It helps if you’re a *white* woman. If you’re a *black* woman you risk ending up like Sandra Bland, murdered for not using a turn signal.

isn't it like 40%?

the stat is that cops are 4x more likely to commit domestic violence than the general population

Data? Doesn't look true based on what I've googled, but maybe increasing for women generally recently.

It does help more being a white woman.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Thought the graph in this looks like something someone posted earlier.

A detailed accounting of the facts of the case:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...reonna-taylor/

Short version: there's no defending the police or the judge; the defenses offered leave out important parts.

"Based on what we do know — which I’ve culled from my own reporting, reporting from the New York Times and the Louisville Courier-Journal, as well as from conversations with the lawyers for Taylor’s family — the decision to charge Detective Brett Hankison with wanton endangerment was probably correct, as was the decision not to charge the other officers involved in the shooting. "

Seems really short or behind a paywall. Or maybe I found the wrong article.

Yup, this is the crux of the issue. The cops killing people is the status quo, and violence in response is seen as an affront to our country.

No one ever asks what the cops hope to do or accomplish when they are violent. The self-defense thing quickly falls apart too, because you can easily make a case that citizens can feel threatened for their lives before attacking a cop/running/etc. We had this conversation with Rayshard Brooks - the police said they had to shoot because a taser was a lethal weapon. Well, they had tasers! Black people get killed by cops. Cops have lethal weapons. Why can't he be protecting his life by trying to fight back? Why is it always "well, they shouldn't have resisted"?

The answer is much of the country is very comfortable having black people killed by cops. They pretend to be sorry, but aren't really. You can't actually feel sorry and repeatedly defend the police.

Cop makes some bs story about feeling threatened so kills someone "Well, they should have complied".
Citizen feels threatened by cops and attacks a cop "Thugs attacking our police, they should obviously die!"

So much of the country is comfortably racist. A lot of the rest of the country is uncomfortably racist (which is progress, and where many of us probably are).

So, cops killing being okay = status quo means it won't change without serious threats to the status quo. The only way to threaten the status quo is violence, looting, and retaking property. Business and rich white men loot the middle class and poor every single day, and no one gives a damn. All the sudden when it's Black men, or in opposition of police, is looting seen as bad.

It sucks cities need to burn, but again, it is a natural progression to the oppression of our country. I'd be SHOCKED if more of the country doesn't have to burn before anything changes.

I also don't understand how anyone can still argue most cops are good people. We have thousands of examples in the past few months of cops intentionally being violent in unnecessary ways. Last night in Seattle video shows a cop intentionally running his bike over a mans head, and he was in no danger.

So we agree he's a bad cop, right? Every single cop who isn't turning him in is also a bad person. Many were around him. They are supporting him. Look at what happened in upstate NY when the entire force stood up for their buddy.

If my wife ran over an injured persons head intentionally, I would report her. If she killed someone, I would not defend her.

There is no such thing as a good cop as long as they defend each other. I don't even see how that is debatable.

It's 3000 words and the link just worked for me.

Must not work on my phone for some reason.

Great piece and should be required reading for anyone for anyone even thinking of defending the cops, the judge or the system in general in this case.

A few bad apples spoils the bunch

mets, I believe you care about people dying. I believe that the violence in the streets and its aftermath genuinely distresses you.

But when you say, "this won't bring about the results you're hoping for" it is tone-deaf...because NOTHING ELSE HAS. Not trials, not peaceful protests, not NLF players kneeling, not prosecutors bringing indictments. NOTHING HAS STOPPED IT.

I don't want to upset you, but you are starting to sound like someone in 1930s Germany arguing that the best thing to do is comply with Hitler because "violence won't stop it." The agents of the state are literally executing people without trials, without evidence, without due process. People that we arm and train and entrust with our protection. It can NOT continue. It just can't.

Yeah when did this phrase get changed?

Now it’s used in the opposite meaning. More like don’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch. No. The whole point is that a few ruins ALL..

I don’t get it.

the phrase never changed

people who refer to corrupt and murderous police as bad apples in order to defend the other police are too stupid to realize they're telling the truth

Charles Barkley and Shaq being called uncle tom's all over twitter for saying defunding the police are a bad idea

cause again, if you dont agree with others, you deserve to be called racist names

Millionaires showing out for the police is kinda the point, Mets.

looks like we have a SCOTUS nom

mets, I have never bought into the "arguing in bad faith" argument about you, but I'm going to keep quoting this post at you until you respond with something other than what we should NOT be doing about it.

What, iyo, SHOULD we be doing about it?

There was never any doubt they’d go through with a SCOTUS nominee. She’s a terrible person, perfect fit for us.

ACB, I win that part of the game

Seems like a foregone conclusion I win the second part

I am currently very much taking my victories as I find them

I’m currently going with a combination of “it could be worse” and “we’re totally ****ed”

she hasn't been confirmed yet

While we're propounding idioms - violent and arsonist protesting of police misconduct is cutting one's nose to spite one's face.

The whole "nothing else has worked so we have to do this" argument is super bad. It is infected by the "perfect is the enemy of the good" phenomenon, where we do have police fired, sued, etc in situations where they would not necessarily be. It suggests that violence would/might be effective when it demonstrably has not been. It also wrongly supposes that everything else has in fact been tried.

i think the real question that remains is how gutless will the democrats be