Definitions aren't really of interest to me.

My point is that you are happy with someone dying because (in your mind) it is better for the world.

So if someone believes that Trump is responsible for thousands of deaths and had he died from coronavirus, it would have make the world a better place, is it an immoral stance to root for that to happen?

No that very clearly wasn't your point.

I have no idea if Mets missed the point intentionally or unintentionally.

I've thought a lot about this. There's definitely a timeline where his death causes people to take this seriously, saving tons of lives and economic cost. In that reality, a Trump death is definitely the optimal outcome and a clear positive to the world.

Though, we have people in hospitals dying of COVID denying that they are dying of that because it's fake. Literally on their death bed saying it can't be COVID. So, seems likely his death doesn't move the needle in public health, which would mean his death doesn't provide any benefit.

That being said, to your greater point, obviously everyone believes some deaths are worth being happy about.

Filthy,

I agree those who say Obama was some hero are also insane. Though, more and more Obama rhetoric is surrounding how many drone strikes he did and he wasn't anything about peace.

So, I dunno, is it human nature to get caught up in this and then deal with reality later? In 10 years will the people who 100% believe trump won begin to tell a different story?

Dunno.

Chim, you are not losing it. Your post was fine.

it seems puzzling if you think of it as a cult formed by trump

the guy isn't even charismatic or a good speaker

but he didn't make this cult

there was already a disturbingly large demographic in this country of white evangelicals who deny and oppose science, not just the body of knowledge but the method itself

these people were a cult looking for a leader

then throw in all the people who've been brainwashed and radicalized through facebook echo chambers and youtube algorithms

so we have this unholy union of the anti-evolution cult and the anti-sjw cult, united by bigotry, hatred and willful ignorance

trump didn't brainwash these people, they were brainwashed and ready to go, just looking for boots to lick and they attached to trump like freshly hatched ducklings

Hardly.... They voted Trump in, and despite seeing him in action for 4 years, he would have won again if not for COVID. It seems they are anything but powerless.

what an amazing demonstration of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance to claim that wishing death on someone is de facto evil and then say it's fine to celebrate someone's death

all we can really do is guess, but it seems to me that most trump voters are probably people like mets, or maybe even markk(not saying mark voted for trump, but just normal every day republicans).

im guessing the minority of trump voters are the people chim is describing who would gladly lay down their lives because they love trump so much.

should be met's undertitle

This Trump voters felt powerless for decades and yes now feel they have power

Incredible how Republicans feel powerless when in reality they are way overpowered relative to how they should be because of a combination of structural advantages, gerrymandering and the pathetic weakness of Democrats.

Mets coming in and ignoring the two conversations that he was a part of make it pretty clear it's pointless to interact anymore.

Good luck with everything in life, man.

Yes mets leaving for 5 hours means he's yellow

You too bro!

That wasn't chim's point.

His point was that when you did come back, you didn't mention anything about the responses to your posts from earlier.

Are you trolling or seriously this bad at reading comprehension?

he says there is no use talking to me and he is done with me and puitting me on ignore

thats his choice

but im sorry if i misunderstood something you said chim

if your entire point was just that nobody ever said they would die for a president before -- okay i guess

mets something to think about. many people in this thread say you consistently misunderstand them. that should indicate that your brain is working in a way that it is not quite in the right balance. it's too much influenced by its own bias, and not open enough to the perspective of other people

Hey, I understand mets perspective perfectly!

It has to be trolling at this point. I’ve never interacted with an adult who so consistently misrepresented points before. No one has such poor comprehension skills. It’s why I gave up on interactions. He can’t be being sincere.

Ok then

The use of the second person when you are actually talking to my makes you feel better, talking to the masses rather than to my directly

One day you'll self reflect

I should have listened to bobo ages ago

Enjoy the circle jerk everyone, 'ts been real

I should have left when smarter people did

they should have a graphic with the same set up, but for the population