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09-27-2013 , 06:33 PM
While I wait for well named to hopefully clarify whether DividedSky is gambit or not:

I see multiple misuses of "commentary mode" so far

"Commentary mode" is when someone provides a play-by-play of past events without adding any new thoughts, much like sports commentary, hence the name

Example of commentary mode:

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Alice votes Bob

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Bob defends himself from Alice's vote

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Alice elaborates her case on Bob, she says his quoted post is wolfy because the case on Chuck doesn't make sense

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Bob explains his case on Chuck

As you can see, whoever wrote that didn't add anything of value that you couldn't get from rereading the thread.

The entire reason the phrase exists and denotes posts a wolf more commonly makes is because wolves want to emulate a villager game and so want to make multiquote rereads and such, but wolves have perfect information so they don't actually have any insight as to what the material means for the players' roles, so if they're not careful they end up just posting a summary of what happened and nothing else. On the other hand, it's very difficult for an earnest villager to read an interaction without having some opinion on it.

You could literally rand() between "wolfy" and "villagery" and stick the randed word onto the end of each sentence and it wouldn't be commentary mode. It could very well be wolfy as all hell, but it would be wolfy on the merits (this read doesn't follow, etc.).

This is important because saying something is "commentary mode" is essentially calling the poster a wolf for providing no content, so if the poster did provide some original thoughts, it's wrong.
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09-27-2013 , 06:33 PM
dividedsky == gambit

HUStylez: thank you. Keep going
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09-27-2013 , 06:36 PM
oh bleh I quoted the wrong post, sorry luckbox

Didn't read carefully enough since I knew you made more or less the same clear.

can we just stipulate that you did?

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no clarification on DividedSky is forthcoming so I'm going to reread someone else

unvote after reading HUstylez' last post because it is solid.
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09-27-2013 , 06:36 PM
felix looking much better right now liking his reread efforts. is there an easier way to multi quote posts haha I should start taking notes or something

iyo is gambit more likely to post less as a villa or wolf?
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09-27-2013 , 06:37 PM
Updated Revised Lynch List

bhuber
charry
comeasur
dividedsky
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09-27-2013 , 06:43 PM
lots of these wagons seem to be getting resistance, good sign probably, but lots of ppl mentioned hoya as wolfy yet a wagon with him couldn't get started, and now since hes at 100 seems to have some sort of get out of jail free card

is lynching a top poster day 1 really that bad?
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09-27-2013 , 06:46 PM
Do not get all the bhuber village leans, need to look into that tomorrow

More divi votes are encouraged
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09-27-2013 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HUstylez
lots of these wagons seem to be getting resistance, good sign probably, but lots of ppl mentioned hoya as wolfy yet a wagon with him couldn't get started, and now since hes at 100 seems to have some sort of get out of jail free card

is lynching a top poster day 1 really that bad?
Everybody can't be a wolf. "Resistance" means nothing/is non-existent

Chris,

Vote for VMF. It can happen
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09-27-2013 , 06:51 PM
VarianceMinefield
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09-27-2013 , 06:51 PM
rereading DividedGambit right now but I have a really weird story

last night I dreamed about this game (chalk it up to the Tetris Effect)

I'm sure multiple things happened but I specifically remember that I dreamed that Tappokone's entrance to the thread was way different from his usual, highly distinctive entrance to the thread in which he says "as usual I have randed villager" and goes on to make some prepared posts including one with links to his past games

lo and behold, I'm rereading, and Tappokone's entrance to the thread was way different from his usual, highly distinctive entrance to the thread

omg felix are you a wizard?
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09-27-2013 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Everybody can't be a wolf. "Resistance" means nothing/is non-existent

Chris,

Vote for VMF. It can happen
I've been wanting to vote VMF for a while but:

despite playing with him for a number of years I still often read him as wolf when he's a villager, his style just sets of drudgealarm.gif's in my head no matter what

I want to do him full credit and reread him before voting him
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09-27-2013 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
VarianceMinefield
ChrisJdk?

