POG Republic Game Thread
10-27-2010
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heh.
I followed this game pretty closely. I'd like to add a +1 to what birdman has posted since ml+1 (4 days ago). Minus the gratuitous insults.
He did as he said -- birdman guided the village through a tough spot to a good one. No wolf ever does that.
Anyways, I'd like to take a shot at some logic that was annoying to me. I've seen it in plenty of games, but especially in this one:
1. Titan does something that helps the wolf team
2. Titan says he would never do that as a wolf, because it would be too bold.
3. Titan claims he should be cleared for what he did.
The trouble is in step 2. Why would a wolf never do something that helps the wolf team a lot? The implied reason is helping the wolf team a lot gets you lynched. But if helping the wolf team a lot doesn't actually get you lynched, there's no reason for a wolf not to do it.
You can never clear a player for helping the wolf team. Doing so puts the incentives in the wrong direction. Which is not to say you can't clear them when they do something anti-village, but it has to be for a reason other than "a wolf would never do something that helps the wolf team".
Another common example of this is when a late game NK implicates player X, then people say "X would not make that kill, so I'm clearing him". Don't clear people for doing something that helps the wolf team.
From the sidelines, ibavly was obviously the wolf at F3. I don't know if I could have voted for him if I was in the game though. I know McAvoy and Dustin are able to set aside how painful it is to let somebody blatantly wolf (like Titan did) and win. Not many others would though. Kudos to birdman for being open minded.
Tough to win a 13er with 4 wolves.
I followed this game pretty closely. I'd like to add a +1 to what birdman has posted since ml+1 (4 days ago). Minus the gratuitous insults.
He did as he said -- birdman guided the village through a tough spot to a good one. No wolf ever does that.
Anyways, I'd like to take a shot at some logic that was annoying to me. I've seen it in plenty of games, but especially in this one:
1. Titan does something that helps the wolf team
2. Titan says he would never do that as a wolf, because it would be too bold.
3. Titan claims he should be cleared for what he did.
The trouble is in step 2. Why would a wolf never do something that helps the wolf team a lot? The implied reason is helping the wolf team a lot gets you lynched. But if helping the wolf team a lot doesn't actually get you lynched, there's no reason for a wolf not to do it.
You can never clear a player for helping the wolf team. Doing so puts the incentives in the wrong direction. Which is not to say you can't clear them when they do something anti-village, but it has to be for a reason other than "a wolf would never do something that helps the wolf team".
Another common example of this is when a late game NK implicates player X, then people say "X would not make that kill, so I'm clearing him". Don't clear people for doing something that helps the wolf team.
From the sidelines, ibavly was obviously the wolf at F3. I don't know if I could have voted for him if I was in the game though. I know McAvoy and Dustin are able to set aside how painful it is to let somebody blatantly wolf (like Titan did) and win. Not many others would though. Kudos to birdman for being open minded.
Tough to win a 13er with 4 wolves.
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