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12-24-2014 , 05:36 PM

#2276

DiggertheDog

Pan Troglodytes

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 57,791

I think Hoya was correct to let them off.

If I was green I think I would have thrown a ban in anyway.

12-24-2014 , 05:38 PM

#2277

kioshk

Nixonian

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 93,141

I think he gave them points if I read correctly.

12-24-2014 , 05:40 PM

#2278

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

They're both getting infraction bombs.

12-24-2014 , 05:40 PM

#2279

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

meh i was expecting something worse than threatening social securities on him

much ado about nothing

batm is an incredibly obvious oxygen thief and obviously would never have any idea how to put together a ww game so not sure how dwetz has gotten so furious

12-24-2014 , 05:40 PM

#2280

ReddBoiler

self-banned

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 35,507

Is hoya a serious poster or elite troll

12-24-2014 , 05:41 PM

#2281

DiggertheDog

Pan Troglodytes

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 57,791

Yeah I was just saying if I was the house nemesis - I would act more reflexively and less considered.

Ban em then justify it then reduce the sentence if the posse starts to dissipate.

12-24-2014 , 05:42 PM

#2282

PlzBeALevel

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hoaya is probably not self-aware enough to be an elite troll so I would lean towards the former

12-24-2014 , 05:43 PM

#2283

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Am I really the house nemesis? I'm trying to do a good job here.

12-24-2014 , 05:45 PM

#2284

Gamer Dude

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 23,474

so is it just me or did WN and Hoya switch accounts for the holidays ?

12-24-2014 , 05:45 PM

#2285

kokiri

ffermwr moch

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 52,228

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

I'm holding 1100 in Poggers money atm. I dare you to ban me

If I were mod, literally zero chance I could refrain from pulling the trigger.

12-24-2014 , 05:46 PM

#2286

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

Ruling seems pretty poor from the little that I understand anyway. ATM puts together a game designed (probably not deliberately, I get it) to troll participants and waste their time and when he has successfully done this he ramps up the trolling even more by mocking those who fell for it. The complete lack of remorse on offer would mean I would definitely never let him run another game at the very least, very similar to officedog (who hoaya mentioned) in this regard who continually ran games which wasted people's time and was never the least bit apologetic. She was allowed way too long of a leash and I guess we're not beyond that.

12-24-2014 , 05:47 PM

#2287

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Am I really the house nemesis? I'm trying to do a good job here.

I admired greatly how thought-out and explanatory your post was. People can disagree and that's fine.

Let's have a beer sometime.

12-24-2014 , 05:48 PM

#2288

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,508

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Am I really the house nemesis? I'm trying to do a good job here.

You're doing well man, f the haters. A+ lawyering

12-24-2014 , 05:48 PM

#2289

PlzBeALevel

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

I don't even play ww anymore so everyone feel free to ignore me completely if you weren't already. I'm just bored.

12-24-2014 , 05:48 PM

#2290

well named

poorly undertitled

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 78,085

Lol hoya

12-24-2014 , 05:49 PM

#2291

LKJ

Smugly Contemptuous

Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 93,732

I like the time that officedog suggested that it could be a good idea to run a game where players could die and enter DVC and then be resurrected back into the game.

12-24-2014 , 05:50 PM

#2292

ReddBoiler

self-banned

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 35,507

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel

I like the officedog/too long of a leash pun u snuck in

12-24-2014 , 05:50 PM

#2293

DiggertheDog

Pan Troglodytes

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 57,791

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Am I really the house nemesis? I'm trying to do a good job here.

1. A source of harm or ruin: Uncritical trust is my nemesis.

2. Retributive justice in its execution or outcome: To follow the proposed course of action is to invite nemesis.

3. An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome.

4. One that inflicts retribution or vengeance.

5. Nemesis Greek Mythology The goddess of retributive justice or vengeance.

You're the lawyer - what sense of the word was I using? Or was I being deliberately ambigious?

