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02-02-2019 , 10:32 PM

#426

rtspurs

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So in our most complex scoring round yet, here is where we stand before the primary judge has his say:

Meat	D1iab	PokerCray	irtm	JM3/NotEric		Total	Rank	Drafter
Bacon (2)	20	16	18	9		63	1	CrimsonFox
Ribeye Steaks (1)	14	14	12	10		50	2	xander biscuits
Porterhouse (3)	12	12	20	6		50	2	bolt2112
Fried Chicken (5)	18	10	14	7		49	4	eyebooger
Chicken Wings (9)	16	6	16	8		46	5	DonkDonkDonkDonk
Crab Legs (5)	6	20	10	4		40	6	filthyvermin
Lobster (4)	8	18	2	5		33	7	Carl_Spackler
Shrimp (5)	10	8	4	3		25	8	eleanor60
Cheeseburger (5)	4	4	8	2		18	9	Nicholasp27
Steak Tartare (9)	2	2	6	1		11	10	Priptonite
	110	110	110	55	0

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02-02-2019 , 10:34 PM

#427

rtspurs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerCrazy94

Hahahaha

Any of kangaroo/alligator/rabbit/squirrel/ostrich/pheasant/venison would've scored well with me too

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02-02-2019 , 10:37 PM

#428

rtspurs

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Our primary judge:

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Originally Posted by insanity

12 year old me would have given you first or second probably. Unfortunate that you caught me 20 years later!

10th: Cheeseburger (Nicholasp27)

Again, definitely would have scored higher for teen-inanity. Pretty sure this selection has the lowest satisfaction (meat consumed/time spent) ratio.

9th: Chicken Wings (DonkDonkDonkDonk)

Like I said at the end of the draft, my #1 meat wasn't taken. At least I think I would have ranked it #1, maybe would have depended on the write-up. Anyway, I'm talking about sashimi... there's really nothing like high quality sashimi imo. Well, I kinda hate ranking this selection so low because I'm almost positive I'd like it, but I've never had it. Sorry. At least you didn't get last!

8th: Steak Tartare (Priptonite)

Definitely overrated, as someone mentioned in the draft. Would rather have [redacted] instead for numerous reasons.*

7th: Lobster (Carl_Spackler)

Spoiler:

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02-02-2019 , 10:40 PM

#429

rtspurs

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Bacon and chicken wings take a tumble there. Final meat rankings:

Meat	D1iab	PokerCray	irtm	JM3/NotEric		Total	Rank	Drafter
Ribeye Steaks (1)	14	14	12	10	40	90	1	xander biscuits
Porterhouse (3)	12	12	20	6	36	86	2	bolt2112
Bacon (2)	20	16	18	9	20	83	3	CrimsonFox
Fried Chicken (5)	18	10	14	7	28	77	4	eyebooger
Crab Legs (5)	6	20	10	4	32	72	5	filthyvermin
Chicken Wings (9)	16	6	16	8	8	54	6	DonkDonkDonkDonk
Lobster (4)	8	18	2	5	16	49	7	Carl_Spackler
Shrimp (5)	10	8	4	3	24	49	7	eleanor60
Steak Tartare (9)	2	2	6	1	12	23	9	Priptonite
Cheeseburger (5)	4	4	8	2	4	22	10	Nicholasp27
	110	110	110	55	220

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02-02-2019 , 10:41 PM

#430

POGcrazy94

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I hope everyone knows which one in my list was a joke...

Yum this reveal is making me hungry for some meaty meat

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02-02-2019 , 10:41 PM

#431

D1iabol1cal

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Surprised nobody picked lamb or pork, or even fish.

