like were these sincere posts?

seemed pretty obvious you were being ironic and are trying to poke fun at anti-rent-seeking sentiment

I would have guessed the "opposite" for the first one for sure, not sure about the others.

NPR is a bullshit network, propaganda for the empire from the "left"

They got everyone to say "Latin ex" at least.

latin is a european language, right? people indigenous to this hemisphere shouldn't be named after a european language.

gotta let the liberals feel good about themselves somehow.

Okay, but like, they still would have had to have a down payment right? And for a decade they collected 3X the amount of the rent they were paying and were still forced to move?

I mean, most people who can't afford to buy--rent. They don't buy a 4-plex.

If one of my former roommates stole my fridge, wouldn't this kind of be a similar situation?

sorry what do you mean?

The story wasn't people stealing fridges from Target or Best Buy or some evil corporation, it was basically people stealing from people. It's hard to tell in the article just how well off or not well off the owners/landlords of the building are.

What doesn't seem hard to tell, unless the article is straight up lying to us, is these aren't like rich rich people. You can be all for thinking landlords suck and that stealing from corporations shouldn't be a crime and also acknowledge that two tenants taking a fridge from their apt also sucks.

My point was - if J, or A, had, upon leaving my home, literally taken a fridge, is that justified? Because I'm technically their landlord, don't need their money to pay rent, and have plenty of money to replace my fridge with no impact to my well-being?

i wouldn't really say it's justified. but i do think it's less justifiable for you to be taking their money just because you have enough resources to have rental property(or a room to rent), and they are poor, so they have to give their money to landlords or live on the street.

and obv not blaming you personally for the fact that housing is a commodity lol

just that housing as a commodity is an incredibly unjustifiable situation, much more so than tenants stealing fridges

I see your point - I feel like this (not me, the example from OP) falls into the "people living under capitalism doing their best to get by", far more than the fat cats who are literally driving it themselves and are basically FIREing off rental income.

But you make a fair argument. Yes, I agree that housing as a commodity is a bigger problem than tenants stealing fridges. But let's not pretend that tenants stealing fridges from slightly less poor laborers in our society isn't also an issue

*when I say issue here, i don't mean a systemic issue. i mean that it's not good in a vacuum

Maybe in good faith it's just drumming up sympathy for these landlords or those in "similar" situation but seems reasonable it's just a piece to use immigrant/poor narrative to drum up sympathy for landlords in general.

Maybe the rent they are charging is just interest owed and some nominal fee for wear and tear or even slight profit, but I'm skeptical it's not like the full mortgage plus 30% or something like that.

And the fridge was almost certainly not that expensive. Ruined carpet would likely be wary more and vaguely common.

Looks like it was 2k rent a month for that apt. Damn!

Quasi combining the last few topics, what's the deal with appliance and xbox shortage? All just a microchip related thing?

yeah, that's fair. i get your point.

i am very biased. most of my friends are rich landlords, and they are not bad people. but it's just not fair, and i've been screwed over so bad from being on the wrong side of the housing market, being unable to ever buy shelter, and being forced to rent.

There are many places in the US you could have bought a home and large yard. Probably still are.

the only place i can think of where i could earn a living and buy a home is vegas. and im not sure. idk how much homes cost there.

but i'd probably kill myself if i had to live in vegas, so that wouldn't work.

it's rare to have an economy that can support a poker player, and have housing cheap enough that a bad player like me could afford lol

makes sense

Ultimately I believe that private property is theft. Now understand what I mean when I say private property--private property is property that is owned specifically for the purposes of making a profit. Personal property would be like the car you drive to work, the house you live in, your toothbrush, etc. Stuff you own and use for your own well being.

Private property is like...a factory you own and use to make money. Intellectual property you use to make money. Or, in this case, a rental property that you own and rent out to people to make money.

All that being said when you OWN a condo or house that you live in and then rent out part of it the lines become a little blurred whether that is private or personal property. I think that when a friend comes asking you for a place to stay and you offer to let them live at your place for a cheap rent that is a pretty far cry from private property. I think private property is when you go out looking for someone to come live there so you can collect rent from them.

Does that make sense?

It doesn't really matter to me how wealthy the landlords were in that article. They bought a place so they could get people to live there and collect rent from them. That is private property. The rent they were collecting (minus all the costs of owning a place) is effectively taking money from someone purely because they don't have enough. I see it as theft. So the fact that the tenants stole a fridge for them serves them right.

Like to be clear, they didn't steal the fridge that the landlords used to store their own food. They took a fridge that was private (not personal) property. That was property that the landlords owned so that they could collect rent from people.

If J or A had stolen YOUR fridge, that is your personal property that you use to keep your food in. And I don't believe you were ever "rent-seeking" when you were living with them.

Just not a comparable situation.

aite cool that makes sense

i don't agree that taking a fridge is okay but clearly we don't agree

what gives those landlords more right to that fridge than the tenants who took it?