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04-12-2021 , 08:46 AM
at the risk of incurring great shame, so far I am not unsatisfied with Biden

granted I'm not really paying close attention, but based on the two topics that I have looked into itt (the influx centers and the military budget) - neither of which have been addressed or even acknowledged by our resident, perennial cynics - I'm even kinda okay with him so far
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04-12-2021 , 08:54 AM
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I mean IANAW was itt talking about how the "cages" that kids were being locked in during the Trump administration are now "intake facilities".
I asked multiple times for any article, evidence, or anything other than a 10 year old photo that what you said is still happening. Crickets. Then I found and posted an article from Al Jazeera that showed the kids are in fact not being locked in cages, that they are in a crowded space that otherwise approximates standard daycare facilities.

The Trump admin had a formal policy of separating children from their parents as a deterrent to migration.


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But like when Biden proposes a 753 billion dollar defense budget while claiming we won't support medicare for all because its too expensive, if your contribution is to explain to use that when you adjust for inflation and account for the position of the planets, its actually the same then it is pretty clear you are trying to make Biden look better than the absolute piece of trash he is.
it's not only inflation, again I posted - the increase in defense budget (1.6% before factoring inflation) is very small compared to increases in other social services

23.1% to health & human services
15.1% to HUD, largely for housing vouchers



if you have something on the position of the planets, though, I will definitely take a look

astrology is good fun, too

Last edited by iamnotawerewolf; 04-12-2021 at 09:01 AM.
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04-12-2021 , 08:59 AM
I mean, come on dude

Biden's budget cuts the slush fund for "overseas contingency funding", you acknowledge that's a good thing, right?


while you're asking for parallel analysis from me and/or EB, I mean
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04-12-2021 , 10:22 AM
at least now people can see the kind of **** I have to deal with
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04-12-2021 , 10:26 AM
How often do people think others are being intentionally obtuse and or concern trolling etc etc?

I assume it's like 1 in 10 times of the times it appears to us.

Then again I did see a post once that sorta gave me a eureka moment where someone said "I don't even understand how that can be the case" and was sure that this person (and other persons) maintain a certain ignorance just so they can maintain their belief system.
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04-12-2021 , 11:13 AM
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at least now people can see the kind of **** I avoid dealing with
fyp
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04-12-2021 , 01:44 PM
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fyp
Tbf-- I was sort of hoping that you were joking with the defense budget stuff.
Like-- we should be thankful that there is a defense budget that only just barely doesn't keep up with inflation but in terms of actual dollar figures is more than last years?
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04-12-2021 , 01:51 PM
I've heard stories ppp loans people get the money then pay employees what they would have anyway but pocket the money more or less. Basically like lotteries that "fund schools". I'm sure some legit use it.
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04-12-2021 , 02:01 PM
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Tbf-- I was sort of hoping that you were joking with the defense budget stuff.
Like-- we should be thankful that there is a defense budget that only just barely doesn't keep up with inflation but in terms of actual dollar figures is more than last years?
The point is that the figure used to show that Biden is some gun nut military hawk does not show that.
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04-12-2021 , 02:03 PM
Also specifically when compared with his predecessor
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04-12-2021 , 03:38 PM
****ing joe is such a ****ing pos

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04-12-2021 , 03:40 PM
I should correct myself....the 722 billion number that they were claiming 715 is well shy of was Trump's projected budget for 2022. It's a pure nonsense stat.
U.S. President Joe Biden’s fiscal 2022 budget request asks for $753 billion in national security funding, an increase of 1.6 percent that includes $715 billion for the Defense Department.

The request, rolled out Friday, amounts to a slight decrease for the Pentagon when adjusted for inflation, and it’s well shy of the Trump administration’s projected $722 billion request for FY22. The proposal would also end the off-budget funding pool known the overseas contingency operations, or OCO, account.
And I doubt that ending any budget pools is going to mean anything in regards to overseas operations or is anything to brag about.
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04-12-2021 , 09:24 PM
LOL Team 3.

17 still too low for LAPD randos, filthy.
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04-12-2021 , 09:51 PM
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LOL Team 3.

