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05-18-2012 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
ok.

I had a shower epiphany just now ( and we all know that kind is the best). I think something just clicked for me, but it's going to take quite a bit of research both in this game and a couple different previous ones. If this research corroborates my thoughts right now (and I really think they will), I am going to ask you to blindly sponge me today. Blindly because I don't really want to write a novel explaining it and also wanna keep it kinda on the DL so I can use it in future games (its one of those things where when you know what it is its no longer effective).

I know thats really weird to ask, but that group of people are in my circle of trust right now that ive reread today or paid significant attention to today.

Any chance this happens?
Jim, I do trust you, but im not doing anything blindly.
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05-18-2012 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chrja
Could you explain why?
Ya, i really liked the interactions between him/myself/Jim last night
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05-18-2012 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
as i was scrolling, i also saw the argument that because i'm not confident in my reads, it's being seen as softpushing or not wanting to be accountable.

Does anyone remember me when i first started? Any of you play with me? I did that every game because i always suck at picking out wolves. Seriously. I've had ONE game where I was successful in finding wolves and it got canceled because of the hacker.

I am not confident here because of obvious reasons, I've been wrong about everyone. Well, except Gad and Tbob but they were obvious.
not being confident isn't wolfy so you can ignore accusations based on that
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05-18-2012 , 06:32 PM
wow, really?

that's why i'm a good vote for you?

because i thought i remembered something but i was wrong about it? and i came back immediately and said "i was totally wrong, ignore me now please"?

lmfao. okay.
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05-18-2012 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
He feels really different from the last game I played with him when he was a wolf.
this doesn't work
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05-18-2012 , 06:33 PM
Sun, you would know better than I would. . I hope you are not evil because you seem like an island of sanity in an insane thread atm.
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05-18-2012 , 06:33 PM
Votes as of post 2781
Night in 01:27

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VotesLynchVoters
4 TheNothing magic_gazz (14), teddyyyr1974 (26), Tehtoes (21), VoraciousReader (26)
3 VarianceMinefield chrja (25), Felix the Cat (32), Swiitch (38)
1 Aksdal Sun Tzu (18)
1 Sun Tzu OrangeRake (56)
1 VoraciousReader Willi (36)
1 unvote Steve Yzerman fan (47)
6 not voting Aksdal (12), J.D. (10), JimHalpert (95), McAvoy (49), TheNothing (12), VarianceMinefield (0)
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05-18-2012 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
this doesn't work
Okay, I have a tinfoil hat theory. Please please don't think I'm a wolf now. I'm really really not.
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05-18-2012 , 06:35 PM
I have to leave in about an hour. Does felix have a chance at going tonight or am I the only person who thinks he's wolfy now?
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05-18-2012 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
Please do some good analysis or something so I can reasonably justify a villa read on you.

Your d1 vote was A+ but the rest has been C- at best, sorry.
ugh THIS THIS THIS is what i've been on about. everyone thinks i'm saying the voting counts for nothing & that's BULL****. I never said that we completely and entirely ignore voting.

BUT BUT BUT when a decent vote is partnered with a substandard or wolfy game, we can't just blindly say "good vote = villager" and ignore all the other evidence.

thanks for that, Felix. I have apparently been unable to articulate my point clear enough.
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05-18-2012 , 06:36 PM
Aksdal
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05-18-2012 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
wow, really?

that's why i'm a good vote for you?

because i thought i remembered something but i was wrong about it? and i came back immediately and said "i was totally wrong, ignore me now please"?

lmfao. okay.
ahem
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05-18-2012 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
wow, really?

that's why i'm a good vote for you?

because i thought i remembered something but i was wrong about it? and i came back immediately and said "i was totally wrong, ignore me now please"?

lmfao. okay.
If you looked at the posts from late night and early morning, the information that I would be afk all day was right there, which was the subject of discussion, but you didn't bring it up when you came back and said you were wrong.
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05-18-2012 , 06:37 PM
sup TN

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2583

I'm having a lot of problems weighting the villagery and wolfy stuff from you though
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05-18-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
when aksdal is a villager he comes up with lots of ideas

some of them are bad

some of them are insightful

but he stirs things up and gets people thinking

I haven't seen that at all this game

he hasn't instigated anything

he hasn't said anything controversial

he's hardly been interacting with people
i agree with this post in it's entirety

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
If you looked at the posts from late night and early morning, the information that I would be afk all day was right there, which was the subject of discussion, but you didn't bring it up when you came back and said you were wrong.
no. someone said "hey has VR even been here?" I say "Oh, i remember she did this and left". Then i thought, maybe i should make sure of that, i don't want to give false information. So i search for your posts, see you've posted in the morning time & it was NOT what I said you did. So i scrolled down & saw that you did that the night before. I came back in the thread and said "hey sorry, i was totally wrong, that was last night"