I am not sure why you want to vote me. I think we have a lot of similar reads. I feel good about lynching mexeneil, chris, probably not felix anymore but i dont trust him

i lost my villa lean on divided sky
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09-27-2013 , 06:56 PM
fwiw in my dream I think I insta-snap-voted-forever Tappokone for it

but Tappokone's first few posts are very villagery

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Originally Posted by tappokone
Why didn't the thoughts in the second paragraph about how talking about mayor mechanics is villagery apply to Felix?



You almost simultaneously give thoughts on Redd's start and opine that there's nothing worthwhile to be gleaned from Redd's start. I don't understand.



Your posts Redd make it seem like you're undecided on him. Everything you post about other people's opinions on Redd makes it seem like he's a strong villager lean for you. What gives?
I like pulling in multiple things that happened at different times in the thread into this multiquote, shows excellent thread awareness, he clearly read the thread carefully and actually cared about what people were saying about other people.
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09-27-2013 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
i havent read the thread

i just think the way u cleared pizzaguy was scummy
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
im kind of annoyed that this game uses other sites lingo for the roles

i dont want to read it all


And well named your lynch list looks awful to me.
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09-27-2013 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
ChrisJdk?

I am not sure why you want to vote me. I think we have a lot of similar reads. I feel good about lynching mexeneil, chris, probably not felix anymore but i dont trust him

i lost my villa lean on divided sky
how come you lost your villa lean there now? weird timing seeing as you're getting votes and divided seems to be the next hot name to throw out

mexineil lynch is tho
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09-27-2013 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
FOR VMF



(quoting the above)


(talking about pizzaguy ldo)


all giving pizza villa leans in essentially the same way as me

if you are being honest and forthright in your belief that the way in which I cleared pizza makes me a wolf, congratulations you just found the entire wolf team d1 gjge gg rerand
I read different people differently, simple as that

you should know, i have high respect for your game, and that is why i found your pizza guy villa lean to be scummy

i also felt like your mayor talk was for villa points and not for the actual benefit of the village

im not gonna push you tonight, but i certainly dont trust you

and i think you need to reconsider pizzaguy

literally 80 percent of his posts are just aggressively campaigning for mayor

its not even important who gets it imo
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09-27-2013 , 06:58 PM
vmf are you still frozen about what I pointed out?

fwiw chrisjrdk's post was actually about Redd, my mistake, sorry.

you will clearly have to do some #work to find that last wolf
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09-27-2013 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HUstylez
how come you lost your villa lean there now? weird timing seeing as you're getting votes and divided seems to be the next hot name to throw out

mexineil lynch is tho
oh just because i havent seen him say much other than his original post that i gave him a villa lean for

i dont want to lynch him

i really want to lynch mex or chrisjdk
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09-27-2013 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp


And well named your lynch list looks awful to me.
yeah i meant different lingo for roleblocker, angel etc

not scummy or town, i like those names

i read the whole thread last night at like 3 am
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09-27-2013 , 07:00 PM
Votes from post 1 to post 1044
Night in 1:00:58

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VotesLynchVoters
3 ReddBoiler tmleafs1967 (81), Askthepizzaguy (100), ReddBoiler (38)
2 bhuber2010 tappokone (33), CPHoya (100)
2 VarianceMinefield ShipItUp (81), Luckbox Inc (91)
2 DividedSky chrisrjdk (66), well named (98)
2 CPHoya HUstylez (41), comeasur337 (15)
2 Askthepizzaguy thediceman (21), mexineil (24)
1 chrisrjdk VarianceMinefield (55)
1 well named DividedSky (37)
1 comeasur337 Xkf (43)
1 unvote Felix the Cat (51)
2 not voting Charry (14), bhuber2010 (31)
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09-27-2013 , 07:00 PM
Felix, have you literally pushed anyone this game? Have you made a case against anyone this game?
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09-27-2013 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
you should know, i have high respect for your game, and that is why i found your pizza guy villa lean to be scummy


also:

you don't have high respect for well named's and luckbox's games?
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09-27-2013 , 07:03 PM
I am going to quote some dividedsky posts

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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Sup

I am a villager

As of now I am not concerned with running for mayor. I might change my mind later on but not sure.

