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03-24-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
If both wagons are wolves, you get no credit for voting off wagon. That's correct.

We don't know both wagons were wolves, do we?



If neither wagon is a wolf, you get no credit for voting off wagon.

If only one wagon is a wolf, you get no credit for voting off wagon.
Exactly so why do I move off dice unless I don't believe he is wolf? And let purported wolf bro get lynched? That makes little sense
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03-24-2017 , 01:02 PM
This is why this whole thing is confusing to me...either Donat3llo has a crazy # of sub-optimal thoughts & theories if he's a villager, or he's a wolf. There's no in between.

1) Voting is unrelated to group think. Group think occurs if everyone just sheeps reads off a couple people. Voting is for optimization. If you're a villager, you optimize your vote by voting for someone who might get lynched who you think has the highest chance of being a wolf.

2) Mass quoting one person's posts to analyze them is literally taking them all out of context. Which is what you accused me of doing. When I literally used the entire context.

3) Trying to take credit for things that happen 97% of the time is silly.
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03-24-2017 , 01:04 PM
I don't claim to be good at this game. But I don't think everything I think or do is suboptimal and you're all starting to make me feel kinda shytty, so I dunno.
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03-24-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
thediceman,

can you just lay out reads in one post with some raisins

it could go a long way to saving your life cause the urge is rising at a rapid rate to just aggressively call for your lynch this evening
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Originally Posted by thediceman
I have been giving reads and reasons throughout the day, if you want them they are there. If you want an excuse to vote me then pretend they don't exist. If you do that though I will be forced to waste my time going back and quoting them and making you look silly.

I would prefer not to do your work for you though.
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Originally Posted by younguns87
So it should be easy for you to just lay them out in a nice pretty list. maybe add some color too. Im a sucker for some color
random interaction that i found between dice and young on EOD1 that I think makes dice look a little bit more villa
maybe not a lot, but a little bit
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03-24-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
I disagree, going along with the crowd is dangerous and promotes group think. This is such a silly assertion by the POG community
if you know the wagons are the wagons then voting off wagon has no merit or value as a villa.
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03-24-2017 , 01:11 PM
monte has been trying to buffalo my lynch and i've yet to actually see a case, which he can't make because i'm not a wolf. also, his mechanical BS is BS. THAT'S NOT HOW YOU FIND WOLVES. i can't believe he's trying to clear himself on not having used a power that might deny someone who might be a wolf 100 sickles.
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03-24-2017 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Jm3 can I get a new chart please?
With current %'s.
I kind of dropped the % spreadsheet d2...it seemed unproductive & like busy work for the sake of busy work. I think it was stopping me from thinking about the whole game holistically & how different pieces might fit together.

I could do one in a bit, though.

This is where I was at yesterday (with the bold headings removed because lol me)

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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Here's a tiered list of where I'm at...

Not a wolf
JMurder3

Don't really see it in most tinfoil scenarios:
NeedMoreManasi
Reaperlicious

Can see it, but only tinfoil-style:
CalledDownLight
Montecore

Can see it, but not the most likely scenario:
iamnotawerewolf
Donat3llo
TheBrokenATM!
thediceman

POE
iraisetoomuch
iversonian
Crossnerd
This is where I'm at today...

Not a wolf
JMurder3

Don't really see it in most tinfoil scenarios:
NeedMoreManasi
Reaperlicious

Can see it, but only tinfoil-style:
CalledDownLight
Montecore

Can see it, but not the most likely scenario:
iamnotawerewolf
iraisetoomuch
thediceman

POE
Donat3llo
iversonian
TheBrokenATM!

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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
I don't claim to be good at this game. But I don't think everything I think or do is suboptimal and you're all starting to make me feel kinda shytty, so I dunno.
We all have sub-optimal opinions & notions. It's important to re-evaluate them & learn, though. & that doesn't mean backing off verbally, it means thinking about what people are saying & seeing if there's logic to it & that maybe there's something you're missing.
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03-24-2017 , 01:12 PM
Oops, meant to remove Reaper from current list (RIP :/)
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03-24-2017 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Still can't tell between Xkf and JP for wolfiness from last game to this game. I havent seen their villa game though.