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02-02-2019 , 10:42 PM

#432

CrimsonFox

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bacon officially disavows all knowledge of you and refuses to be eaten by you forevermore

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02-02-2019 , 10:42 PM

#433

rtspurs

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Bolt knocks Nichp off the top. xander and Crimson make big moves too:

Rank	Total	Entrant	Useful Kitchen Item	Pts	1986 Movie	Pts	Holiday Gift	Pts	Ridiculous Name	Pts	Meat/Seafood	Pts	Worst Pro Sports Franchise	Pts	World Cup Football Player	Pts	Iconic Photograph	Pts	Pie	Pts	#1 Song	Pts
1	434	bolt2112	Coffee Maker (10)		Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1)	71	Straight Cash Homie (2)		Wonderful Terrific Monds Jr. (6)	83	Porterhouse (3)	86	Buffalo Bills (7)	71	Klose (4)	54	Mansfield/Loren*(9)		Chocolate Silk (8)	69	Hey Ya - Outkast (5)
2	409	Nicholasp27	Range (2)		Platoon (4)	85	Car (6)		Harry Baals (7)	59	Cheeseburger (5)	22	Montreal Expos (9)	48	Pele (1)	101	Abbey Road*(10)		Apple (3)	94	Not Afraid - Eminem*(8)
3	404	xander biscuits	Tongs (6)		Blue Velvet (4)	64	Concert tickets (7)		North West (5)	42	Ribeye Steaks (1)	90	LA Clippers (8)	73	Ronaldo (Brazil) (2)	91	The Kiss (3)		Mississippi Mud (10)	44	Smooth - Santana feat. Rob Thomas*(9)
4	397	DonkDonkDonkDonk	Chef's Knife (2)		Stand By Me (4)	77	Pet (10)		Metta World Peace (8)	70	Chicken Wings (9)	54	Minnesota Timberwolves (7)	43	Zidane (3)	74	Tank Man*(1)		Pecan (6)	79	Crazy In Love - Beyonce f. Jay-Z (5)
5	379	CrimsonFox	Microwave (6)		Big Trouble in Little China (3)	59	Gift Cards (4)		Moxie Crimefighter Jillette (7)	78	Bacon (2)	83	Cleveland Indians (8)	60	Neymar (10	18	Vietnam War*(1)		Cherry (5)	81	Happy - Pharell Williams*(9)
6	368	Carl_Spackler	Refrigerator (2)		The Fly (6)	50	Alcoholic beverages (9)		Rusty Kuntz (10)	84	Lobster (4)	49	Cleveland Browns (1)	86	Garrincha (7)	49	Lunch Atop a Skyscraper (5)		Chicken Pot Pie (8)	50	Lose Yourself - Eminem (3)
7	336	Priptonite	Frying Pan (2)		Aliens (3)	96	Special Sexytime (8)		Moon Unit Zappa (7)	59	Steak Tartare (9)	23	Detroit Lions (1)	84	Beckenbauer (5)	50	Marilyn Monroe*(10)		Meat (4)	24	In Da Club - 50 Cent (6)
8	327	eyebooger	Dishwasher (2)		Castle In the Sky (10)	15	Dinner at a nice restaurant (7)		Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (3)	51	Fried Chicken (5)	77	Toronto Maple Leafs (6)	51	Maradona (1)	96	Pale Blue Dot*(8)		Chocolate Peanut Butter (4)	37	Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars*(9)
9	319	eleanor60	Kitchen Sink (2)		Top Gun (1)	50	A holiday (6)		Yoshie Take****a (9)	26	Shrimp (5)	49	Sacramento Kings (7)	51	Matthäus (4)	53	The Terror of War (3)		Key Lime (10)	90	I Gotta Feeling - Black Eyed Peas*(8)
10	257	filthyvermin	Kitchen Slave (2)		Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home (7)	38	Dream home (9)		Abcde (3)	53	Crab Legs (5)	72	Washington Generals (4)	38	Taylor Swift (10)	19	Woman Falling From Fire Escape*(1)		Banana Cream (6)	37	Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye*(8)
				0		605		0		605		605		605		605		0		605		0

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02-02-2019 , 10:46 PM

#434

JMurder3

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Tartare & meat pie...I know whose house I'm not going to for dinner.

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02-02-2019 , 10:47 PM

#435

POGcrazy94

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Don't worry JM3, he has a frying pan

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02-02-2019 , 10:48 PM

#436

D1iabol1cal

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A good meat pie is really good, but a bad one is godawful. And unfortunately, most of them are the latter.

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02-02-2019 , 10:49 PM

#437

rtspurs

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Let's go for a video category: DonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDonkDo nkDonkDonkDonkDonk's Greatest Televised Poker Hand

Joining Donk's panel are eyebooger, Priptonite and CrimsonFox xander biscuits, with guest judge JM3 bringing up the rear.

mod note: lolTVpoker

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02-02-2019 , 10:50 PM

#438

CrimsonFox

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what? I didn't judge that

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02-02-2019 , 10:52 PM

#439

rtspurs

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As JM3 has included the links in his rankings, let's look at his rankings first, and you guys can review the hands if such is your want.

