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01-14-2021 , 05:03 PM

#6326

Xkf

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skimmed xander, kinda villagery

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01-14-2021 , 05:03 PM

#6327

Kukraprout

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01-14-2021 , 05:04 PM

#6328

Birdman10687

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QUESTION

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what is the point of industrialization if food is already free?

ANSWER

While collectivization does make the training of farmers and the funding of farmers (making and distributing food) free, you still NEED the farmers to be able to do this. That is, if you had 1 farmer but 100 people, even with collectivization they can only make 16 loaves of bread (or 8, in the case of a famine). Even with collectivization, if farmers get role blocked, or you don't have enough farmers, etc, the DPRoPOG could go hungry. Once industrialization happens, food is produce infinitely without the need of any farmers. Industrialization also frees up these farmers to be trained to do other, more useful endeavors (Respecialization).

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01-14-2021 , 05:05 PM

#6329

Birdman10687

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Current Player Platforms

Doctor Zeus 6096
fanmail 5792
Uglydelicious 6314
metsandfinsfan 6227
filtyhvermin 6170
xkf 6274
Sun Tzu 6236
Gadarene 6272

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01-14-2021 , 05:06 PM

#6330

Doctor Zeus

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Originally Posted by Viggorous

As in, I'm positive there's 2. Unless I'm misremembering.

I'm wrong. There are 2.

Cancel everything I've been saying recently

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01-14-2021 , 05:06 PM

#6331

Gadarene

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i mean there's a world where industrialization -> respecialization makes sense right now

ideal path was probably nationalization -> collectivization -> industrialization -> respecialization

everything got ****ed by the need to go for nukes

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01-14-2021 , 05:06 PM

#6332

Uglydelicious

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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus

I'm wrong. There are 2.

Cancel everything I've been saying recently

Ok, but you were right d1. If we had nationalized the space races woulda been ours. Gg

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01-14-2021 , 05:07 PM

#6333

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

seriously VR isn't even trying to pretend to be a villager guys

why do people not care about this

I'm listening.

Whats your case on her.

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01-14-2021 , 05:07 PM

#6334

Uglydelicious

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

Somewhere in there we wouldn’t have known about their nuclear plan, which we only knew because of FYP l. But yeah

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01-14-2021 , 05:07 PM

#6335

VoraciousReader

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Having iso'ed Globe, I can definitely get on board with a firing squad or a trip to Pogberia for him.

I just wish it didn't mean we had to wait on Wiggles.

I'm starting to rethink Communism. At least in Capitalist society we'd have a chance at a buy-one-get-one-free special on the executions.

Or a giant final close-out Every Wolf Must Go.

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01-14-2021 , 05:08 PM

#6336

Doctor Zeus

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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus

I'm not smart, but, these seem important:

From Monte's profile we know there were 3 Counter-Intelligence (we've lost him + CC.)

There have been 3 farmers (we've lost 1, Ladd)

From Cannon Fodders profile we know there were 3 Military (we've lost him)

There has been 1 seer killed (donk), and 1 watcher (shoreline.) I think we can assume we started with 3 based on the role profiles for Cannon Fodder/Monte

We've lost 1 non-role person (AMI) and one person we trained as a doctor (JM) who started without a role.

So what we know is that we've probably got 2 farmers, 2 military, 1 counter-intelligence, 1 surveillance left. Everyone else has no roles? How many villagers we got left?

We have:
- 2 farmers
- 1 counter-intelligence
- 2 military
- 1 doctor I think?
- 1 surveillance?

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01-14-2021 , 05:08 PM

#6337

VoraciousReader

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UglyDelicious

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01-14-2021 , 05:10 PM

#6338

filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

DAY 4 TEMPLATE

uglyd’s Day 4 Presidential Platform (v1)

Military ($105 per action): $210
Surveillance ($90 per action): $0
Counter-Intelligence ($30 per action): $0
Healthcare ($75 per action): $0
Food ($0 per action): $0 x5

Education
Doctors ($25 per training): $25
Farmers ($0 per training): $0 x3

Space Race: $

Pandemic
Vaccine (non-discrete): $0
Lockdown Protocols (non-discrete): $5
Rapid Testing ($15): $0
Complete Lockdown (yes/no): no

Policy: Nationalization

Hmm here is another idea idk

im not gonna keep copying every single one of UD's posts, and making more work for birdman. i will just wait til late in the day, and copy whatever her latest platform is

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01-14-2021 , 05:10 PM

#6339

Doctor Zeus

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

Ok, but you were right d1. If we had nationalized the space races woulda been ours. Gg

Thanks. Your plans good today but please train more farmers.

