I worded that ****ty. I brought up more as a byproduct of what would happen if the "Robin Hooding" of the taxes were eliminated. But I don't think many people would argue that greater income inequality is a good thing, regardless of whether one thinks it's government's role to do anything about it.



Do you have a link for that? I'd like to check it out.

almost exactly correct except that we must continue the libertarian educational effort so that others may share your epiphany

I don't think it matters. The free exchange of goods and services is the only cause of human prosperity. The extent to which Power girds this freedom is the measure of poverty and depression.

Free-market capitalism, based on private property and peaceful exchange, is the source of civilization and human progress.
-Thomas DiLorenzo

i would argue that human progress is based on cooperation and taking care of each other

your first example is of him robbing the poor and giving to the rich. and your second example is that you hate how he robs from the rich and gives to the poor?

or are you just saying that his philosophy doesn't match his actions?

the amount spent on the bailouts was actually trillions. the figure that was given was only like 9% of the actual amount, the rest was secret.

i learned this by watching jon stewart

one of my favorite things my govt did was take away my job and all my money, online poker and my ftp account

if you define cooperation as the free exchange of goods and taking care of each other as the free exchange of services then I completely agree with you

welcome aboard

and you expect them to be able to help people in need and otherwise optimally divert resources

when you support big government this is what happens

in addition to big government just being terrible, the extent to which you cannot control how terrible it is is in fact another reason it is terrible

lol they are often the same thing. but one seems more mercenary and the other seems more altruistic. i mean it's probably a combination of greed and cooperation that advances humans abilities to manipulate our surroundings.

greed is good

i am scared of big government. but i am even more scared of big corporation. i mean i guess it doesn't matter really. either one will screw you. kind of like the democrats and the republicans. pick your poison.

government is like the biggest corporation that exists lol

I am of course against corporations as well since they do not actually exist.

wiki:
A corporation is created under the laws of a state as a separate legal entity that has privileges and liabilities that are distinct from those of its members.

This is a pile of bull****.

Only humans act. Business entities do not in reality enjoy any privileges, they are merely legal fictions constructed to shield people from responsibility for their actions.

zurvan: was that mclean's article talking about Canada or the US (or all of the above...)?

I tried searching for it, I found some mclean's articles on the same topic but I don't think I found the one in question

I'd be curious to see it if it's online too

reading this stuff im pleasantly surprised a good number of you seem to be on the Libertarian wagon

oh and join the turbo

most people trying to solve the worlds problems can't even take care of themselves *cough*

I have some problems with the libertarian philosophy, but the status quo is making these problems seem less important.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/31/w...-with-incomes/

references what zurvan was talking about (only in the coda, apparently it's only in the paper version). It appears the data is Canadian, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was similar in the US. It's an interesting data point that I hadn't considered previously

that's what we have the Airing of Grievances

Romney called Gingrich "zany" today.

On a side-note, I have 2 cousins named Newt (father and son). Both are lawyers.

Denis Leary is on the Joy Behard Show right now discussing the GOP.

HL News? No idea what station that is.

I actually threw it out the other day, or I'd check it again

Anyway, I seem to recall that that particular data point was either specifically American or all of North America. I remember one parenthesized comment that said "In Canada, it would be mostly hockey players". If it was just Canadian data, I don't think they'd say that. The article as a whole was focused on Canada, for obvious reasons.

And now that I just read that article WN linked (not the one I was originally talking about, I think; what I saw was a part of a bigger story on the Occupy protests, but it's definitely the same data & author), I guess it was Canadian, since it came from StatsCan. With how tied together Canada/US economies are, I'd be surprised if there was any difference between the two countries beyond scale