12-24-2014 , 05:50 PM

#2294

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Fair critique. People do enjoy his games, though, which are numerous and usually enjoyable and enthusiastic, which is good for "us." This was a disaster and an inconsiderate and asinine one, which will not happen again unless he wants the snap perma. I think that's a good balance.

12-24-2014 , 05:51 PM

#2295

PlzBeALevel

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I'm sure you're right Hoaya. Finger on the pulse.

12-24-2014 , 05:53 PM

#2296

DiggertheDog

Pan Troglodytes

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 57,791

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Am I really the house nemesis? I'm trying to do a good job here.

Spoiler:

12-24-2014 , 05:57 PM

#2297

bright_sensor

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,627

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddBoiler

Is hoya a serious poster or elite troll

what's the difference?

12-24-2014 , 06:04 PM

#2298

baudib1

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 21,658

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKJ

I like the time that officedog suggested that it could be a good idea to run a game where players could die and enter DVC and then be resurrected back into the game.

I played in a game like this. It was fun.

12-24-2014 , 06:13 PM

#2299

TheBrokenATM!

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 32,727

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Time keeps getting away from me for family stuff. I'm not inclined to ban either of you even though you both totally deserve it, and know that, and posted that way ON PURPOSE as a rhetorical tool to further express your madness at each other. Which is annoying because now I'm pretty much giving you a pass about breaking forum rules on purpose. I'm within my rights to do all sorts of ban / infraction / whatever.
Ban us both.
Just understand he was coming at me and no one did anything, he kept getting more frustrated when I:
Ask a bunch of people to join my game just to reach the 21 player mark.
I didn't beg. I said join my game.
Him: I can't do two nights.
Me: oh just play don't worry, that's just 2 people get lynch not two nights.
Him: alright u convince me I'm in but I won't pay a lot of attention to the game.
BATM: I don't care about your games, really. What I do care about is you actively recruiting people into a WW game that was, by even a charitable interpretation, broken and dumb. I also have a large problem with you modding the game in a way that made you an active participant in the game, influencing decisions and outcomes beyond the available information.
I don't care about your opinion. Your modding is broken and dumb. How did I participated in the game? How did I influence someone decision? You have no idea what you are talking about.
If you want to run games with that much interference or "AIDS," you need to advertise them as a BATM game that is not actually WW. It just shares elements.
Again, do your work before being a judge without full knowledge. You should know this right? I advertise all my game as AIDS. This game was a WW game. I didn't break it. I challenge people to think and figure it out. That's what villagers do all games. Here both teams had to figure it out. Will post more about this.
As a WW game, that game was broken and a waste of time for anyone who really was looking for a WW game. The fact that you recruited people - you sent me the PM as well - to play WW in that thread is evidence that you knew you were tricking people and trolling them. The reaction is not surprising to me, because after the first day I would've been pissed too.
It was not a waste of time. Some people enjoyed it and they might not be vocal here. I had people ask to join mid game too so obv they were interested. There were no games running and everyone could just ignore a pm or message I sent. Or said no. I don't understand why you made the decision that I was trolling and that I purposely sabotage the game and people time. I get you agree with Dwetzel and I'm just a psychopath who design a game to waste people time before the holidays? I will expect an apology for this. You as a mod should know better than insult and degrade people in public when you are so wrong and have no proof, evidence or motive. Nada
What makes you think I was tricking people and trolling them?
The reaction is not surprising? So Dwetzel being the only one calling me a piece of **** and going off, mentioning my kids or my mental state is all cool with you.?
I'm reminded of a vanilla game that office dog ran where the role PMs were so incompetent that no one knew they were a wolf, and chaos ensued. This is a lot like that.

