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06-21-2012 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
The MOST +EV way to have a chance with this girl is just to completely ignore her.

Out of the blue.

100%.

Dont answer calls, texts, emails, facebook messages, nothing.

Wait for about 3 months. In that 3 month period, cop a new look, work out some, find a new hobby, something, anything that makes her forget about the 'old you'. She may get mad at you, send you hateful things, but thats just her method of coping with the loss of her teddy bear.

When you contact her again, call her, and be very blunt. "Hey, I know we haven't talked in a while, but I just thought about you, and I have decided that I want to take you on a date."

MAKE SURE YOU SAY THE WORD DATE. If she declines, tell her no problem. Hang up, and repeat the cycle, but add on a month before you come in contact with her again.
this ^^^
06-21-2012 , 09:50 PM
I liked Amp's toast. Not surprised he plays guitar.
06-21-2012 , 09:51 PM
yea, CpHoya needs to post a shred toast
06-21-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Why would any woman want to be asked out repeatedly so much? also I really just want to get with her not date her. When I first met her she was a 10, dropped to a 6, but it's all for nostalgic purposes. I have friends of friends she's been with, kinda easy. So I am at such a loss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrio...ality_disorder
06-21-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
The funny thing is that you don't even have to be confident to get a girl to like you. You just have to appear that way long enough for her to develop an emotional attachment. Its stupid, I know, but thats how it works for whatever reason.
I agree with you 100%
06-21-2012 , 09:52 PM
oh yeah amp, your toast was effin great! good work man!
06-21-2012 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
this ^^^
meh i agree if you change most +EV to least -EV, because any attempt at winning this girl over is a massively -EV endeavor regardless

just pursue a girl who will not require uphill ice skating instead imo. girl sounds like a huge waste of time to me.

edit- no matter how much progress pyramid makes he'll inevitably regress to the state of her stringing him along. even if he gets to bang her he'll probably revert back to that, with all of the kickass girls in existence it's just suicidal to pursue.
06-21-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
meh i agree if you change most +EV to least -EV, because any attempt at winning this girl over is a massively -EV endeavor regardless

just pursue a girl who will not require uphill ice skating instead imo. girl sounds like a huge waste of time to me.
I think you are overlooking the last part of the post that I made

Its designed to lessen his attachment to her too in the case that she continually rejects him (which in most likelihood, she will)

EDIT: It also gives him the opportunity of doing things to improve himself, which will build confidence, which will intrinsically attract other girls, maybe attract old girl, etc.

Its extremely +EV.
06-21-2012 , 09:55 PM
forget about her
06-21-2012 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
I think you are overlooking the last part of the post that I made

Its designed to lessen his attachment to her too in the case that she continually rejects him (which in most likelihood, she will)

EDIT: It also gives him the opportunity of doing things to improve himself, which will build confidence, which will intrinsically attract other girls, maybe attract old girl, etc.

Its extremely +EV.
or he could just do that anyway in pursuit of worthwhile girls.

she's a stringer and he's a stringee, he can break the pattern for a spurt but not over the long haul. don't walk away, run imo
06-21-2012 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
or he could just do that anyway in pursuit of a worthwhile girl.

she's a stringer and he's a stringee, he can break the pattern for a spurt but not over the long haul. don't walk away, run imo
You've obviously never been irrationally attached to a girl before.

You're probably not that type.

Its not so easy as to just drop it and move on. I know this for a fact for people like me.
06-21-2012 , 09:58 PM
he says all he wants to do is bang her.

So he should spend months and months ignoring her and re-tooling himself into a whole new person?

**** that ****. Find someone who likes you for you.

She will probably be just as bat**** insane as this one...
06-21-2012 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
1) She likes attention. Sometimes girls aren't interested, but they like the attention and the flirting. So they will continue to lead you on and play with you, until you eventually give up and leave.
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Originally Posted by Systolic
She obviously doesn't want him in the way that he wants her at this point.

By doing this it forces her to innately realize his value and worth in her life.

Women have a tendency of taking good guys for granted. I have actually just realized this for myself not too long ago (thanks to the help of the pub)
Sometimes though, Systo, its just Answer #1. He makes her feel good.

