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10-08-2020 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
hmmm... do people think my pet's rights spew is as ridiculous as luckbox's covid might be fake spew?
No, enough people with views like Dustin leads to the premature loss of human life.

Yours is actually a somewhat fun, if not ridiculous, thought experiment that harms no one.
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10-08-2020 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Master,
My understanding compared to yours is so great, it's like we don't even live in the same world.
Half of this is correct.
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10-08-2020 , 10:54 AM
Like a real conspiracy that has since been proven is that Assad and the Syrian government were framed for using sarin gas in Douma. One that is absurd is that the moon landings were faked. The CIA and other propaganda OPs work pretty hard to associate these two things together to make the real one seem absurd purely by its association with one that is not only fake, but is hilariously fake.

Dustin functions almost perfectly like an OP. He will talk about actual real conspiracies and make total sense, but then he, the same person, will talk about **** like "wearing masks is a conspiracy" or some **** and it makes the actual real stuff he talked about seem absurd purely because he talks about and believes in both.
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10-08-2020 , 10:59 AM
ooooh! dustin is a cia op! that is a great conspiracy theory! i love it!
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10-08-2020 , 11:01 AM
It's fun how Booker makes a post at me and out come a bunch of people who understand little to attack me on conspiraciy theories.
Want to talk about 9/11?
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10-08-2020 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
ooooh! dustin is a cia op! that is a great conspiracy theory! i love it!
I wasn't saying he was a CIA op, just that he functions like one would.

Undermine the credulity of real conspiracies by acting like every stupid thing under the sun is a conspiracy so they all seem silly to believe.
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10-08-2020 , 11:03 AM
There is an element of conspiracy to the mask stuff in the sense that it is being deliberately pushed by the ruling class.
It's a way to both sow division and also I think about getting people in line and/or more obscure psychological factors.
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10-08-2020 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It's fun how Booker makes a post at me and out come a bunch of people who understand little to attack me on conspiraciy theories.
Want to talk about 9/11?
Thank you for answering my question, I appreciate it.
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10-08-2020 , 11:05 AM
What are some conspiracies that I talk about that are true, and which ones aren't true. Question for Birdman, Master, Eyebooger and any other experts here on reality.
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10-08-2020 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It's fun how Booker makes a post at me and out come a bunch of people who understand little to attack me on conspiraciy theories.
Want to talk about 9/11?
I understand plenty. And I am saying that even though you are right about some of the conspiracies you believe in, since you have no actual rigorous framework behind your worldview, you believe that literally everything is a conspiracy. Half the time I ask you the motivation and you can't even explain what it is.

The end result is that people doubt everything, even the reasonable stuff, you say and/or believe.
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10-08-2020 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
There is an element of conspiracy to the mask stuff in the sense that it is being deliberately pushed by the ruling class.
It's a way to both sow division and also I think about getting people in line and/or more obscure psychological factors.
See its reasonable to say that the issue of wearing masks is being politicized into a wedge issue. Totally makes sense.

The idea that wearing masks to prevent the spread of the disease was invented for that purpose is bogus.

Same goes for global warming.

Global warming is real and is happening.

It is also used as a wedge issue and turned into a political joke. Those things can both be true.
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10-08-2020 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What are some conspiracies that I talk about that are true, and which ones aren't true. Question for Birdman, Master, Eyebooger and any other experts here on reality.
I've already talked about some.

What I find weird is why you think you are an "expert on reality" compared to me?
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10-08-2020 , 11:09 AM
Saying that global warming and masks are turned into wedge issues as part of American political theater is a reasonable take.

Saying that therefore masks and global warming are totally fake and invented purely for that end is stupid.
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10-08-2020 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
The end result is that people doubt everything, even the reasonable stuff, you say and/or believe.
Doesn't matter. People are going to believe what they want anyways. Whether I held back, whether I was less hyperbolic, more reasoned-- whether I laid it all out. It wouldn't matter.
I messaged a friend of mine who is living in Korea who I haven't talked to a while. And she wanted to know my thoughts on two things 1): one about the election and 2) about my thoughts on covid. Which I thought was interesting because I don't ever really recall talking politics much with her. But if people think I'm discredited here or whatever then ok.
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10-08-2020 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Doesn't matter. People are going to believe what they want anyways. Whether I held back, whether I was less hyperbolic, more reasoned-- whether I laid it all out. It wouldn't matter.
I messaged a friend of mine who living in Korea who I haven't talked to a while. And she wanted to know my thoughts on two one: one about the election and two about my thoughts on covid. Which I thought was interesting because I don't ever really recall talking politics much with her. But if people think I'm discredited here or whatever then ok.
I think you missed my point. You are just one person on an internet forum. What you say and think is totally unimportant. I am pointing out that you operate on this forum the same way a CIA op operates in real life. Not that you are one or whatever, just that your actions parallel those of the CIA propaganda machine which places real conspiracy adjacent to totally ridiculous ones to undermine the credibility of the real ones.

That effect happens with the stuff you say because somewhere along the way you substituted "doubting what most other people believe/doubting the common narrative" with "correctness/intelligence/critical thinking".
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10-08-2020 , 11:15 AM
For sure the phenomena you talk about happens as a way of discrediting conspiracy theories.
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10-08-2020 , 11:16 AM
Dustin, you would rather be wrong 100 times if it means one time you got to be right while thinking something no one else did. That is a dangerous way to approach stuff. And I think you must know it makes a mockery of logic and critical thinking.

The correctness of a conclusion is independent of whether 1 person thinks it or 7 billion.
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10-08-2020 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
For sure the phenomena you talk about happens as a way of discrediting conspiracy theories.
So you believe there are actual "fake" conspiracy theories out there used to discredit real ones.

What are some of the fake ones then?
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10-08-2020 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
I understand plenty. And I am saying that even though you are right about some of the conspiracies you believe in, since you have no actual rigorous framework behind your worldview, you believe that literally everything is a conspiracy. Half the time I ask you the motivation and you can't even explain what it is.

The end result is that people doubt everything, even the reasonable stuff, you say and/or believe.
the end result is no one cares what lb believes or claims to believe or takes anything he says seriously
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10-08-2020 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
So you believe there are actual "fake" conspiracy theories out there used to discredit real ones.



What are some of the fake ones then?
Some are prosaic, some not. Some have elements of truth, some don't. Some are literally created by the ruling class, then pushed to discredit conspiracy people like with alien/UFO stuff. There is a lot of variety. Even within some conspiracy events themselves, they use red-herrings as a means of discrediting people who believe in them.
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10-08-2020 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
the end result is no one cares what lb believes or claims to believe or takes anything he says seriously
Here comes another reality expert
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10-08-2020 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Some are prosaic, some not. Some have elements of truth, some don't. Some are literally created by the ruling class, then pushed to discredit conspiracy people like with alien/UFO stuff. There is a lot of variety. Even within some conspiracy events themselves, they use red-herrings as a means of discrediting people who believe in them.
did you want to answer the question?
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10-08-2020 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
did you want to answer the question?
"Alien/ufo stuff" -- it's right in the post.
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10-08-2020 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
"Alien/ufo stuff" -- it's right in the post.
do you think maybe some of the stuff you believe could be fake?
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10-08-2020 , 11:27 AM
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do you think maybe some of the stuff you believe could be fake?
What stuff? Probably not but if you said something specific I could tell you my confidence level.
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