I mean, even in the scenario you mentioned (which I have never seen you do btw), you are still expecting your team to guess another word, so it's really no different.

The entire basis of the n-1 rule is that you don't leave the board with 1 word left...it doesn't matter if it's a number or unlimited. Either we stop at 6 or guess to 8. That's how it's always been and always will be.

Haha I'm lovin this

that is not the basis of n-1

the basis of n-1 is simply the deductive logic that if I clue you to 1 less than what we need, then you should guess the top word

it has nothing to do with leaving the board with 1 word left; an unlimited clue can leave the board with 1 left or 2 left or ... that's the WHOLE downside of unlimited clues, is you don't know how many the person is cluing for; we are trading that clarity for making up the words on the list because we think that is faster than being precise with our clue number

but nothing to do with n-1


at the end of the day, you use unlimited differently from me; you use it to indicate top word only is correct, which makes no sense to me, but you and ervin like that

but I've been consistent on here for 3 years nonstop now that I use n-1 for guess top word of list and unlimited is to makeup more than just the top word of the list...anything you want to say about how many words I'm cluing for in unlimited is you putting words in my mouth that just aren't true...I will clue unlimited where the clue hits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7 (on red) words + your prior list

I'd like to clarify(at least for me, I would guess for D1 too) unlimited means AT LEAST top word is correct, not necessarily top word ONLY, though it could be. Gotta figure it out based on situation but it's generally pretty clear imo

and that's the problem

why make your team figure it out when n-1 is 100% clear?


you have 2 words on list and 4 total left to get

if both words on list are correct, we both clue unlimited and the team knows to guess 2 for clue and makeup both words

if only top word is correct, I clue 3 and team knows only top word is right and guesses 3 for my new clue....but you clue unlimited and team doesn't know if the new clue is for 2 and 2 makeups or 3 and 1 makeup

why introduce that uncertainty? why clue the same way for 2 very different intents at the same point of the game when a clear path is available instead?


unlimited is a bad option because you lose communication of how many words your clue is for...that is made up for by getting multiple on the list, so we use it for makeups, but using it when only top word is correct is just getting the bad with no benefit and adding confusion for your team

Unlimited would've been a terrible option in your position if it was for 3 words. You would've clued 3 so we can guess the 3 obvious wooden words with no confusion, and pick up Washington from before. That would leave us with 2 words left and you could either give a 1 clue or a 2 clue if fish somehow happened to be wrong. Not cluing unlimited in that spot doesn't mean 2nd word is wrong necessarily, and I know you know that.

Unlimited is superior to n-1 IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS. I have explained what they are multiple times before, but you somehow are just not getting it. I have no interest in rehashing the debate tho and I know you'll never be convinced, so let's just leave it at that.

Wow. Nice.

Unlimited is going for it on 4th and long because field position doesn't matter if you need a score.

I don't know what your situations are and don't recall seeing them; just that you posted recently that you agree with ervin on using unlimited over n-1, so that's why I lump you with him

I would definitely want to know when you use unlimited because I will respect that when you are spymaster, just like if ervin does unlimited at end of a round I'll treat it like an n-1 since I know that's what he's doing...my goal is to win the rounds when winnable, not be "right" about some argument over which is best way...but I do post about these a lot when they come up so that people are very clear on my positions and won't misunderstand my clues...which is why this game where you said I'd do 2 or 4 only, and not 3, which is incorrect, I felt I had to argue and set the record straight so in future games players don't think that's a rule I have

I just want people to know how I clue so that our communication is clear and I want to know how others clue so that I listen to them properly when they clue...I defend n-1 because I think it's best, I want others to know that I use it and why, and I prefer in a game where we have a mix of 10 different people over 3 games over many years if we all use similar styles so we don't have to memorize tons of quirks...but knowing you/ervin both do unlimited instead of n-1 isn't much to memorize so I can roll with it, but now you saying you only do it in CERTAIN circumstances definitely has me wanting to know what those are so that I know how YOU clue and I can be the best guessing partner possible for you when we are on the same team

If we have 2 or 3 words left, I will always clue unlimited if next word on the list is correct.

If 3 words are left, unlimited could be for 1 or 2 words, but that should be easy enough to work out from the clue. If I give a 2-clue, you can work out if you should stop or find another word based on game state/makeups.

More than that I'll just do n-1 as normal.

Ok thanks

if this post is odd, i'll be red




Amazon
Angel
Berry
Book
Camp
Cliff
Concert
Court
Dragon
Egg
Hose
Lightning
Litter
Mark
Minute
Mother
Needle
Note
Press
Smoothie
Snap
Spy
Sumo
Tattoo
Triangle

it's even, eb is up

briskly - 2

usually brisk is used for walking or wind or talking...nothing here is super popping out, but here are some options to consider:

amazon - gets you your packages quickly
book - maybe you read a book quickly
lightning - people use this for rapid things also; fast as lightning, quick as lightning, etc
minute - the short time period evokes same things as fast walking or quick replies
note - a brisk note, but this is briskly, not brisk
press - also the short time period, pressing someone to act, etc
snap - doing something quickly is to do it in a snap


but he used briskly, not quickly or even brisk; brisk would be more for wind and is an adjective while briskly is the adverb form, so applies to actions...like walking or talking briskly

I like minute and snap. Seems like an odd clue, but I assume he was just trying to avoid lightning.

I’m good with those 2

IBD, thoughts?

Maybe press over snap actually

You press someone to do it briskly

Snap>>>>>press imo. I might even like it more than minute.

Ok; if IBD agrees then bold

If not, we’ll discuss

Minute
Snap

pass

Oh right, thanks

both red