How is it that every time I raise with A/x and the flop is XYY, they have Y?

EG: AQ flop is 55Q and he's playing.......57?

timebank for a second to let the shuffler 1 tick forward for a qq5 flop with a 5 turn

-8BI today

i hate everyone

Villain is a 35/15 over ~400 hands, cbets 60% of the time and barrels turn 40% of the time

how's all that studying going

check/raising the flop seems terrible to me. Also his c-bet/barrel stats don't mean much when you're the PFR. You'd care more about his fold to flop c-bet% and raise flop c-bet%, and his bet vs missed c-bet% (or bet in position)

I think it's OK to just c-bet this flop OOP even if the only reason for doing it is to prevent him from bluffing. It's one of those spots where even when you're ahead a lot the reverse implied odds make it kind of hard to check/call down against almost anyone, and even if you rarely fold better hands, you do get called by some worse hands, especially against an average 35/15. And you are better able to realize the equity you actually have by getting him to fold a bunch of the hands that might bluff you out.

And the thing about check/raising, especially small, is you aren't going to fold anything that wouldn't have folded to a lead, and since you aren't getting any of his draws to fold you basically just build a bigger pot where you can't really play the turn on any card except a ten.

you could check/call anyway (despite what I said) against someone you had an idea would bluff once and then give up (so you don't suffer the RIO) but otherwise I'd either c-bet or check/fold, and usually c-bet.

What are reverse implied odds?

my exam was yesterday, it went well

I'll just PM you so no one can criticize my probably suboptimal definition.

or this

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...ue#Post8121403

damn, i guess I shouldn't use the uNL stickies, that thread is lol

wtfrudoin systo

In Sydney for anzpt gunna get my live on. Living the life of a pro all I need now is to win some money haha

rofl systolic

Don't worry, Systo. I don't hate the check-raise.



Edit: but for realz you gotta bet enough they will fold. Like $4 or $5.

c/ring the flop makes the hand so much less enjoyable to play imo keep poker simple

The guy was a station preflop, and the flop didnt seem like one I should be particularly afraid of. I knew how aggressive he was postflop based on his stats, and I wasn't terribly worried about a queen, and I also knew it was VERY likely for him to bet at me, so I planned to check-raise the flop from the outset.

I had the best hand all the way down though, so I wasn't getting my money in 'bad' per se. I had the right read but I guess I should have played it differently.

this sort of thing pisses me off. No stats, but i just got caught 3 betting light and then playing passively K2 on Q42,x,x, by his TT.



Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($25)
BB ($30.52)
Hero ($25)
BTN ($18.78)

Dealt to Hero J K

Hero raises to $1, fold, fold, BB calls $0.75

FLOP ($2.10) 3 A 2

BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $4.75, Hero folds

BB wins $4.85

These kinds of hands are the absolute most tilt invoking hands ever.

Villain is 63/33 with 17% 3bet range over 120 hands.


[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8980262

SB: $8.22 (82.2 bb)
BB: $7.12 (71.2 bb)
MP: $4.58 (45.8 bb)
CO: $12.73 (127.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, BB calls $2

Flop: ($7.50) 8 3 A (3 players)
SB bets $5.72, 2 folds

And somehow that ****ing donk has a winrate of 17bb/100 (I know lol sample size, but still)

no, you obviously don't know lol sample size.

Sample size was 120 hands

How much more lol sample size does it get?

you have the backdoor nutflush draw, easy ship

Dude

Seriously, I cant tell if you are levelling or not in half your posts, but if you are I would rather not be confused even further.

your sample size is approx. 0.2% of the sample you really want to be talking about win rates. So pretty lol, imo.

From what I understand, a backdoor flush draw only adds about 9% equity to your hand, and considering that I read him on an ace, that gives me about 10% equity from the 2 kings left and 9% equity from the draw.

How is that an easy ship against an ace?

well, it's weird, why would he bet AK on the flop given the preflop action?