Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
POG Politics Thread POG Politics Thread

02-15-2018 , 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I haven't forgotten that I'm to discuss sandy hook with Bloobird. I stopped versing myself in it shortly after we last discussed it, but I have a pdf ebook on my phone to read, along with birdman's settlers which is good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Can we not, though, Dustin?
Quote:
Originally Posted by soah
I'm not interested in debating the details of the theories. My only point, which you've not contested, is that an awful lot of people would need to be involved. And you're not even correct about who ran security at the WTC (it was the Port Authority), though I'm afraid to even bring this up because you'll probably want to argue about it.
you're confusing me with either soah or birdman, pretty sure I never replied to that post
02-15-2018 , 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
This didn't happen?
It was in the pog discussion thread where I was being attacked by CDL et al.
02-15-2018 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
you're confusing me with either soah or birdman, pretty sure I never replied to that post
My mistake.
02-15-2018 , 03:07 PM
I remain interested in seeing you engage with the evidence that doesn't agree with you.
02-15-2018 , 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
I remain interested in seeing you engage with the evidence that doesn't agree with you.
Snopes articles are always a mire.

Most of the time they pick strawman arguments that aren't even actually made then debunk those.

I didn't want to deal with it I won't lie. I barely even looked at it. I wanted to get an in depth understanding of all the issues and find what I felt to be the strongest arguments. (Before setting off to debunk strawmen)
02-15-2018 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I didn't want to deal with it I won't lie. I barely even looked at it. I wanted to get an in depth understanding of all the issues and find what I felt to be the strongest arguments.
The first two sentences here directly contradict the third. If you're not even reading the arguments how do you know they're not strong?
02-15-2018 , 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
The first two sentences here directly contradict the third. If you're not even reading the arguments how do you know they're not strong?
Because I have seen enough of the other sandy hook evidence to convince me that we are being lied to.

There is a preponderance of evidence there. Enough that people have made numerous hours long videos on the subject.

*also because I have dealt with snopes before.
02-15-2018 , 03:27 PM
Nestle (the candy company) allegedly may be using West African child slave labor to source its cocoa beans.

Please commerce accordingly.
02-15-2018 , 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kokiri
Well, let’s suppose you _can_. That doesn’t make it a productive, pleasant, worthwhile, etc etc etc, thing to do.

To repeat myself, what are you getting out of this?
I enjoy talking with the people I enjoy talking with in this thread.

Birdman, Ianaww, filthy I wish would interact more with me because we agree on more than he thinks I think. (And a bunch of others too)

I enjoyed Monkey honestly because monkey has things he can teach me. I wish he came back because who can talk about markets and economies here?

So I have my reasons. We don't always discuss polarizing and inflammatory conspiracies but I'm not going to shy away from it either.
02-15-2018 , 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Because I have seen enough of the other sandy hook evidence to convince me that we are being lied to.

There is a preponderance of evidence there. Enough that people have made numerous hours long videos on the subject.

*also because I have dealt with snopes before.
Videos that have been debunked many times over. But you have no interest in considering the evidence that disagrees with you.

You're not some truth seeker, you're just looking for anything to support your own hateful views while ignoring anything that contradicts you.
02-15-2018 , 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
I remain interested in seeing you engage with the evidence that doesn't agree with you.
There’s no coherent conspiracy theory to disagree with - they’re always a mishmash of internally inconsistent points that don’t agree with themselves, let alone cope with counter evidence. But this makes it easy to cope with challenge because they’re so hydra headed and nonsensical. They cope by denial, by the fact that they can always point to some element of the smorgasbord of explanations that cohere (ignoring the rest that doesn’t).
02-15-2018 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
Videos that have been debunked many times over. But you have no interest in considering the evidence that disagrees with you.

You're not some truth seeker, you're just looking for anything to support your own hateful views while ignoring anything that contradicts you.
What makes my views hateful since we are doing this again..
02-15-2018 , 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What makes my views hateful since we are doing this again..
Accusing grieving parents of lying, being actors, or whatever other ****, is disgusting and hateful as ****. You are directly encouraging, and implicitly supporting, this kind of vile behaviour.
02-15-2018 , 03:35 PM
But you understand that if they were actors then they wouldn't be grieving parents, right?
02-15-2018 , 03:36 PM
Luckbox,

Now that it's clear that Bloo still wants that Sandy Hook discussion, how about you agree not to bring up, suggest, or otherwise post about any other conspiracy theories, including those related to current events, until you've hashed out that one to the point that Bloo feels the conversation is finished.

Would everyone consider that fair?
02-15-2018 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
But you understand that if they were actors then they wouldn't be grieving parents, right?
They aren't though, and you are a disgusting person for supporting what had happened to them.
02-15-2018 , 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by soah
Luckbox,

Now that it's clear that Bloo still wants that Sandy Hook discussion, how about you agree not to bring up, suggest, or otherwise post about any other conspiracy theories, including those related to current events, until you've hashed out that one to the point that Bloo feels the conversation is finished.

Would everyone consider that fair?
yes

let's see him actually consider the evidence

if he tries to back out with 'well everything snopes says is lies, I don't need to prove it' then stop him bringing up this unfounded bull**** again
02-15-2018 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by soah
Luckbox,

Now that it's clear that Bloo still wants that Sandy Hook discussion, how about you agree not to bring up, suggest, or otherwise post about any other conspiracy theories, including those related to current events, until you've hashed out that one to the point that Bloo feels the conversation is finished.

Would everyone consider that fair?
I would still very much would like to be allowed to continue to post news articles and videos about anything related to the current event while it is temporal.

I do not need to make any explicit arguments with anything but I want to be able to still post about current events.
02-15-2018 , 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I would still very much like to be allowed to continue to post news articles and videos about anything related to the current event while it is temporal.

I do not need to make any explicit arguments with anything but I want to be able to still post about current events.
no

you don't get to post bull**** and go 'oh I'm just posting this for discussion' if you're uninterested in engaging with anyone with another point of view
02-15-2018 , 03:41 PM
I'll hear what soah thinks.
02-15-2018 , 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
no

you don't get to post bull**** and go 'oh I'm just posting this for discussion' if you're uninterested in engaging with anyone with another point of view
I'm not uninterested in engaging.

Where have I shown that?
02-15-2018 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm not uninterested in engaging.

Where have I shown that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I didn't want to deal with it I won't lie. I barely even looked at it.
.
02-15-2018 , 03:43 PM
And nothing that I have posted about anything related to the current event has been bull****
02-15-2018 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
And nothing that I have posted about anything related to the current event has been bull****
every single person ITT disagrees
02-15-2018 , 03:44 PM
actually filthy's probably a wild card

      
m