If you stick around, maybe she will see your value.

If you leave, she will just replace you and the new guy will officially be in a better spot than you.

Thats just my take on it.
06-21-2012 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by J.D.
he says all he wants to do is bang her.

So he should spend months and months ignoring her and re-tooling himself into a whole new person?

**** that ****. Find someone who likes you for you.

She will probably be just as bat**** insane as this one...
Maybe I came across the wrong way.

It can be as simple as picking out a hat, or trying a new style of clothing. Anything that causes the girl to 'reassess' you in the way that girl assess guys.
06-21-2012 , 10:01 PM
I think we are forgetting that the girl is extremely likely to be the "normal" one in this theoretical relationship.
06-21-2012 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
You've obviously never been irrationally attached to a girl before.

You're probably not that type.

Its not so easy as to just drop it and move on. I know this for a fact for people like me.
I have stories of being attached to some real winners.....

Yes, you are correct. its difficult to move on. But it should happen. He should run.
06-21-2012 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Sometimes though, Systo, its just Answer #1. He makes her feel good.

If you stick around, maybe she will see your value.

If you leave, she will just replace you and the new guy will officially be in a better spot than you.

Thats just my take on it.
Yeah to Hell with that. I would rather just find a girl who appreciates how I make her feel and reciprocates.

Reciprocity is absolutely paramount in ANY form of relationship. Romantic, platonic, professional, whatever.
06-21-2012 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by J.D.
I have stories of being attached to some real winners.....

Yes, you are correct. its difficult to move on. But it should happen. He should run.
I think so, too. I just gave him a process that eased his way out, and who knows, maybe he gets slobbed on a little before he cuts her off entirely.
06-21-2012 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I think we are forgetting that the girl is extremely likely to be the "normal" one in this theoretical relationship.
Winner.
06-21-2012 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I think we are forgetting that the girl is extremely likely to be the "normal" one in this theoretical relationship.
This could go either way.

I think they are probably equally 'normal', as subjective as that might sound, but still maintaining your analogy.
06-21-2012 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
Yeah to Hell with that. I would rather just find a girl who appreciates how I make her feel and reciprocates.

Reciprocity is absolutely paramount in ANY form of relationship. Romantic, platonic, professional, whatever.
Well obviously.

And fwiw I think he should just go bang someone else and forget about this chic. Its not actually that hard to get decent pussy.
06-21-2012 , 10:05 PM
I dunno. She could just be busy too?

When I first met my ex, we met for a coffee and had a great time. I would flirt with him on the phone, always return his calls, ect. But each time he invited me on a date, I was legitimately busy. So he stopped calling. So I eventually called him and asked him why he stopped calling. He said that he had assumed I wasn't interested because I said no to his last few invites. But I actually was busy. So if you give up and she does like you, she will probably notice and ask what's up. If she doesn't like you, then you were already sol.
06-21-2012 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
I dunno. She could just be busy too?

When I first met my ex, we met for a coffee and had a great time. I would flirt with him on the phone, always return his calls, ect. But each time he invited me on a date, I was legitimately busy. So he stopped calling. So I eventually called him and asked him why he stopped calling. He said that he had assumed I wasn't interested because I said no to his last few invites. But I actually was busy. So if you give up and she does like you, she will probably notice and ask what's up. If she doesn't like you, then you were already sol.
Yeah this is pretty much dead on

If she seems to want the reins so bad, give them to her. Put the ball in her court. She will do what she wants.

Although I think 6 years of busy-ness in all likelihood equates to a genuine lack of interest.
06-21-2012 , 10:06 PM
For 6 years...??
06-21-2012 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
You've obviously never been irrationally attached to a girl before.
i actually have and cutting her out of my life was a hugely +EV decision.

believe it or not, i am inherently lame socially, i just learn from my mistakes like a boss which is why i have such l33t insight at this stage of my life.

so let's just put it this way: i am rationally, objectively, unequivocally 100% rite on this one. you can insist that i'm wrong, and pyramid can listen to you if he prefers, but it's the incorrect decision and he's only making his life worse if he chooses to heed your advice

solid read tho

      
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