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01-07-2024 , 12:52 PM
I don't know what to tell you if going to a museum is weird as **** to you. Maybe go outside more?
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01-07-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
I don't know what to tell you if going to a museum is weird as **** to you. Maybe go outside more?
You know damn well what I meant

Going to a museum is not weird at all. Going to a museum on January 6th specifically because of January 6th is weird af.
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01-07-2024 , 01:10 PM
"i'm not trying to kink shame you, but you're weird af" lol come on!!!!

any reason to spend time enjoying and appreciating what our world has to offer is great!
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01-07-2024 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
"i'm not trying to kink shame you, but you're weird af" lol come on!!!!

any reason to spend time enjoying and appreciating what our world has to offer is great!
Whenever someone says they aren't trying to kink shame, it means they are actually trying to kink shame.

Think of it as "I'm not normally a person who kink shames but this kink deserves some shame".
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01-07-2024 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Whenever someone says they aren't trying to kink shame, it means they are actually trying to kink shame.

Think of it as "I'm not normally a person who kink shames but this kink deserves some shame".
it doesn't though! like seriously, any reason to go to a museum and love and appreciate the art and feel good, is a good thing

and also jan 6th was a terrible and traumatic day in that sense that a riot of racists stormed the capitol cuz they wanted our country to be even more racist!!!

that is some ****ed up ****! like even though dems stealing the nomination from bernie and the people two elections in a row is far worse... and actually gave trump the presidency... like the dems actually really did what the rioters were pitifully trying to accomplish and totally failed.. the dems actually did it!!! lol BUT it's still ****ed up to see racists rampaging around and rioting for racism
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01-07-2024 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
You know damn well what I meant

Going to a museum is not weird at all. Going to a museum on January 6th specifically because of January 6th is weird af.
Again, maybe get outside more? It's a fun little tradition my partner and I do because we were at a museum when Jan 6 events took place and we didn't find out until the next day. And that I decide to spend that day doing something positive and new every year is weird to you? Taking a negative event and trying to make it positive? If that's a kink to you, I guess I'm just glad I'm not as sad as you are.
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01-07-2024 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
it doesn't though! like seriously, any reason to go to a museum and love and appreciate the art and feel good, is a good thing

and also jan 6th was a terrible and traumatic day in that sense that a riot of racists stormed the capitol cuz they wanted our country to be even more racist!!!

that is some ****ed up ****! like even though dems stealing the nomination from bernie and the people two elections in a row is far worse... and actually gave trump the presidency... like the dems actually really did what the rioters were pitifully trying to accomplish and totally failed.. the dems actually did it!!! lol BUT it's still ****ed up to see racists rampaging around and rioting for racism
Yeah, I don't get this. I assume it's just luckbox taking lazy shots again. But really telling on himself that doing something positive like that is a weird kink in his eyes. It just sounds so lonely.
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01-07-2024 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
Yeah, I don't get this. I assume it's just luckbox taking lazy shots again. But really telling on himself that doing something positive like that is a weird kink in his eyes. It just sounds so lonely.
Once again, I have never said that going to museums is weird-- I've been to lots of them. Going because it's your January 6th tradition is just weird though.

Going to a baseball game every year on 9/11 because it's 9/11 would also be weird. Sorry I don't make the rules there.
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01-07-2024 , 11:00 PM
I, for one, think the focus being placed on the throwaway museum comment (totally innocuous, btw) is way weirder than actually going to a museum. Shrug?
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01-07-2024 , 11:01 PM
Like, it’s super weird that’s what y’all latched on to, but okay. I love you guys for being weird, I’m weird, it’s fine.
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01-09-2024 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
and also jan 6th was a terrible and traumatic day in that sense that a riot of racists stormed the capitol cuz they wanted our country to be even more racist!!!
They don’t want the country to be “more racist”; they want the country to be a Christian theocracy. This is an important point to understand because it’s their religion that is the umbrella everything else falls under.

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01-09-2024 , 03:11 PM
did he just say "blessed are the cheesemakers"?
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01-09-2024 , 03:18 PM
Religion is the opiate of the masses
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01-09-2024 , 03:22 PM


New Trump “ad”, or at least he shared it lol. “God made Trump.” It really isn’t about anything else besides their religion.
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01-09-2024 , 03:35 PM
And it’s not accidental that the religious right is especially susceptible to conspiracy theories when the church has been priming their psyches to be open to magical thinking, often since childhood before their prefrontal lobes were fully formed. Virgin births, walking on water, resurrections etc. I mean, Hillary eating babies under a pizza parlor is… not a huge stretch.
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01-09-2024 , 08:14 PM
And luckbox
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01-09-2024 , 08:19 PM
And I guess vmf. Maybe he's religious right though
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01-09-2024 , 08:36 PM
I'd guess like 30% of Qanoners are not religious and a lot of the famous ones are faking it. Oddly I know two people who weren't really religious but always a bit conspiracy driven and they became Qanoners and then like pastors or something. (Only heard this second hand)

Then again last time driving through North Carolina the radio was talking about Bidens weather controlling machine.
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01-09-2024 , 11:12 PM
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Religion is the opiate of the masses
I am drawing a blank on the author at the moment, but someone wrote a book not that long ago that posited that political tribalism -- the example was primarily leftism, but it would apply to the alt right as well -- was religion for people that don't believe in g-d.

Business is booming in opiates.
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01-10-2024 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
I am drawing a blank on the author at the moment, but someone wrote a book not that long ago that posited that political tribalism -- the example was primarily leftism, but it would apply to the alt right as well -- was religion for people that don't believe in g-d.

Business is booming in opiates.
I kinda see it tbh. But I think that applies mostly to people who still see politics as binary instead of what it actually is- a distraction that keeps us from eating the rich.
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01-10-2024 , 12:06 PM
I guess I would need to see the source material for that, but to me it seems like the context of those two ideas is very different
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01-10-2024 , 12:09 PM
When Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses he was merely saying that the idea of an afterlife and the other comforts religion provides is an escape for the working class from cruelty of the way our society organized under capitalism.

In that sense I do not see how “leftist politics” could be a “religion”. In that sense it’s the very opposite of it because instead of escaping the cruelty it acknowledges it head on
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01-10-2024 , 12:14 PM
“ The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.”

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“ If people are to know and understand the real world, they must give up superstitious beliefs because they have a narcotic effect on the mind”


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These seem to be making the opposite point as the one you presented, Booker. But maybe that is why you presented it
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01-10-2024 , 12:37 PM
I'm sure there is some leftist "we are not the same" meme that could encapsulate the idea


I'm a fan of the antiwork movement to a degree but also think some people who post in subreddits about it are some combo or lazy, delusional to the reality of their situation, using it to blame others, escapism etc etc.

Booker could be using left to mean Dem as well.
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01-10-2024 , 12:39 PM
Some post ages ago about an onlyfans girl arguing sex work is real work then talking about how she'd invest her money in owning property. She got reemed for it but I'm sure there are lots like that as well.

If it's the only movement that "accepts" me then it could be quite comforting, but am I a True Believer?!?!
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