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04-25-2019 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Personally I hope that you're right that Buttigieg is the primary recipient but I frankly doubt that Buttigieg is going to be able to raise his profile enough.

Beto is going to be a sideshow.

Whatever initial momentum Harris had seems to be stalled. I'm not up to date on her recent campaign efforts but she's seemed pretty invisible to me.
Buttigieg is already polling at or near 10%. He's raising his profile just fine.

Beto is probably done for, but it's because Buttigieg is stealing all of his spotlight right now.

I don't think Harris is finished quite yet, though many do.
04-26-2019 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Buttigieg is already polling at or near 10%. He's raising his profile just fine.
Let's assume you're right and that he doesn't stall out once the novelty of having the mayor of a medium sized midwestern city who happens to be gay be a viable candidate fades. The next question is will he appeal to enough of the constituencies that are likely to support a "centrist"? Is there a way he can overcome Biden's record and ties with groups like organized labor?
04-26-2019 , 09:40 AM
if the manchurian candidate were a real life thing, buttiguig would probably be how they'd do it

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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Beto is probably done for, but it's because Buttigieg is stealing all of his spotlight right now.
is there anything beto does/is that buttiguig doesn't do better? seems like beto *should* be getting about 0% of the vote
04-26-2019 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
if the manchurian candidate were a real life thing, buttiguig would probably be how they'd do it

Rhodes scholar + naval intelligence + tons of media support = bad news.

(Although the media support stuff is tricky post Trump)
04-26-2019 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
is there anything beto does/is that buttiguig doesn't do better? seems like beto *should* be getting about 0% of the vote
He's significantly taller, which some people seem to think is important.

Other than that, can't think of anything.
04-26-2019 , 10:16 AM
what is actually even being discussed itt right now?
04-26-2019 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Myrologue
However, didn't the USSR starve Ukraine for like 4 years in the 1930s?
no
04-26-2019 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Interesting that you chose to play the race card here, especially given that, afaiu, communist countries didn't have significant black populations to begin with, so of course they didn't lock people up for being black.
"play the race card"

what are you talking about? You are the smarmiest poster of all time. You literally project every dumb thing you do onto other people. You love to accuse other people of whataboutism when you do it constantly. In fact, you will literally do it in a conversation to move the goal posts and then accuse the other person of doing exactly what you did. I posted something about the United States and your responses was "bUt WhAt AbOuT cOmMuNiSt CoUnTrIeS?" And then accused me of "playing the race card" when that is literally what the discussion was about--the fact that the US is white supremacist.

Why are you even trying to defend that? Anyone with common sense knows it is true. Unless you happen to just be a white supremacist?
04-26-2019 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Biggest problem (IMO) with Bernie/Biden is that they are old as ****. We don’t want the risk of another POTUS with senile dementia.
This is some WOAT analysis.
04-26-2019 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
what is actually even being discussed itt right now?
We've all agreed on the basics -- the USA#1 is evil, capitalism is everything-ist and should be consigned to the dustbin of history, imperialism is responsible for all the wrongs suffered by the second and third world, the major political parties are identical, a sham and fascist to boot, and everything would be better if we just put filthy in charge.

Since there isn't anything much left to discuss we're just engaging in idle chitchat and speculation about which evil protofascist future mass murderer might emerge as a viable challenger to Grandpa Bernie and Creepy Uncle Joe.
04-26-2019 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
You literally project every dumb thing you do onto other people.
Freud (and remember all conspiracists are Freudians*) says that we love to find faults in others that we see in ourselves.

It's actually the definition of projection.
*or Jungians (but those guys are far enough out there that they've stopped caring about politics)

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 04-26-2019 at 10:37 AM.
04-26-2019 , 10:33 AM


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...tory-explained

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Lucy Flores isn’t alone. Joe Biden has a long history of touching women inappropriately.
"mY bIgGeSt PrObLeM wItH jOe BiDeN iS hIs AgE!"
04-26-2019 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Freud (and remember all conspiracists are Freudians*) says that we love to find faults in others that we see in ourselves.

It's actually the definition of projection.
*or Jungians
Just so you know, a "conspiracist" isn't a thing.
04-26-2019 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Just so you know, a "conspiracist" isn't a thing.
Is that something about materialism vs idealism?

(Because if it is I want to blow that dichotomy up)
04-26-2019 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
He's significantly taller, which some people seem to think is important.

Other than that, can't think of anything.
yeah - the only thing i can think of is that maybe some democrats have a dream and a prayer he can carry texas. and that his not being gay might swing some small, strange pocket of voters that i could totally see being critical in 2020.

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
This is some WOAT analysis.
i don't think he was saying that was each of their biggest problems (though it is mine with bernie)
04-26-2019 , 10:41 AM
No its just something about how it is stupid to pretend like "conspiricist" is some kind of coherent ideology. Or an ideology at all.
04-26-2019 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
No its just something about how it is stupid to pretend like "conspiricist" is some kind of coherent ideology. Or an ideology at all.
People who use inductive reasoning to determine their thoughts about the world.

Does that work better?
04-26-2019 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
i don't think he was saying that was each of their biggest problems (though it is mine with bernie)
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Biggest problem (IMO) with Bernie/Biden is that they are old as ****. We don’t want the risk of another POTUS with senile dementia.
wat
04-26-2019 , 10:45 AM
i don't want to put words in his mouth but i think his point was more "i don't want to elect an old guy" than "biden's worst problem is his age" regardless of what's written in text
04-26-2019 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
People who use inductive reasoning to determine their thoughts about the world.

Does that work better?
That does not really describe you if that is what you are trying to say
04-26-2019 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
That does not really describe you if that is what you are trying to say
I'm actually just going to let this go unless you want to elaborate.
04-26-2019 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
i don't want to put words in his mouth but i think his point was more "i don't want to elect an old guy" than "biden's worst problem is his age" regardless of what's written in text
I think if someone said "my biggest issue with Trump is that he is old" we would all agree that it is a stupid thing to say. So let's just agree that you and UD's premise (if you are reluctant to say it) is that Biden is otherwise "not that bad" if not for his age. Which is obviously a stupid premise to have.
04-26-2019 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm actually just going to let this go unless you want to elaborate.
labeling what you do as "inductive logic" is wrong, and I've explained it to you before
04-26-2019 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
labeling what you do as "inductive logic" is wrong, and I've explained it to you before
This isn't really an elaboration it's just a restatement of your thesis.
04-26-2019 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
This isn't really an elaboration it's just a restatement of your thesis.
something you are an expert at when it comes to talking about politics

      
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