Monte seems less powerwolfy, so maybe villa? will probs resolve itself

Manasi seems somewhat less wolfy and more pure

Knights seems somewhat similar to last game, was reasonably helpful as a wolf but was a dog with a bone with some of his reads which I think looked forced. Not much of that this game yet

Those are my reads on my former wolf bros this game
@ 8:17

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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Almost no logical reasoning for this, just IME it's never a wolf on d1 when it's a somewhat stagnant wagon.
@ 8:18

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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
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Originally Posted by jepg
Why not Dice?

In your ISO the only thing you seem to say on him is that he is the same as last time. Personally I felt he was very different in the Batman game when looking through it. What are the similarities in your eyes?
Since im having trouble expressing it in words im assuming it's a tone thing that I'm picking up on. Seems similar to last game, and seemed to be ok with Monte's joke post about wagoning him to clear himself.
@ 8:24

So your statement that you spent "20+minutes" compiling the MQ up to 8:36 is just a lie.


also:

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Originally Posted by jepg
Why not Dice?

In your ISO the only thing you seem to say on him is that he is the same as last time. Personally I felt he was very different in the Batman game when looking through it. What are the similarities in your eyes?
you had already mq'd dice?
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03-24-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
it appears that I'm not going to be able to assuage your concerns any other way beyond flipping wolf.
awk
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03-24-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
wait til you guys have ****ing 40% shots or at least 32% ones please. Also, iversonian has spent boatloads of time in the ministry (someone please double check his moves) which is why I wanted to lynch him since he might have multiple days worth of health insurance.
nope
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03-24-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
hi mansai

The whole you/knights thing is a little troubling to me. He claims to read you really well and you tend to agree. He calls you a wolf and I thought your initial reaction of suggesting he was a wolf was appropriate. Now you're wondering how long it'll take him to come around? Seems like you know he's a villager

comments?
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
can we talk about the mansai knights thing for a minute please.

Last game: knights came out and hard defended her and they were w/w. A big deal was made out of the fact that they were unlikely to be w/w with a hard defence like this (mostly by me admittedly). I was also convinced that knights could read mansai as well as he claimed he could (Adam suggested the same)

Now knights comes out and straight up calls mansai a wolf. I don't think that he's mistaken which means there's a wolf among them. I think it's more likely mansai than knights because of her response "I wonder when knights will come around on me" (speaking to him like she knows he's a villager)

thoughts?
what are the odds that Xander, knights, and Mansai all have this sort of interaction as w/w/w?
Pretty small. This adds to my manasi villa currnet opinion.
That and manasai shooting nights obv.


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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I also think that ivers and AIB are really quite wolfy

not many posts and not much time spent in the thread but they both found the time to jump on my wagon pretty much right away and post nothing villa whatsoever

xkf seeming much more villa now the red mist has descended. Happy to put this behind us and lynch AIB
So AiB was a villa, and Xkf was a villa.
Rule of 3 here spews ivers a wolf?

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
so you were just voting me for lolz?

also I completely disagree with this read.
talking to Ivers.

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Villa reads

reaper
xander
xkf
monte
youngguns


JM3
donatello


wolfy

ianaww

IRTM

iverson
AIB

Extra Stuff

ChrisV could be a wolf based on zero posting (trusting monte on this one)
unless Knights changes his mind on Manasai I like the chances of one wolf being here
johnny should be kept around for the chartz
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
you might know more words than me but you're still dodging the issue.

pretty please, with sugar on top, tell me what, specifically, you find wolfy about reaper. This game is about finding wolves and sharing your findings with others so that said wolves can get lynched.
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
what's the deal with Monte? He's my clearest villa aorn
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
are you going to deflect my simple question today with obtuse words or just straight up ignore it.

