I guess for stock market a more general statement would be if your perception of things are going well you stay with what you got and if not you tend towards change.

Feel like failed state rhetoric more common recently.

"identity politics" seems more inherently right wing than supporting workers or gun rights or abortion.

The supporting workers meant I think it can be independent of left right dynamic not that it's thought of as a right wing thing.

Depends on what kind of difference you're looking for.

1967: Detroit 30% black, DPD 93% white with many recruits from the segregated south. Police raid on a blind pig kicks off the worst rioting in USA#1 between the Civil War and Rodney King.

2020: Detroit 85% black, DPD 63% black including leadership. George Floyd kicks off a number of days of protests but minimal property damage and few arrests.

Plenty of anti-police venom, though nothing close to Seattle or Portland and a decent amount of it (especially at early protests) coming from people who don't live in Detroit.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...tions/2320685/

2020 continues to deliver day after day

With regard to standing up for your rights I think it's harder even functionally than it seems. If I got stopped on the street and asked for ID I wouldn't be certain if legally I had to provide it or not. Then if I decline maybe I've done something illegal. Situations like that are more normal than it seems thinking about it abstractly, and that's not even factoring in that it's harder to think clearly in high pressure situations.

One time I think I said "I'll do it if you tell me I'm legally required". And that went poorly. And lots of places I think cops can lie anyway.

My favorite cop story is the time cop asked me 3 times if I had weapons in the car. After the third time I finally said "do you want to search the car or what?" He said yes and I said "well you don't have permission". Then he called for backup, they claimed they smelled marijuana (there was none), put me in handcuffs and searched the car anyways.
All for being pulled over for not coming to a complete stop. This was in Scottsdale but the Tempe police are bigger ****heads.

I feel like that's a reasonable anecdote that summarizes the situation.

It was literally 3 times in 90 seconds. The first time it was like 'yeah no problem'....no weapons here. Then he asked again....yeah still no weapons. Finally after the third time I lost my patience.
When they finally did search my car they found an ice pick-- which I used to break ice as I worked for an ice sculpting company and he said "I thought you said you had no weapons?". Like it was some sort of gotcha. I think they ended up taking it. At the end of it all there were 3 different Scottsdale police cars there, I was released from handcuffs which they put me in because I didn't feel like sitting on the curb in the exact position they wanted me to sit in, and given the opportunity to complain which I didn't bother with. And of course no ticket even for my bs traffic violation.

How's making cops respect rights compare to making a political parties culpable for terrible candidates?

Or is it just about guilting people into doing whatever you can justify?

I once had a cop point a gun at me while I was in my bedroom playing computer games.

That one guy was shot for playing video games a few days ago, so you were lucky.

I had a cop (mistakenly) come through a normally locked gate to my kitchen door where I was relatively unclothed and had to decide to open the door for him or "run away". And put on clothes.

It ways just an honest mistake on his part, though.

If a cop incorrectly tells you that you are legally required to do something, your compliance has been compelled and thus is not voluntary.

Self incrimination and warrantless searches generally turn upon voluntariness.

Just make it clear that you are complying "because you tell me that it's legally required".

The mechanics of inculpation are so different between these two that there is really no comparison.

Probably, but people do it a lot for things I would say have no real comparison.

I think it's as close as thinking standing up for your rights will have any negligible effect on black people not getting shot. They are just vague moral decisions with very distant hard to measure utilitarian outcomes.

Although some people say voting is more strategic than moral.

I don't really see how me refusing a search of my car helps a guy somewhere else in the jurisdiction not get shot by a cop.

The cops shoot with near immunity while being trained that their personal safety matters more than anything else on their shift. If you want to stop police violence, that's where you look.

Thinking laterally is just a way to apply vaguely consistent criteria. People can decide how important it is to themselves (or relevant).

Well this deserves some elaboration

Fortunately I have never had high blood pressure, but I feel like I do after reading these posts. This much impotent anger can NOT be good for me.

People can suck. People that seek out jobs where they get to carry a gun and use it to enforce their power over others tend to suck harder.

And this is an example of why it's all broken.

I was headed to this small county fair in Nebraska, and got pulled over in Wyoming. I had just printed new insurance, and it was under all our bags in the back seat. As the cop is walking up to my car I was reaching back under all the bags. I pull out the paper as he arrives.

He says, while laughing "You gotta be careful, that could have looked like you were pulling out a gun in some circumstances, hehehehe!" and let me go without a ticket.

not much of a story really

a few years ago when I was living in long beach, I was at home on a day I didn't have classes, playing a computer game with a headset on (the kind of gaming headset that covers your ears and has noise-cancelling). Some cops came by the house because the grandson of the couple I was renting a room from hadn't gone to school. When no one answered them at the door (which was open), they let themselves in.

I never felt like I was in danger of being shot or anything but there was a strong sense of this shouldn't ever happen.

You can accurately translate "in some circumstances" to "if you were black", right?

I'd place your story a distant third to sun and luck at this point.

That doesn't at all explain why they pulled a gun on you though.
I guess because the door was open and they got a call and didn't know what was up. You could have probably easily been shot though it sounds like.