You modded very badly and should acknowledge that, which you have in your way sort of done.
I didn't mod badly, I under estimated the intelligence in POG. I was sure people will enjoy being challenged. This was a game almost u winnable by wolves. I realized after they outed themselves that I should have told them n0 they were all a team.
In the future, don't run abysmal games and call them werewolf and waste everyone's time. If you ever do, you'll be banned from modding.
I'm done. My games won't run here. You welcome

With regard to your posts in this thread, you continually insist on making unacceptable personal attacks in a routine, grating, arrogant and immature manner. And then you whine about other people being mean to you. I don't care who said what first, you cannot do that. I know you know this, because I communicate this to you via PM on a regular basis, and you still do it.
Thanks for making me a focus on this like he didn't start in my game to just berate me and Attack me in ways that people just don't do. I had my moments but in the heat of a WW game and I'm never serious. This guy made it very obvious he was serious and went over board. as a man I defended myself because I know you guys wouldn't do anything. As a matter fact and by reading your post its obv you only took care of this because I flipped too. And I'm being blamed here.
I'm immature, and all the other horrible things you say but Dwetzel is not? Lol
Instead of banning you, I will shortly be hitting you with a significant infraction. It will last a year. You will fix this or you will again be infracted, and that will almost certainly be a significant ban.
Fine. Accepted. Happy holidays
DWETZEL: I understand your frustration. I do NOT understand the magnitude of it. At some point you must have realized you had blown up, probably around the part where you started bringing up his child. That's bad, dude. No matter how ****ty his game, you don't know him or his family and that's cruel.
Let's see how hoya is now nice to the real abuser here.
I understand... and yes bringing up kids is horrible.
I've politely asked you tone this part of your repertoire down, and I'm sure you mostly try. But your comments in here are beyond the pale, on purpose, and you know that.

I can easily imagine myself getting furious and saying awful stuff too, and I acknowledge that me working on this spat is pretty questionable given my history in the "try hard / game integrity" camp vs. the "lol / you're too serious" camp. But I think you knew what you were doing and knew I had, because I can relate, tried to extend you a lot of rope.

You too are going to get a significant infraction. I anticipate this barely mattering to you, because you'll control yourself. But if you don't, it'll be your decision.
This is not a big deal because Dwetzel unlike BATM will behave.... Lol. Again siding with Dwetzel. Also he doesn't get a year infraction. Just significant and private.
BOTH OF YOU: I like having both of you here. I don't want either of you gone, at all.

I also do not appreciate you trying to force me to take action against each other. I expect you to help maintain this community, and that's gonna mean tolerating each other's existence in it.
I never forced u. I didn't cry and say I'll wuit if you didn't take care of it. I was gonna defend myself that all.
I think you both went scorched earth and tried to be martyrs. I'm taking that away from you by not banning you.

The infractions last a year. I hope you won't get yourselves banned by forgetting or ignoring that you've been unmistakably warned that your posting cannot be openly hostile in the way this thread became.

Nvm I'm guessing he gets a year too? Ok fair.

so all in all. I'm the bad guy here. Everyone can pick on BATM and says or ribose things but I defend myself after offering the guy a way out of my games which he declined.
I even apologized more than once for what he called waste of his time. Then he came in here to flip out and go over board in a way to force me to defend myself. He even called it a challenge or thunder dome. I'm not a loser, I fight hard and play to win. He challenge me in public and insulted myself and family/kids.

hoya you failed here. I hope you know that. I know you didn't want to bother Dwetzel and took his side. You ****ed up.
Let's make this private if you want. You know my PM, Email and skype.

I really hope your apology is sincere and I'm just wondering even what drove you to insult me, degrade me and join the harassment or even make me the bad guy here just to be part of the "majority"
I know it's hard to stand up for what it's right. It's ok if you don't do that. But don't call yourself a MOD.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year

-Ricky

12-24-2014 , 06:17 PM

#2300

TheBrokenATM!

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 32,727

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel

I don't even play ww anymore so everyone feel free to ignore me completely if you weren't already. I'm just bored.

You do not play WW. You are a waste of oxygen in a subforum that thrives on participating.

The game was not a troll. They didn't read between the lines.
I never said you are a wolf!
There were no ****ingg wolves or villagers in my game. Get it correct.

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