I never said i was going to read all your posts & make a case for you not being around. Hardly anyone else remembered you said you'd be out so why take it all out on me?
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05-18-2012 , 06:40 PM
just in general "different" doesn't tell you anything because there are too many reasons for differences

- different lineup
- different game
- different rl circumstances
- player learns something and adjusts

don't ever clear someone for acting different than they did as a wolf in another game

I play pretty much every wolf game a little bit differently and it's not hard to change certain things

if you can find something specific that's hard to change or know why it changed, you might have something, but different by itself is worthless
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05-18-2012 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tehtoes
sup TN

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2583

I'm having a lot of problems weighting the villagery and wolfy stuff from you though
i'm going to quote it and see if i can help you out.
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05-18-2012 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
i agree with this post in it's entirety



no. someone said "hey has VR even been here?" I say "Oh, i remember she did this and left". Then i thought, maybe i should make sure of that, i don't want to give false information. So i search for your posts, see you've posted in the morning time & it was NOT what I said you did. So i scrolled down & saw that you did that the night before. I came back in the thread and said "hey sorry, i was totally wrong, that was last night"

I never said i was going to read all your posts & make a case for you not being around. Hardly anyone else remembered you said you'd be out so why take it all out on me?
"Hey has VR even been here?"

"Yeah, she voted Jim and some other stuff."

"No...wait that was last night...BUT SHE POSTED THIS MORNING."

I guess I don't understand how that last bit gets left out when it was the subject under discussion.
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05-18-2012 , 06:42 PM
I haven't mentioned steve in a long time

he's moved to slightly villagery
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05-18-2012 , 06:42 PM
Votes as of post 2794
Night in 01:18

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VotesLynchVoters
4 TheNothing magic_gazz (14), teddyyyr1974 (26), Tehtoes (22), VoraciousReader (29)
3 VarianceMinefield chrja (25), Felix the Cat (32), Swiitch (38)
2 Aksdal Steve Yzerman fan (49), Sun Tzu (20)
1 Sun Tzu OrangeRake (56)
1 VoraciousReader Willi (36)
6 not voting Aksdal (12), J.D. (10), JimHalpert (95), McAvoy (49), TheNothing (16), VarianceMinefield (0)
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05-18-2012 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
i'm going to quote it and see if i can help you out.
excellent
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05-18-2012 , 06:44 PM
ok so heres where im at:

it checked out. im gonna wait a little bit before announcing it though. not super long. but just a bit


i want to talk about a couple other things first:
OR/Mcavoy as lovers makes sense. im trying to wonder what it means for vmf wanting to mason with her - if anything
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05-18-2012 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Sun, you would know better than I would. . I hope you are not evil because you seem like an island of sanity in an insane thread atm.
I hope you're not evil because then I will look and feel stupid
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05-18-2012 , 06:44 PM
rereading VR

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
McAvoy to begin with.
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
opening on a vote role neutral for you?



good livin
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I thought about this question, and if I'm around and able to post when the thread first opens, I tend to chat a little, feel people out a bit, and delay voting until later. But if I don't get into the thread until the other players are playing in earnest, I think I am more likely to read through and then post a vote on someone that seems suspicious to me but that nobody else is voting yet or that has only one or two votes. Since I post less as a wolf I probably do it a bit more when I'm furry, but it's more fun when I'm a villager and can just stir pots without pushing a hidden agenda.
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
So, McAvoy.

Came into the thread, disagreed with everyone on Swiitch, hard-cleared him, then said he was using someone else's information to read him, then I voted him and he ninja-vanished.

Just saying.
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I love Swiitch. Love him. Treasure him. But he's a worse wolf than I am. And that's saying a lot.
This whole sequence doesn't really make a lot of sense.

VR says swiitch is a v bad wolf.

she comes in and votes macavoy with her first post then justifies it later for Mac clearing Swiitch early, but if swiitch is such a bad wolf then that shouldn't look weird at all. The only way it would look weird to her is if she thought Swiitch was already an obvious wolf and in that case she would probably just vote swiitch.

it's fine to do something like this if it doesn't make total sense, but the thing that makes it wolfy is the red post. She acted in a way that's probably irrational, then went back and tried to counterfit logic to it.

gonna probably just reread ppl individually til im caught up
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05-18-2012 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
i'm going to quote it and see if i can help you out.
can you chat with me for a couple minutes? Id really like your opinion on a couple players:

JD
VR
Chrja
Willi
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