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01-07-2021 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Do you have a source for this?
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-...l-vote-2020-12
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01-07-2021 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
What she said seems fine.
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01-07-2021 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
What she said seems fine.
I’m sure it does to you
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01-07-2021 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
I’m sure it does to you
Walk me through the steps of what she should have done.
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01-07-2021 , 05:27 PM
i can't read the article cuz i don't wanna disable my unamable ap.

but aoc should say "we are dying. we are broke. it's a pandemic. we can't afford health care. democrats are supposed to be the party of the working people, not the party of the health insurance industry. we need healthcare, just like all the other countries have." which she does basically say all the time, but actually hold their feet to the fire, force the issue. put up or shut up. force pelosi and all the dems to openly fight her and her squad and everyone who wants healthcare, fight tooth and nail
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01-07-2021 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
but actually hold their feet to the fire, force the issue. put up or shut up. force pelosi and all the dems to openly fight her and her squad and everyone who wants healthcare, fight tooth and nail
How does she do this?
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01-07-2021 , 05:36 PM
lol the same ****ing way that all the people opposed to medicare for all do, eyebooger

stop being intentionally obtuse

the reason we don’t have universal healthcare is because a bunch of politicians fight hard to make sure we don’t. the least AOC could do is fight back
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01-07-2021 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
How does she do this?
maybe say pelosi is unfit to hold office because pelosi opposes medicare for all. and refuse to vote for pelosi or anyone who opposes medicare for all. and round up all her allies to do the same, and rally the public.

i mean right now is the time to do it. if not now, when?

dems control senate, house, executive, and it's a pandemic.
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01-07-2021 , 05:42 PM
how hard is it to pass legislation that basically everyone wants? lol! and is popular all around the world lol

it's really absurd.
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01-07-2021 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
maybe say pelosi is unfit to hold office because pelosi opposes medicare for all. and refuse to vote for pelosi or anyone who opposes medicare for all. and round up all her allies to do the same, and rally the public.
What's the most likely outcome of this strategy?
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01-07-2021 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
What's the most likely outcome of this strategy?
idk, i guess a republican becomes speaker of the house? or at least that is what they tell us will happen? i'm not even sure really.

but if that did happen, then you could say "pelosi and the dems would rather have a republican speaker of the house than give you healthcare. and here are all the dems who refused to give you healthcare and give the speakership to the republicans: x, y, and z dems"

but maybe not? maybe support would be so overwhelming that we'd get healthcare. i mean you have to at least try, right? and if you're not trying right now, then when tf are you gonna try?
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01-07-2021 , 05:53 PM
it reminds of the husband who is always telling his mistress he will leave his wife, but now is not the right time. later.

same thing happened with gay marriage btw. obama and clinton said "now is not the time" and gavin newsome said "**** that, the time is now! gay marriage right the **** now"
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01-07-2021 , 06:02 PM
eyebooger: what can she do other than openly support the person who consistently mocks a change to the policy that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year and puts many others in insurmountable debt???

****ing literally anything other than that, EB
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01-07-2021 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
What's the most likely outcome of this strategy?
why don’t you tell me the likely outcome of her current strategy first?
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01-07-2021 , 06:20 PM
i tweeted that we should all be trying to impeach biden right now. and mark k was the only person in the world who liked my tweet.

thanks comrade mark!!!!
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01-07-2021 , 06:25 PM
what is your twitter handle, filthy?
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01-07-2021 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i tweeted that we should all be trying to impeach biden right now. and mark k was the only person in the world who liked my tweet.

thanks comrade mark!!!!


When the world burns, what's another few matches?
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01-07-2021 , 06:36 PM
Mark, you will be happy to know that Musk passed Bezos to become the richest man in the world
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01-07-2021 , 06:38 PM
it's insane how overvalued the tesla stock is. you can't short it though, because people keep just pumping money into it
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01-07-2021 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
what is your twitter handle, filthy?
https://twitter.com/santiagoinsf
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01-07-2021 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Mark, you will be happy to know that Musk passed Bezos to become the richest man in the world
Of all the technology Czars, at least Musk is using his money to push technology and massively disrupt the current powers that be.

Tesla - Batteries and Driving AI
SpaceX - Reusable rockets and making space affordable
Neuralink - Man-machine interfaces
Boring Company - Tunneling technology to solve mass transit

In every one of these cases, the "experts" said what he was attempting wasn't technically feasible and economically impossible. Meanwhile, today you can buy an electric car for sub $40K that has a range of 250+ miles or watch the 7th takeoff and landing of the same Falcon 9 rocket booster. The next generation reusable rocket Starship is having another test launch as early as tomorrow.

LOL at all those Tesla stock market short sellers. They've been destroyed.
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01-07-2021 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
it's insane how overvalued the tesla stock is. you can't short it though, because people keep just pumping money into it
I dare you to short it.
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01-07-2021 , 07:18 PM
tesla market cap is 773.52 billion lol

price to earnings ratio 1560! lol!

general motors 62 billion pe ratio 19.4

ford 36 billion pe ratio na

toyota 211 billion pe ratio 9.3

honda 48 billion pe ratio 4.9


so take GM, ford, toyota, honda, combine them all, then double them, and their market cap is still less than tesla lol
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01-07-2021 , 07:32 PM
it would take like 2000 years for Tesla to make its market cap
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01-07-2021 , 07:32 PM
Yea it was baffling that AOC et al were not even willing to force a vote on Medicare for All. It was a straightforward plan that would have forced Pelosi to support the bill, look bad opposing the bill, or cede power to the republicans rather than even allowing a vote on a popular policy.

The progressive bloc had an unequivocal choice between helping the left wing of the party and potentially the people or falling in line with the Democratic establishment.

Unlike Bird I have a soft spot for people like AOC that are kind of the furthest left people trying to do anything, but now that she and the Dems actually have the power to do things, it seems like she isn't interested just as we already knew Biden and the rest of the establishment wouldn't be.
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