MOD NOTE

Here is the spreadsheet for your perusal. Everything should be basically right; let me know if you have any questions.

I did exercise mod discretion by making CDL a half-vig when he lost his mason pairing, instead of just a Poet (target's role is revealed upon CDL's death), as was originally planned. The kill-rate was just BRUTAL when every vig and backup vig were killed out of the gate like that.

Biggest thing I'd do if I ran the structure again would be to include a wolf poisoner as well as the villa poisoner.

Pretty happy it got to f5, even if it did take a million years to get there. Hopefully that means it wasn't ridiculously imbalanced. Balance was one of my biggest goals, following well named's (I think) comments in a recent thread about how mishmashes with no vanilla roles are basically impossible for wolf teams to win.

how many nights were there like 16?

also to MB:

i actually didn't lie about anything i had said there like you alluded to

i had just subbed in so i didnt know that the feelings were important plus i was real busy

i wasnt prompted to submit twice

and i thought crossnerd was utr for her and suspicious

so the only 'case' there was was that i'd visited crossnerd so meh. wasnt really a pleasant spot to sub in for


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but MB your unwavering crusade vs the wolves was very impressive

Shadow, I'm just happy I had prior meta with you and had seen you wolf before. The only thing that kept me from jumping on you a couple days when others were giving you heat.

Even if this went to tomorrow, I still might have had to reconsider, regardless of what I said I'd do.

Yeah, I couldn't have imagined Shadow being a wolf if I was a villa I don't think. He came into this game with 2 prior wolf games and ~125 posts and posted close to 700 times in this one. Assuming the other people in chat were right.

Yeah, to clear something up: If DB305 shields someone (warm glow) and someone else tries to target DB's target with a non-peek, non-kill action, they'll get the "you feel frustrated" message. That was the subject of a lot of discussion in the late game.

Amazing job by Monkey, Shadow, DB, and officedog, obviously -- all of you played stellar, especially Monkey. Thanks for staying in the game.

A ton of people played really well early also. I'll name more people later, but iversonian is actually the first one to come to mind.

One other thing I might do differently if I could would be to tweak ShadowZero's role description to say that he tells people he's a villager, not that he tells people his affiliation. That might have made it a little tougher to clear him.

Yeah, no worries. The mod obviously gave me a heart attack when he said to submit night actions at first. I would have felt worse than when I helped in getting TimeLady lynched if exec had flipped villa!

Oh, one other thing about the spreadsheet:

crackedquad's targets were supposed to get the message "you feel newsworthy." I plain forgot about that the first few nights, so I ended up trashing it.

Sorry gang, I thought I only made you feel all glowy. Didn't mean to frustrate anyone and had no clue that I had that ability.

hahahaha

wanted to troll for longer, but felt that would be mean

Oh yea, I dug up the wolfchat:

[2/22/2012 1:52:53 PM] exec 2p2: FKKKKK
[2/22/2012 1:52:53 PM] Daniel xxxxxxx: why is hoya tilting so badly?
[2/22/2012 1:52:55 PM] exec 2p2: TAO
[2/22/2012 1:52:59 PM] exec 2p2: wtf u doing
[2/22/2012 1:53:02 PM] Daniel xxxxxxx: (on page 50)
[2/22/2012 1:53:20 PM] exec 2p2: FKNG TAO OUTED HIMSELF WITH TMI
[2/22/2012 1:53:33 PM] tao1tao1tao1: there was a post about it
[2/22/2012 1:53:37 PM] exec 2p2: dkasjdklajsl/.s,ad./
[2/22/2012 1:53:43 PM] tao1tao1tao1: Im pretty sure
[2/22/2012 1:53:52 PM] tao1tao1tao1: if not, im screwed ~~
[2/22/2012 1:53:56 PM] derwipok: doubt it
[2/22/2012 1:54:01 PM] exec 2p2: mod gave us tht info to balance the game
[2/22/2012 1:54:08 PM] exec 2p2: so ther were no claimfests
[2/22/2012 1:54:22 PM] exec 2p2: sigh
[2/22/2012 1:54:35 PM] derwipok: you've probably outed yourself and took away our best cover if village isn't dumb
[2/22/2012 1:55:02 PM] derwipok: could probably pass it off as an honest mistake though

sorry to the 2 villas I killed. Especially sorry to telc who I killed when I should have killed JD.

I mean, it's the same thing, just the flipside. You weren't frustrating your targets; you were frustrating people trying to target your targets. It was basically a limited, targeted roleblock.

Still think your role should have been title "Village Idiot". Hey mofo's, I'm a damn villager!!! Believe!

It was also kinda frustrating that of the many lies in my claim, the parts I was suspected for weren't among them.

Oh, and Monkey Banana obviously the best villager by far. I feel a bit stupid now for doubting him until his awesome case on kcaw which pretty much single-handily turned my view on him around.

MOD NOTE

I think Willi is awesome. If it were up to me, he wouldn't be excluded from any future werewolf games just because he was having a bad day and got himself modkilled in this game. I don't think it was thaaaaat big of a deal, and I think people were giving him too hard a time about it. I hope people take into account his overall positive level of contribution to POG before making any decision to exclude him in the future. (And Willi, I hope we can see the bubbly, funny, random side of you as much as possible.)

what did tao do to out himself? I forget.

Ho-lee crap.

I left for a meeting having given up. Then I came home and passed out (being sick is hard). I came in here and saw jj was the last poster and was OMG IS IT OVER!!!

I'm so glad I was right about you, exec. You naughty boy.

Stated for a fact that there was no village watcher, when only wolves knew that to be the case.

Oooooooh! That was driving me nuts!

wow great game guys, huge props to everyone at f5, a ton of work was put in.

You were awesome exec, you definitely played great

Gad/Jim, thanks so much for modding, this must have been a monumental amount of work. So you deserve a ton of credit.

I'm sure there's other really interesting stuff, but I can't say I followed the game too closely after being killed n1

Oh, and sooted you call me a wolf for everything I think. Though to be fair I thought you were right about some of it.

Hope you have a better weekend than the week you had this week.