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

Rank	Televised Poker Hand	Drafter	Note
1	Dwan Bluffs Ivey (1)	SuqAta8	Fun hand, huge amounts of $$$ involved.
2	Jarvis vs. Mizrachi (8)	rtspurs	Loud excited crowd, a rollercoaster of emotions, lots of money on the line…but in the end it's just a flip. Conflicting. Dunno, 2-7 are all pretty similar to me, so the atmosphere will lift this one up…
3	Farha vs Gold AA vs KK (5)	D1iabol1cal	Weird azz hand. Kind of amusing, but wtf?
4	Phil Ivey vs Paul Jackson (5)	chuckleslovakian	Poor video quality, & I think it would be more fun if it was cash (although I'm sure there was a fair amount of $ involved, just missing that context from the clip). Not a bad hand, though.
5	Kitai call vs Chen (6)	insanity31	It's an impressive call, but it doesn't seem like they're playing anything too important & it was for a pretty small % of the chips. Wonder what % of the time he's bluffing with better than ace high…
6	Phil Hellmuth vs. Ernest Wiggins (9)	True North	I can't help but enjoy how miserable Helmuth is…otherwise it's kind of silly, but kinda fun.
7	Moneymaker Effect (10)	aaronk56	Remarkably similar board to the Mizrachi hand. I don't know. I just can't be excited about someone in a Stevie Franchise shirt losing, even if it did help the making me a lot of $$$ in poker cause.
8	Know your Opponents Hand (5)	iraisetoomuch	Kind of funny. Hadn't seen this before. Not like something I would ever want to watch again, though.
9	Henry Tran v Alcober (2)	PokerCrazy94	I don't have time to watch a 17 minute video, but I advanced to the important looking parts. Kinda funny/silly, but meh.
10	Tony G (10)	Eric	Film quality is awful. Don't really enjoy the antics. Some of it is semi-funny, but meh.

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02-02-2019 , 10:53 PM

#440

rtspurs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what? I didn't judge that

no idea what you're talking about

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02-02-2019 , 10:55 PM

#441

CrimsonFox

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you scared me

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02-02-2019 , 10:59 PM

#442

rtspurs

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Priptonite has first say from the secondary judges:

Spoiler:

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02-02-2019 , 11:03 PM

#443

rtspurs

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eyebooger says:

Rank	Hand
10	Tony G vs Ralph Perry - Didn't really like this at all. Just a guy being a dick.
9	Jarvis vs Mizrachi - A rollercoaster for sure, but unless you're actually one of these two, the importance isn't very high.
8	Tran vs Alcober - Seems like a couple of tired guys making bad decisions
7	Jackson vs Ivey - Seems like more intelligent aggression than Tran/Alcober, but not as intriguing as the top half of the list.
6	Chen vs Kitai - Nice to see super aggression not work out. Pretty average for excitement, so it lands in the middle.
5	Moneymaker vs Ivey - Basically the same as Jarvis/Mizrachi, but so much more important. Had you selected the Boyd/Moneymaker hand that happened earlier, it would have podiumed.
4	Ivey vs Dwan - Best part of this is how pained Ivey is before folding.
3	Wiggins vs Hellmuth - Always great to see Phil lose. Without Tony G at the end, this would have been top 2.
2	Farha vs Gold - Not great poker, but the entertainment value is off the charts.
1	Exposed hand - Loved every bit of this. Bonus points for "parsley".

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02-02-2019 , 11:06 PM

#444

rtspurs

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xander says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xander biscuits

1 Kitai call vs Chen
This is what I look for in a poker hand. Great play from Kitai and it’s a hand that’s not reliant on a cold deck to be interesting.

2 Phil Hellmuth vs Ernest Wiggins
The luck involved in the hand is one thing, but this doesn’t become a classic hand without all the characters involved. You’ve got a Hellmuth emotionally in decline and an amateur in emotional up tick and the peanut gallery giving Hellmuth the needle the whole time. Fun clip.

