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yeah, i guess that's mostly why i wouldn't say it again

i also i have friends who were in the military, and i like them. i would feel bad about offending them, even though i think they should be enlightened about how evil usa military is

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08-28-2021 , 11:28 PM

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i also i have friends who were in the military, and i like them.

If they had died in Afghanistan, would you have said "good"?

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08-28-2021 , 11:51 PM

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I thought it was established people shouldn't make statements like celebrating the death of people that might trigger someone? Like if people had family that died in 9/11 or columbine? And that they shouldn't have to bring up why?

My party in the cia comment was some claim cia behind the bombing for some reason. Though I just made it up and know very little about it.

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08-29-2021 , 12:03 AM

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If they had died in Afghanistan, would you have said "good"?

good point

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08-29-2021 , 12:51 AM

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its ****ed how in our culture, this is ok, but rooting against the armies of the empire is forbidden

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08-29-2021 , 01:19 AM

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its ****ed how in our culture, this is ok, but rooting against the armies of the empire is forbidden

Rooting against armies of the empire isn't quite the same as celebrating the deaths of individuals though.

I mean I think you should have the right to do it of course.

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08-29-2021 , 01:29 AM

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Limbaugh has terminal cancer if anyone here needs something to celebrate

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Pretty gross statement. My biggest objection to political discourse today are these blatant expressions of hatred of people, going so far as too celebrate death. The quickest way to make people hate you is to show them you hate them. Statements like this are just flat out damaging, they add nothing to discourse, they just make "right-wingers" more likely to hate you out of perception you hate them and want them to die.

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I'm not saying this applies to Rush, because when I heard the news I felt literally nothing (good or bad), but there are absolutely humans that are worthy of celebrating death.

I don't think that's debatable.

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It's definitely debatable.
Quite possibly some valid reasons for not celebrating anyone's death regardless of how they lived their life.

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Not really the same thing at all. Punching nazis is violence to other people. Celebrating the deaths of other people is violence to your self.

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It already is basically a culture of death, violence and destruction and plenty of people revel in it.

Actually we had the discussion before Limbaugh died.*
*which I'm realizing seems like a non-sequitor here, but I had intended to bring up how we discussed Limbaugh then just forgot that I did not.

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08-29-2021 , 04:06 AM

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i think it's similar.

and i was also actually totally thinking of our punching nazis discussion and how that is similar too

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08-29-2021 , 09:01 AM

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I could see there being a link between shadenfreude but also believing Shadenfreude is wrong. Then people would have to come up for reasons they deserved it.

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08-29-2021 , 11:02 AM

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if you don’t want people to celebrate your death, don’t be an ******* while you are alive

seems pretty simple

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08-29-2021 , 11:05 AM

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I agree with your sentiment, Birdman, but I'm on Dustin's side here.

Don't celebrate anyone's death. It makes us worse people. The solution to people being monstrous is not to become monstrous.

That said I DID celebrate when Rush lost his voice for over a year. That seemed karmic for a radio host.

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08-29-2021 , 12:27 PM

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we should be celebrating that Limbaugh is now 6 months sober

i know we all doubted whether he could do it

good for him

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08-29-2021 , 12:35 PM

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speaking of right wing radio hosts dying, it occurred to me that a seemingly disturbing amount were dying of covid after coming out as openly anti-vax

my immediate appraisal is of course some kind of op is going on but it’s funny to me that all the people in the cult of big pharma make the same observation but just can’t seem to come to the obvious conclusion

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08-29-2021 , 12:42 PM

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over in the covid threat they're talking about all the right wing radio hosts dying(mostly laughing and celebrating), but no one is saying it's an op

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08-29-2021 , 12:45 PM

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over in the covid threat they're talking about all the right wing radio hosts dying(mostly laughing and celebrating), but no one is saying it's an op

exactly

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08-29-2021 , 12:45 PM

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like I’m surprised even people in the cult aren’t like “come on this is a little too on the nose”

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08-29-2021 , 12:48 PM

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like what less than 0.2% of the US population has died from covid but somehow if you are an outspoken anti-vaxer on the radio the fatality rate goes up 100 fold

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08-29-2021 , 12:50 PM

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It's ideas like this why I still read this thread.

What are the odds the afghan bombing was some sort of cia op? Or something similarly not face value?

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08-29-2021 , 12:52 PM

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It's ideas like this why I still read this thread.

What are the odds the afghan bombing was some sort of cia op? Or something similarly not face value?

I mean given the CIAs involvement in 9-11, the iraq invasion, and countless other events surround our excursions in the middle east the past 100 years it would be ridiculous to not at least consider they are involved

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08-29-2021 , 12:53 PM

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saying something is an op doesn’t necessarily mean it’s CIA

could easily just be something as banal as the media specifically hyping up deaths of specific people to push an agenda

that’s an op

or it could be something more convoluted

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08-29-2021 , 12:54 PM

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Adding to the strangness of the deaths is the fact they are all happening now but not in the last year? Or were they happening then to?

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08-29-2021 , 12:55 PM

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Yeah alright. I mean that has been happening anecdotally in stuff I've read. Also kids dying/getting sick seems to be at the top of the news more often but last I saw they aren't dying at any higher rate.

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08-29-2021 , 12:57 PM

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like what less than 0.2% of the US population has died from covid but somehow if you are an outspoken anti-vaxer on the radio the fatality rate goes up 100 fold

lol yeah, it's 1/5 of 1% for usa population.

but if you are a right wing radio host anti vaxxer no one has ever heard of, then it's about 90%

unless there are thousands of right wing radio hosts

but i think 11 of them have died of covid iirc

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08-29-2021 , 01:00 PM

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feels like i get 20 different pieces of news and social media telling me about another different outspoken anti-vaxer that has died from covid every day for the last month