biggest weakness. it's not that I was seriously taking these things p,ersonal. it was a combination of everything. I had zero time this game. I probably should have subbed out but I really wanted to play. I expected it to start much earlier but it didn't. then, because I couldn't hang around and be my normal villagery self, I couldn't refute all those still stuck on anniversary. I tried really hard when I did have the time and I thought I helped. then teddy says, yeah you gave me no content and tehtoes says, yeah that was villagery but I still don't buy it. argh.

I'll get better.

I take nothing personal here. sounds like it at the time but I don't really.

I will never be able to read Jim. if I'm confident in a read, we are wolves together or I'm the seer.

to mac for talking me off the ledge. I knew (as if it wasnt clear already) we were on the same team cause otherwise, you wouldn't have done that.

much crossnerd. great game, great write ups. should have quit straight away when I wasn't SK like I said in sign up.
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05-21-2012 , 10:34 PM
oh yea crossnerd for doing a great job modding and nice pics
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05-21-2012 , 11:52 PM
I want to say that I think this game was played at a pretty high level as displayed by village outing wolves and NAs, however, the not submitting NAs was the biggest wolf team fail I've ever seen
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05-22-2012 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by magic_gazz
I dont want to be insulting but it felt a bit like most of the wolves just crawled up and died.
It could have been that they didnt have time, but Iversonian and Necro kinda just disapeared.
I had 38 posts on d1 and got vigged n1. Not sure what more you expect. I may lie during the game about my availability, but not in the sign up thread.

One can't get indignant when this happens, of course, but I thought that everyone who thought I was a wolf did so for all the wrong reasons. Where they said I was lying, I was telling the truth. I didn't enter wolf chat until late d1, and nobody else was on then. I forgot who most of my wolf team was and thought tbob was a wolf until EOD. Even if I say so myself, I thought that my d1 was pretty much the same as my villager game.
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05-22-2012 , 12:24 AM
Thanks for modding, crossnerd. I really appreciate it.
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05-22-2012 , 01:41 AM
Thanks, Cross

GG, wolves.

Wp, village.

Sorry for subbing out. I do not want to discuss reasons here, but if you really need to know reasons and think I too easily subbed out then I can send you a PM.
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05-22-2012 , 01:44 AM
And sorry for so many wrong reads. One part was lazyness and other just misreading. Still pretty dissapointed with myself, because I thought that Aksdal was one of the best reads I have in playerlist and readed him horrible wrong in day 1 and was not good enough to make case on him in later. Should have put more work in to dig up his older games and prove my point.
Also misreaded all other wolves expect Necro + was wrong on TN and many othehrs

Sorry guys.
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