I like WN thus far-seems to be more focused on ww than the mayor thing

I dont like Pizza thus far- seems to be more focused on the mayor thing than ww


This should be an interesting game with these roles. I am mostly a Vanilla player, with a splash of Vanilla+ and some Mish Mashes thrown in. Not sure how all the roles work and affect everything but I am expecting to have fun known the less.
There is a consistent theme that I want to point out about his wolf reads. They are all for fairly superficial seemingly arbitrary reasons. "Focusing on one thing is wolfy" is the theme here. I don't really believe that he thinks this way about wolf hunting.

Secondly, he says he is expecting to have fun none-the-less. This has been a long and pretty high-volume d1. Lots of reads, lots of arguing, no consensus wagons. It's pretty high level werewolf. Is dividedsky having fun? I'm not seeing it.

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Originally Posted by DividedSky
The Hoya/Redd thing seems strange to me. Not sure why Hoya goes on about it all night long? If you have a read, cool. If someone disagrees about it who gives a ****? I would have expected Hoya to make his reads, let them be known, and move on to the next person. No idea why he focused on it for so long.

Furthermore, by focusing on it that long he got into it with SIU. Now, imo. SIU is a pretty reasonable player. Sometimes he tunnels and wont drop issues either but for the most part he is a solid player who adjusts as he goes.

The interaction with Hoya/SIU was irritating to follow also. Imo, SIU was right and Hoya was wrong. Make a point and then let it be. Not everyone has to agree with you.

Sidenote: Hoya could very well be correct about Redd. I think some of his points were valid. Its the way Hoya handled it the situation that I find extremely wolfy.

Focusing on one thing seems wolfy to me.

That being said, the next person who I find wolfy should be obv. Pizzaguy.

His focus on being the mayor is just mind blowing. I get it, you want to be mayor. I got it the first 10 posts you made about it. The next how many posts were just wasted posts.

Another thing that bothers me about the Pizza guy is his posts about me. I made two posts yesterday. One being a gif saying hello and another being a post about not caring about runnning for mayor and being excited to see how these roles play out here on 2p2. He sure did seem to have a lot to say about me based of those posts. Would love to hear why but I cant since he blew all his posts already. Sick way to play the game imo.

Cliffs: top two wolf leans

Hoya
Pizzaguy

Hoya
This is a very long post. All it says is a repeat of the first post, something like "tunneling is wolfy". It's so much commentary for so little content. It's again superficial. villager gambit/dividedsky, the turbo player, does not feel the need to use so many words to say so little.

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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Xkf votes me and states some lolreasons for it.

I explain why they are lolreasons

Xkf never responds back

Wolfy

Hoya/Pizza/Xkf
again, superficial. It's not that the basis of the read is entirely invalid, it's that he just finds something, tacks it on the list, and that's the last we hear of it. This is not wolf hunting.

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Originally Posted by DividedSky
No problem

I just voted for you cuz you said you were not impressed with my villageriness. Please link me to any game where you were impressed with my villageriness.

TIA
Again, it's obvious his hunting is very shallow when something like this causes him to change his vote to me, a person he can't help but acknowledge has been putting a ton of villagery effort into the game.

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Originally Posted by DividedSky
I have not seen anything wolfy from him but then again I am not making up reasons to call him a villager iykwim
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
that is true, I dont make up anything

Just call them like I see them
These posts are reminiscent to the kind of snarky trolling I have seen a lot in his wolf game. That is a less strong observation than the former, but worth nothing

Please lynch:

dividedsky
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09-27-2013 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat


also:

you don't have high respect for well named's and luckbox's games?
i dont know luckboxes game(i put him down as a wolfy villager based on what others said)

and i think well nameds other posts were very villagery
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09-27-2013 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
Felix, have you literally pushed anyone this game? Have you made a case against anyone this game?
yesterday I left too early to be able to confidently push anyone - usually I come into d1 well into the day and skip past the early fluff, rather than participating in it

right now I am "soft pushing" VMF, I guess

because it's VMF and I read him terribly I want to be sure before voting him.
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