3 Dwan Bluffs Ivey
It’s a good clip. Interesting to see a hand played completely differently than I would play it. If I was Dwan then I don’t bluff and if I was Ivey I snap fold. Reminds me that it’s not just a game of who gets the best cards in the best positions. There’s still space for creativity.

4 Moneymaker Effect
It’s a cold deck which in itself isn’t too interesting but it’s got the historical context to it which is why it’s ranked this high.

5 Farha vs Fold AA vs KK
Oh dear God, just shut up already guys. Doyle’s got the right idea about this one. It’s interesting and fun to a point, but it goes on way too long and is way too repetitive.

6 Know your opponents hand
It’s a quirky hand, but it’s kinda dumb too. It’s also less interesting because it doesn’t involve anyone famous and the clip cuts out too early for my liking. It’s a decent draft pick because it might be something that people haven’t seen before, but I saw this one years ago.

7 Phil Ivey vs Paul Jackson
Lots of button clicking for the sake of it. Take away Phil Ivey, and put this on day 1 of a MTT and everyone calls it out for what it is: A dumb dick swinging contest. A greater number of bets on any particular street does not make a better hand poker.

8 Henry Tran v Alcober
Lots of button clicking for the sake of it. A dumb dick swinging contest. A greater number of bets on any particular street does not make a better hand of poker.

9 Jarvis vs Mizrachi
How could you possibly pick this hand when the Moneymaker vs Ivey one was still available?! It’s the same hand which is just a cold deck and there’s less historical significance behind it.

10 Tony G
Tony G shouting at someone doesn’t make a good hand of poker.

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02-02-2019 , 11:07 PM

#445

D1iabol1cal

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I hate how the exposed hand clip is chopped off before it finishes. Apparently the guy called, according to comments, which decreases its value somewhat imo. I'm not even sure why the guy bet the river either, unless he was expecting a shove, which he obviously wasn't.

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02-02-2019 , 11:08 PM

#446

rtspurs

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Scores before main judge:

Televised Poker Hand	Prip	eb	xander	JM3	Donk	Total	Rank	Drafter
Kitai call vs Chen (6)	20	10	20	6		56	1	insanity31
Dwan Bluffs Ivey (1)	14	14	16	10		54	2	SuqAta8
Know your Opponents Hand (5)	18	20	10	3		51	3	iraisetoomuch
Farha vs Gold AA vs KK (5)	10	18	12	8		48	4	D1iabol1cal
Phil Hellmuth vs. Ernest Wiggins (9)	8	16	18	5		47	5	True North
Phil Ivey vs Paul Jackson (5)	12	8	8	7		35	6	chuckleslovakian
Moneymaker Effect (10)	4	12	14	4		34	7	aaronk56
Henry Tran v Alcober (2)	16	6	6	2		30	8	PokerCrazy94
Jarvis vs. Mizrachi (8)	6	4	4	9		23	9	rtspurs
Tony G (10)	2	2	2	1		7	10	Eric
	110	110	110	55	0

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02-02-2019 , 11:10 PM

#447

rtspurs

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DonkDonkDonkDonk says:

Spoiler:

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02-02-2019 , 11:14 PM

#448

rtspurs

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Final rankings for Greatest Televised Poker Hand:

Televised Poker Hand	Prip	eb	xander	JM3	Donk	Total	Rank	Drafter
Dwan Bluffs Ivey (1)	14	14	16	10	40	94	1	SuqAta8
Kitai call vs Chen (6)	20	10	20	6	36	92	2	insanity31
Farha vs Gold AA vs KK (5)	10	18	12	8	32	80	3	D1iabol1cal
Know your Opponents Hand (5)	18	20	10	3	20	71	4	iraisetoomuch
Phil Hellmuth vs. Ernest Wiggins (9)	8	16	18	5	16	63	5	True North
Phil Ivey vs Paul Jackson (5)	12	8	8	7	28	63	5	chuckleslovakian
Henry Tran v Alcober (2)	16	6	6	2	24	54	7	PokerCrazy94
Moneymaker Effect (10)	4	12	14	4	12	46	8	aaronk56
Jarvis vs. Mizrachi (8)	6	4	4	9	8	31	9	rtspurs
Tony G (10)	2	2	2	1	4	11	10	Eric
	110	110	110	55	220