I remember that you didn't give me an answer yesterday even though I asked about 4 time.

I also remember that you wolf read reaper yesterday and they whole argument you had with me was about why I thought he was villa and you thought he was a wolf and why. You never told me why and you've suddenly changed your opinion on him and he's one of your top 3 villagers now.

3 simple questions:

Why do you think I'm a wolf?
Why did you think reaper was a wolf yesterday?
What has changed to make him one of your top 3 villagers today?
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
so the deflection route

noted

iversonian
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I could happily kill:

ivers
johnny
irtm

right about now.

On the no shat list for me would be:

monte
reaper
xkf
JM3
yg
ChrisV

Everyone else is debatable or has been forgotten about
some other commentary from Xander. basically call of these are talking to/about ivers. He spend a bit more time talking to/about him than most other people that I saw

I think this gives a pretty strong lean for ivers being a wolf here based on weak interactions and weak pushes at times when he won't really get lynched.
Also, obv the #lolruleof3 suggests that ivers is a wolf from Xander.
But obv #levels and all that.
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03-24-2017 , 01:14 PM
iversonian, wtf was with your d3 performance? I want it explained in every single detail that you're capable of because aside from YG's entire game it was the single wolfiest day anyone has put together without being peeked.
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03-24-2017 , 01:14 PM
so the angel is basically the only reason why we're not claiming right? and he's kinda quacking like a wolf if you ask me. mass claimaments?
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03-24-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
[1]AiB with 5 votes 52m away from EOD, which is almost never a wolf.

[2]That being said, AiB has not provided much clearance (that I have seen, please to be linking if i missed it), and doesn't seem too worried. What do we make of this? There isn't much emotion for a villa looking to be saved.

[3]Either way, I'm inclined to move away from this as the village choice as it seems almost too easy to be a wolf. There are better choices: CDL, Well Named, JP...
[2] is a soft push
[1] plus [2] is hedging
[3] the phrase "as the village choice" is weird
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03-24-2017 , 01:16 PM
I feel like I've given a reasonable excuse for every misstep, perhaps I've made too many for me to get out of the POE, but I dont feel I make this mistakes with wolf chat to guide me (think back to gotham, I didn't make any real mistakes). So I dunno

I'mma reread for the wolves tho
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03-24-2017 , 01:17 PM
I'm sort of coming around to the ivers is a wolf camp.
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03-24-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
iversonian, wtf was with your d3 performance? I want it explained in every single detail that you're capable of because aside from YG's entire game it was the single wolfiest day anyone has put together without being peeked.
i don't even remember what i did that day, other than that we lynched a peeked wolf. i do remember your hammed reaction to the claim, though, and you getting mad that i actually knew how to use logic.
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03-24-2017 , 01:18 PM
I see HIVersonian is here

Excited to see some #werk
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03-24-2017 , 01:18 PM
But monte is oddly quiet today, so I'm not really sure how I feel about that.
Going to have see how he does towards the end of the day.
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03-24-2017 , 01:18 PM
also donnie try being useful today pls.
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03-24-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Exactly so why do I move off dice unless I don't believe he is wolf? And let purported wolf bro get lynched? That makes little sense
first, you weren't on dice, so don't peddle that you "moved off"

second, I will have to strain my brain a bit to figure out why you wouldn't make a late day vote onto a villager when your wolf bro was hotly contested for the lynch

/s - saying it makes "little sense" is disingenuous
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03-24-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
I see HIVersonian is here

Excited to see some #werk
Nice of you to join us.

Can I get a best of / worst of for the current live players please?
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03-24-2017 , 01:20 PM
don't let monte win. reread his interactions with yg if you find yourself in endgame with him.
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03-24-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
I don't claim to be good at this game. But I don't think everything I think or do is suboptimal and you're all starting to make me feel kinda shytty, so I dunno.
and now the sympathy card
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