17 still too low for LAPD randos, filthy.
i mean for me personally i think lapd are more villainous than jeff dahmer. but i know most people don't think that. i didnt think they'd guess 10 though!!!! lmao!!!
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04-13-2021 , 02:09 AM
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****ing joe is such a ****ing pos

he is just so ****ing awful
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04-13-2021 , 09:14 AM
yeah, I don't know what there is to investigate

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According to the Star Tribune, Potter, 48, became a police officer in 1995 and has served on the department's negotiation team.

Potter was also one of the first officers on the scene of a fatal police shooting in 2019, when officers shot an autistic man, Kobe Dimock-Heisler, who had allegedly grabbed a knife, the Star Tribune reported.

The newspaper, citing an investigative report from the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, reported Potter told two officers involved in the shooting to "exit the residence, get into separate squad cars, turn off their body worn cameras, and to not talk to each other."
this woman should already have been fired and jailed
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04-13-2021 , 09:16 AM
wow, she's

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president of the Brooklyn Center Police Department's police union
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04-13-2021 , 09:50 AM
Telling them to get in separate squad cards and say nothing sounds reasonable. Why's that bad, or just optics?

Sounds like they've basically admitted fault to some degree. Not going to watch the video but most seem to think she did think she was using a taser, though that also sounds a bit lol.
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04-13-2021 , 10:42 AM
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04-13-2021 , 10:55 AM
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Telling them to get in separate squad cards and say nothing sounds reasonable. Why's that bad, or just optics?
telling the cops to turn off their duty body cameras during a homicide investigation is obstruction of justice, an arrestable crime generally punishable by up to a year in prison

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Sounds like they've basically admitted fault to some degree. Not going to watch the video but most seem to think she did think she was using a taser, though that also sounds a bit lol.
26 year veteran "mistakes" taser for handgun

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The Brooklyn Police Department policy manual states that “all Taser devices shall be clearly and distinctly marked to differentiate them from the duty weapon and any other device.” The manual also says that “officers should not hold both a firearm and the Taser device at the same time.”

It appears that several aspects of how Officer Potter handled her weapons may have violated the protocol laid out in the manual, even if she had drawn her Taser and not her firearm.
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04-13-2021 , 11:11 AM
I read it as the two people involved in the homicide were told to turn them off? So I imagine not part of the investigation at that point, effectively off duty. Are they supposed to keep them on forever?

Yeah seems like the analysis of the video she clearly thought it was a taser unless she's wolfing hard, it's obviously ridiculous but ridiculous things happen.
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04-13-2021 , 11:13 AM
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Lol, googling it makes it seem even worse than this tweet. And like these cases always seem to be i assume "everyone knew".
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04-13-2021 , 11:23 AM
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I read it as the two people involved in the homicide were told to turn them off? So I imagine not part of the investigation at that point, effectively off duty. Are they supposed to keep them on forever?
usually you don't go "off duty" at the scene of a crime

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Yeah seems like the analysis of the video she clearly thought it was a taser unless she's wolfing hard, it's obviously ridiculous but ridiculous things happen.
yeah she probably didn't murder the guy

Manslaughter for sure, though

if she was a mere Citizen, anyway
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04-13-2021 , 11:28 AM
I dunno police protocol but if I were a lawyer I'd tell them to do more or less that. Obviously she'll be very biased where as of it was some randoms they'd get taken in or asked questions or something.

I don't think they should be kept "on duty" in a shooting they were involved in.
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04-13-2021 , 11:36 AM
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I dunno police protocol but if I were a lawyer I'd tell them to do more or less that. Obviously she'll be very biased where as of it was some randoms they'd get taken in or asked questions or something.

I don't think they should be kept "on duty" in a shooting they were involved in.
two related points underlying your post, here

the role of a police officer and the function of their duty


yeah, as an ordinary citizen, they get a lawyer, etc, "don't talk to the cops"

but as a police officer, engaged in on-duty conduct, the standard protections should not apply

cops have heightened powers, and their trade-off should be diminished rights associated with those powers


being "on duty" does not mean "investigating the crime" in this situation. they are expected not to go home, for eg, because they are still on duty. they are expected to answer their radios when called.
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