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01-14-2021 , 05:13 PM

#6340

fanmail

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uglyd

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01-14-2021 , 05:13 PM

#6341

Kukraprout

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I think we should have at least 2 surveillance including a seer left, because only one rarely-funded seer in a game this size is lol.

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01-14-2021 , 05:14 PM

#6342

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

DAY 4 TEMPLATE

filthyvermin copying uglyd, but also killing chilltown Day 4 Presidential Platform (v1)

Military ($105 per action): $105
Surveillance ($90 per action): $0
Counter-Intelligence ($30 per action): $30
Healthcare ($75 per action): $75
Food ($0 per action): $0 x5

Education
Doctors ($25 per training): $25
Farmers ($0 per training): $0 x3

Space Race: $0

Pandemic
Vaccine (non-discrete): $0
Lockdown Protocols (non-discrete): $15
Rapid Testing ($15): $0
Complete Lockdown (yes/no): no

Policy: Nationalization

kill chilltown

Your only thing on me is that I'm a lost wolf.

That's terrible. You were there when me and someone thought there were no lost Wolves in the game based on mod posting.

Even if I am a lost wolf that means there's no spew since I wouldn't know who my teammates are.

Clearly there's like 8 better options.

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01-14-2021 , 05:14 PM

#6343

Doctor Zeus

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

Benefits of respecialization faster:
- If we lose any more of our trained roles, we lose all flexibility. But when we get all our new roles, we might not be able to use the actions as we lack money

Benefits of nationalisation faster:
- We can spend more money today. We can spend more money than the wolves every day (give or take). Downside, is we might lose the roles to do things with.

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01-14-2021 , 05:14 PM

#6344

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by Chilltown

I'm listening.

Whats your case on her.

she isn't villagery

(I elaborated a bit yesterday, but she seems barely interested in finding wolves or clearing villas or what the village is or isn't doing; very different from what i'm used to from her as a villager)

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01-14-2021 , 05:16 PM

#6345

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Having said that wrt Wiggles, it does bother me quite a bit he seems to just show up when he's the talk of the town, post a little and then fade out. Even though low impact Wiggles isn't necessarily AI, he usually plays to win, but he's not really making reads, he's just posting.

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01-14-2021 , 05:18 PM

#6346

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by wahoopride

Part of me wants to kill Chilltown on shortline's rec now but I don't really remember what Chill has done. He makes a lot of long posts I don't read.

I don't make long posts.

They're short and to the point everytime.

Everyone soft pushing me has the worst reasons or no reason at all.

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01-14-2021 , 05:18 PM

#6347

filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by Chilltown

hmmm..... this makes sense.

i think i'm convinced.

i'll switch to globe, wiggles, or aaronk

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01-14-2021 , 05:19 PM

#6348

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

hmmm..... this makes sense.

i think i'm convinced.

i'll switch to globe, wiggles, or aaronk

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01-14-2021 , 05:20 PM

#6349

fanmail

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not for luckbox's eyes

Spoiler:

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01-14-2021 , 05:20 PM

#6350

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

Gadarene's let's kill wolves plan

Military ($105 per action): $210
Surveillance ($90 per action): $0
Counter-Intelligence ($30 per action): $30
Healthcare ($75 per action): $0
Food ($0 per action): 5 x $0

Education
Doctors ($25 per training): $0
Farmers ($0 per training): 3 x $0

Space Race: $0

Pandemic
Vaccine (non-discrete): $0
Lockdown Protocols (non-discrete): $0
Rapid Testing ($15): $0
Complete Lockdown (yes/no): no

Policy: Nationalization

vote for me and I will ABSOLUTELY execute a wolf

I'm with you. You were right and clear about yawn.

[B][Gadarene/B]

Dont tell me people are actually voting for filthy lol.

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