soah, are you still in usa? just wondering what life is like in whichever south american country you might be in

Actually no I don't do that.

I'd add there is a belief which helps white people justify racism: the idea that we have equality, or that things are getting better (so just wait). There is a mountain of evidence which shows this is a false. We have extreme inequality. It's not getting better.

I don’t remember all the specifics, but they did a poll of white people back in the early 1960s. And some disturbing majority of them (i think it was like 75% or something) believed, in 1960, that black people had an equal opportunity in education, housing, and jobs that white people did.

In 1960.

prior to the civil rights act

And i’m sure back then there were tons of concern trolls like mets who would be like “sure I am against black people getting lynched, but protesting getting lynched is taking a bit far”

That’s gross

yes

No need to really get into this—but this is definitely not right

It's a pretty horrible precedent--and I'm sure it's a precedent that's already been set and Birdman probably knows better than me, but it isn't something that we want to get used to.

Its worst in relation to how things were 100 years ago? 50? 20? 10? Are you talking about racial inequality or income inequality. I think a lot of the issues is class based, rather than race based. That people in power like to frame it as black vs white, because poor vs rich isn't as compelling to people on the outside.

maybe we should abolish the government completely..

what i find weird is people who hate the government/law enforcement/cops etc, want to make more laws/rules/regulation which gives the government more control and power to be evil

also chips, do you support these riots that are leading to deaths? or are you just supporting peaceful protests at this point? What do you feel like the riots are trying to achieve/should be trying to achieve? abolishing the police department? charging the other 3 officers?

at what point would you feel like systemic racism has decreased or has gone away? if we go 1 year without a cop murdering anyone, would you start to feel like there is hope?

I love this argument from the right, as if they care about that issue either.

Please, let me know of the Republican policies that address the growing rich/poor divide in this country.

Don't worry, those tax breaks are going to trickle down any decade now.

-J. Sakai

Support policies that keep Black people poor.

Wash your hands saying it's simply the fact they are poor that's the problem. Nothing to do with race!

I'm independent, not right wing... Not saying I even care about any issue, just giving my view..

I lived some years in my chlldhood in real poverty. i dont want poor kids to go through what i have, but id rather donate directly to charities, than expect the government (you guys think is evil) to solve the problems


Never saw anyone answer if a black person supports tax cuts are they racist?

is opposing tax cuts, anti-semitic?

LOL come on.

why do you guys let VMF troll you?

I have him blocked, I blocked him awhile ago when he went off on me in a really stupid way. He's clearly either an idiot or a complete troll, either way not worth reading his posts.

Was just adding to eyeboogers post.

fair enough

Are you aware of the recent research into income mobility by race in the USA? Short version - looking at what percentile income parents have vs their children, consistently across all income percentiles, black men will earn about 12 percentiles lower than white men from same income parents.
Black men who grew up poor earn less than white men who grew up poor.
Black men who grew up rich earn less than white men who grew up rich.
Black men who grew up middle class earn less than white men who grep up middle class.

It's not just class based. There is a racial component.
How that plays out it going to be a variety of complex issues - but this is why I think we need to pay attention to the racial inequities as well as the class inequities.

I agree with what you are saying. My point is more about there is a lot of poor people.. It is not just poor black people. Making this less about race and more about income inequality I think is good for a variety of reasons. One of the most important to me, is seeing less racial tension. When you frame the debate, like a lot of people have been on the media or here sometimes, as black people are oppressed/white privilege etc, it makes a whole class of poor white people feel bad. Rather than addressing the issue in the first place, it leads to a lot of feel bad arguments.

Maybe black people know that money isn't everything?
Capitalists trying to put everyone to work...

I guess where I see the problems in our country, pretty much all of them, from school shootings to looting to bad policing, is bad parenting, or lack of parenting/bad school education systems. That is where I would target to fix the problem is the school system.

I feel like schools right now are just day cares and it really doesn't put our children is the best place to succeed in any ways.